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  • Jun 7, 2020, 04:28 PM
    tomder55
    I guess it is a waste of time to point out that disinfectants are used in vaccines that get injected into humans . No Trump did not say bleach . Yes he did say disinfectants . Thiomersal is an example. It is commonly used in flu vaccines . Ozone injections are also common as an alternative treatment ,
  • Jun 7, 2020, 04:52 PM
    talaniman
    Yes Tom it's a waste of time pointing that out, because everybody and his mama knows the dufus has no clue what he was talking about, and was just rifting what some expert was probably discussing. We all know how bad he wants some cure and for this pandemic to be over with so he can get back to his normal routine of playing politics.

    Bet he can't even spell thiomersal or say what it's really used for.
  • Jun 7, 2020, 05:08 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    because everybody and his mama knows the dufus has no clue what he was talking about, and was just rifting what some expert was probably discussing.
    There is someone who doesn't know what he's talking about, and his name starts with a "T", but it's not Trump.
  • Jun 7, 2020, 05:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There is someone who doesn't know what he's talking about, and his name starts with a "T", but it's not Trump.

    Hey, that's a mean thing to say to tomder! We sometimes (often?) disagree with him, but we still like him.
  • Jun 7, 2020, 05:23 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Hey, that's a mean thing to say to tomder! We sometimes (often?) disagree with him, but we still like him.

    It is no use correcting jl, he just runs off at the mouth, diatribe
  • Jun 7, 2020, 06:08 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Hey, that's a mean thing to say to tomder! We sometimes (often?) disagree with him, but we still like him.
    I must admit, that was a funny comeback. Well done, WG.

    I think my comment to Tal came across as mean. It was intended to be light-hearted, but that is hard to convey on a message board. My apologies.
  • Jun 7, 2020, 06:37 PM
    tomder55
    mine has a small t
  • Jun 7, 2020, 06:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    mine has a small t
    Rescued!!
  • Jun 7, 2020, 07:04 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    mine has a small t

    So does mine!!
  • Jun 7, 2020, 07:32 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    So does mine!!
    Crud!! Rescue proves to be ineffective.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 03:41 AM
    jlisenbe
    The cat is out of the bag now. If any of you really thought we had a national news media that was concerned with presenting all sides of an argument and allowing us to think for ourselves, then think again.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/new-...-alex-berenson
  • Jun 8, 2020, 04:38 AM
    talaniman
    You might not like the decisions of the corporation, but what does that have to do with one thinking for themselves unless that's your only source of the truth. Don't like it don't buy it.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 04:42 AM
    jlisenbe
    The NYT is not just another newspaper. It's the largest paper in the country. It has plainly gone left-wing only and that's not a good thing. For me, thank goodness for Fox News so yeah, I do have another source.

    Here's some depressing reading. 24 killed in one weekend in Chicago. Doesn't fit a political narrative so the lefties don't care, but the families of the 24 sure do. We all should.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/platfor...VrBqjz9MhtXcvY
  • Jun 8, 2020, 04:49 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The NYT is not just another newspaper. It's the largest paper in the country. It has plainly gone left-wing only and that's not a good thing. For me, thank goodness for Fox News so yeah, I do have another source.

    Like Fox News is an unbiased media source in the first place and I suspect competitive snipping has a lot to do with that flavor of said article.

    Quote:

    Here's some depressing reading. 24 killed in one weekend in Chicago. Doesn't fit a political narrative so the lefties don't care, but the families of the 24 sure do. We all should.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/platfor...VrBqjz9MhtXcvY
    Lots of gang violence fueling the Chicago deaths. Always has been a huge problem in those areas.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 04:57 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Like Fox News is an unbiased media source in the first place and I suspect competitive snipping has a lot to do with that flavor of said article.
    Find the evidence of bias at Fox. Be specific.

    Quote:

    Lots of gang violence fueling the Chicago deaths. Always has been a huge problem in those areas.
    If it was in your neighborhood, you'd really, really want something done about it.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:09 AM
    jlisenbe
    https://patriot.imgix.net/df76377eb1...20&auto=format
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:18 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Find the evidence of bias at Fox. Be specific.

    If it was in your neighborhood, you'd really, really want something done about it.

    1. It's self evident, so I seldom watch it. Except Chris Wallace and Brent Baer sometimes.

    2. Been there done that. Grew up and raised kids in the inner city as well as lived there until I moved to Texas almost 20 years ago. Yes I am experienced.

    Quote:
    Nice deceptive LIE! Disobeying a lockdown order, state or local was not really prosecuted to my knowledge but should in no way be conflated or compared to the activity antics of criminals.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    It's self evident, so I seldom watch it
    As I figured. Crickets.

