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Originally Posted by tomder55

Possibly ;but you didn't hear the Dems crying about it when they swept the Presidency and both houses of Congress in 2008 . Bet ya they claim there was no corporate money in that win.

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Including SCOTUS I guess that makes three non-representational branches. That's a pluralism of sorts

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Including SCOTUS I guess that makes three non-representational branches. That's a pluralism of sorts

Tut

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Yes short lived at best, not even long enough for BO to get his legislation through congress an empiric victory

Back on thread, have you noticed? Suddenly Greece is of little interest and the spotlight has shifted to Spain. How fickle is the media

Greek Newspapers

It's all Greek to me, things are far more interesting here what with the Prime Minister telling gays I'm not married why should you be, live in sin

Now that's honest, an unique. Bet the divorce lawyers are going NUTS!! Or bananas!

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Now thats honest, an unique. Bet the divorce lawyers are going NUTS!!! Or bananas!

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No but some say her comments are hurtfull. Divorce lawyers don't care they have plenty of business, you see it is all right to have rebellion against the establishment in some directions but not in others. One says I want to be married like the rest of you, the other says, marriage is the problem here we will just have the government step back out of marriage, after all I am not married and I see no problem.

I see a parallel with the Greeks and Europe, the Greeks said we want to be like the rest of you being able to borrow money cheaply and live the good life, while Europe said you must abide by the rules, rules we will make later. We don't live the good life and neither should you

The press is concentrating on the brush fires instead of the core problem in the Euro zone. So when they give money to Spanish banks their attention shifts to Italy ;at least until the Greek election .When the commies take over there ,that will be the end of the Greek relationship with the Euro.

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The press is concentrating on the brush fires instead of the core problem in the Euro zone. So when they give money to Spanish banks their attention shifts to Italy ;at least until the Greek election .When the commies take over there ,that will be the end of the Greek relationship with the Euro.

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What brush fires? Do you have some little fires in the back country or are you talking about those spanish banks that should be allowed to fail in the traditional way. I don't see commies taking over in Greece that might be a bridge too far, but I do see a big finger being extended in the direction of Europe. No if Germany were to send it's muslim immigrants (cheap labour) home and employ Greeks the problem would be over. The problem is structural and it needs a little structural adjustment and lateral thinking. A united Europe must do united Europe things

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what brush fires? Do you have some little fires in the back country or are you talking about those spanish banks that should be allowed to fail in the traditional way.

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of course. The Spain brush fire will flare again when they discover that saving the banks won't save the country. Italy's brush fire will flare when they formally reject Mario Monti's tough economic measures . The idiots in France just decided to lower the retirement age. That will eventually cause the French brush fire to flame again.. and so on...
They have not confronted the coming maelstrom .

Maelstrom, will that put out the brush fire? And let us not forget who lit these fires in the first place, that pyro is still loose in the world burning up more and more money. France is lowering the retirment age perhaps thinking this is a cure to unemployment, a recognition that some are not strong enough to work into their seventies.

We need a fresh approach to all of this and perhaps retiring a few politicians on both sides of the Atlantic will help cure ths northern hemisphere disease. The old thinking of free market and capitalist rorting of the sysytem must give way and the best way is forced retirment