    Quote:

    Nice deceptive LIE! Disobeying a lockdown order, state or local was not really prosecuted to my knowledge
    You must be asleep. There is one listed below. In my own state we had a looney dem mayor have the police writing tickets to church members who were having an outside service in their cars. Wake up!!

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/abb...s-restrictions
  • Jun 8, 2020, 06:16 AM
    talaniman
    Just like your partial quote of my words JL, your outrage is over things that have been CORRECTED as your link attests! Telling half the story is akin to lying by omission, or biased at best. That's not crickets my friend, but a futile attempt to change the narrative.

    https://www.magnoliastatelive.com/20...n-churchgoers/

    Quote:

    The mayor said the officer who issued the tickets was doing so after receiving multiple complaint calls about the gathering and was thus not targeting the church.
    “This whole incident has been taken out of context,” Simmons said. “It’s a misrepresentation of the officers, this council and this mayor.”
    Google is your friend if you use it to do your own homework to add HONESTY to the discussion. FACTS, over just FEELINGS.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 06:30 AM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. I'm sure people were calling in left and right to complain about people sitting in their cars in a church parking lot.

    The "crickets" reference was in regard to you coming up completely empty on your silly charge of bias against Fox News. Nothing. Nada. Rien. Nichts.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 06:38 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. I'm sure people were calling in left and right to complain about people sitting in their cars in a church parking lot.

    The "crickets" reference was in regard to you coming up completely empty on your silly charge of bias against Fox News. Nothing. Nada. Rien. Nichts.

    I chose to ignore such a silly ploy about a silly network reporting policy. Such a discussion is irrelevant to me, so I'll take those crickets as a badge of honor that the subject is being dismissed. That's the way you should take it too, as your opinion about the church goers complaints. DISMISSED as irrelevant!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. I'm sure people were calling in left and right to complain about people sitting in their cars in a church parking lot.

    The "crickets" reference was in regard to you coming up completely empty on your silly charge of bias against Fox News. Nothing. Nada. Rien. Nichts.

    I chose to ignore such a silly ploy about a silly network reporting policy. Such a discussion is irrelevant to me, so I'll take those crickets as a badge of honor that the subject is being dismissed. That's the way you should take it too, as your opinion about the church goers complaints. DISMISSED as irrelevant!
  • Jun 8, 2020, 06:41 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I chose to ignore such a silly ploy about a silly network reporting policy. Such a discussion is irrelevant to me, so I'll take those crickets as a badge of honor that the subject is being dismissed. That's the way you should take it too, as your opinion about the church goers complaints. DISMISSED as irrelevant!
    Nah. You just had no clue as to what the answer would be. I hear this silliness all the time. "The NYT is biased?? Oh yeah, well so is Fox News!" Except they don't seem to be able to find examples of bias, just like you can't either.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 07:26 AM
    talaniman
    >SIGH<

    I've done my homework...do your own. Or be willing to pay for services rendered...CASH in advance, since you still owe the outstanding debt for building the nation you enjoy by my elders and ancestors.

    No more credit or free work. Pay up, or shut up! Or do it your darn self!

    Said with love not hate. 8D
  • Jun 8, 2020, 07:36 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    so is Fox News!" Except they don't seem to be able to find examples of bias, just like you can't either.

    Fox News owned by Rupert Murdoch and once run by Roger Ailes - now gone because of sexual harassment - is easily the worst of any major media utterly failing journalistic principles by rarely straight reporting, almost always spinning sharply to the right-wing and the only source read by 40-50% of conservatives and Trump supporters. That's a major reason most Trump supporters are so ignorant re current events.

    With a lineup like Carlson, Hannity and Ingraham, no one expects the truth.

    You want examples of bias? Here's a tiny selection.


  • Jun 8, 2020, 07:45 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    by rarely straight reporting, almost always spinning sharply to the right-wing
    Almost always??? Silliness.

    As to your links, you can usually find instances of poor fact checking from most opinion journalists. But when you find a situation like now exists at the Times where conservative opinion cannot be allowed, even to the firing of the editor, then you will have a legit gripe. Or when you can find an instance of Fox helping one participant in a debate to the detriment of the other such as happened with CNN, then you have a real complaint.

    Here's a little more from CNN to chew on.

    https://newspunch.com/fake-news-stories-cnn/
  • Jun 8, 2020, 08:04 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    As to your links, you can usually find instances of poor fact checking

    You asked for examples of bias. You got examples of bias.

    Then you went ahead and changed the subject. And you wonder why anybody ever bothers to answer your questions!
  • Jun 8, 2020, 09:41 AM
    jlisenbe
    No one has asked you to participate. Stop replying by all means. You will do all of us a favor.

    The topic was news bias. I have not changed the subject, but I did provide examples that made you uncomfortable.

    This bears repeating. "But when you find a situation like now exists at the Times where conservative opinion cannot be allowed, even to the firing of the editor, then you will have a legit gripe. Or when you can find an instance of Fox helping one participant in a debate to the detriment of the other such as happened with CNN, then you have a real complaint."

    Or the media actively working to get Biden nominated at the expense of Sanders and Warren.

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/11/c...c-warren-biden
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:13 AM
    tomder55
    it's very simple . FOX commentators clearly have biases . I don't see it in their news staff .
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:16 AM
    jlisenbe
    That's pretty much it. If you watch Fox (rarely for me), you know what you are getting with Hannity, Tucker, etc. It's the hard news that should concern us.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:27 AM
    talaniman
    Sanders and Warren suspended their campaigns months ago and have endorsed Biden already. Last years news has been replaced by current events and the voters. Bernie is still collecting delegates to influence the dem platform.

    Understandable a socialist magazine would be for the Bern though.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:29 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Last years news has been replaced by current events and the voters.
    Did you notice that ALL of the links for Athos were prior to this year?? Did you bring that up?
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:38 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Did you notice that ALL of the links for Athos were prior to this year?? Did you bring that up?

    Quote:

    You want examples of bias? Here's a tiny selection.
    So now you are grading someone else's homework, or nitpicking? Athos said it was a TINY selection.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:40 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    So now you are grading someone else's homework, or nitpicking?
    Actually, I was just following your example. "Last years news has been replaced by current events and the voters." But you were able to dodge the question.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 10:54 AM
    talaniman
    There was no time restriction on your question of bias in the media, so you must have been nitpicking, to lower Athos's grade.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 11:42 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    There was no time restriction on your question of bias in the media
    Then why did you put one in? You do realize that you were the initial nitpicker???
  • Jun 8, 2020, 01:19 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No one has asked you to participate. Stop replying by all means. You will do all of us a favor.

    Aha! Got to you, didn't I? If you don't have an answer, silence the opposition. You must be a terror in your little social circle.

    How far up the dufus' arse do you need to be to determine who posts on these pages? If you want to play that game, then here's news about how you are seen here.

    You are the most despicable and unwlecome moron to ever disgrace these pages with your lies, evasions, and idiocies. Your racism which is now coming to the fore is especially disgraceful as the country is trying to come to terms with it by truly attempting to understand the black experience. Your stuck-in-the-past notions tell us all we need to know about you.

    When you insult me or others, it is a sure tell we are getting to you. Your attempt at shutting up those who see through you is a transparent attempt to make up for your deficiencies.

    From your strange positions on abortion and hell, taxes, and race you contribute nothing to this website.

    Head, dufus, arse perfectly describes you.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 02:12 PM
    jlisenbe
    Insult you, little man with big mouth?(Wow. I like that. I've got to find the Choctaw name for that. I'll work on it.) Nah. Not worth it. Just really pity you. You were caught lying about Aquinas, and you've never gotten over it. That's where the poison is coming from, so I don't take it personally. Your ego just can't handle it, and you're running from God as fast as you can go. That's regrettable.

    I do hope to use your post above for my Christian youth group presentation, though I'll have to edit out some of your vulgar words. Like I said earlier, you're just a never ending fountain of material. Thanks!
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:44 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post

    I do hope to use your post above for my Christian youth group presentation, though I'll have to edit out some of your vulgar words. Like I said earlier, you're just a never ending fountain of material. Thanks!

    Christian youth group presentation? I sincerely hope thay don't let you anywhere near youth, Christian or otherwise
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:44 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I do hope to use your post above for my Christian youth group presentation, though I'll have to edit out some of your vulgar words. Like I said earlier, you're just a never ending fountain of material. Thanks!

    You're pretty much a one-note moron, repeating over and over the same nonsense.

    Your Christian youth organization presentation is priceless. Be sure and tell them how you are so confounded with your bizarre nonsense that most of those fetuses you cry crocodile tears over for being aborted wind up in a hell for all eternity being tortured. Not a very nice picture, is it? Yet it is your firm belief, stated here several times. Be sure and tell them that, ok?

    Now, continue with your nastiness. It has become your trademark.
  • Jun 8, 2020, 05:50 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you watch Fox (rarely for me)

    Hahahahaha - another lie, but a funny one! You lie so much, your Christianity is suspect. As noted previously, you are a CINO (Christian In Name Only). Now THAT'S funny!

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