GERMANY is the "Dirty Bastard" in the E.U.....their ambitions go way beyond just wanting the E.U. to succeed: They want to run Europe in entirety!
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GERMANY is the "Dirty Bastard" in the E.U.....their ambitions go way beyond just wanting the E.U. to succeed: They want to run Europe in entirety!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/euro...ood-thing.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/05/aust...he-region.html
Portugal, Spain, Greece and Italy — arguably those hit the most by the sovereign debt crisis — have all been relaxing their economic policies.
Talaniman: Well, they are on a "Death Wish Watch List".....Greece is a habitual offender: Germany is like a crack dealer: Hand out loans for ridiculous interest rates and they will always be on the hook.
All those economies that relax below the snow line, enjoying the sunshine, but now the coronavirus will become a problemQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Spreading everywhere rather quickly is pretty inevitable if China is any indication, and do we know where it comes from yet? Looks like a long battle against a bug here, folks.
It was a ChiCom superbug biological weapon that either got away from them/escaped or was unleashed as a test and got out of hand OR was done purposely: The ChiCom can lose half their population and still be the 2nd largest country in the world, so they can absorb large loses: WE CANNOT!
Even the Chinese haven't had those kinds of death rates yet, but obviously it's everywhere and the dufus has put Pence in charge after lying to us that everything is under control. This after slashing budgets and ending programs that were design specifically for this kind of event.
Don't even watch Wall Streets response.
Hmmm, isn't Pence one of those fundie Christians who's looking ahead to the apocalypse and the rapture? Now he can do his part to make them happen! (Why does he always have the same facial expression? Have we ever heard him speak?)Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Talaniman: With the "traffic" that now exist in this world, isolating a virus is going to be impossible, especially one that has a 14 day incubation period WHERE THAT SAME PERSON IS CONTAGIOUS EVEN BEFORE SYSMPTOMS ARE SHOWN. You can imagine one person's circle of contact expanded over a 14 day period and then expand those contacts into and ever wider circle of contacts: The expansion rate become exponential. I think this epidemic is going to be hard to make into a political football.
People will be judged by how they react to this health crisis. That means all the leaders. Any crisis can be a political football if the leaders don't address this situation correctly, as well they should be. This is where the rubber meets the road and I doubt there will be much tolerance of just lip service from any leader.
Not a good look to get rid of people whose job it is to handle pandemics, and then have one is it? That's not politicalizing an issue, just the reality of the consequences of short sited political decision that will no doubt have consequences unless the right correction is made..PDQ! You worried he is up to the task or something? Have you no faith he and he alone can fix it as he bragged?
This is when the tough get going and talkers get gone. Plain and simple.
If you cannot or ARE NOT WILLING to seal your borders, a Pandemic cannot be stopped short of entering your country.
wonder how many Dems think travel restrictions are "racist" now ?
It's going to be interesting when libs begin to get sick to see how they figure out a way to blame Trump for not sealing our southern border.
I already blame the dufus for dismantling the scientists in charge of dealing with such diseases. You knew there were no safety protocols when the sent two planes to bring Americans home from China each had both healthy and infected folks on the same plane. I mean like DUH! Yes folks the State Department was the lead on that instead of SCIENTISTS, as well as the folks from the cruise ship. Sure we are in good hands with the dufus administration, what could go wrong? You still worried about immigrants? You better worry about your local hospital being ready, you know just in case.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/89879...rkish-soldiers
Plus the dufus said it would just disappear soon, so why worry?
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/27/p...ear/index.html
Some people say it would be racist to deny entry to the U.S. of people from Red China....it would be XENOPHOBIC.....Today is an age where even viruses have Civil Rights.
It's already here. Brace yourself for Armageddon. Will you be raptured?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
It is not up to me, W.G.: We all will be judged....it is out of our hands....this is called FAITH.
I always was a hope for the best but plan for the worst type of person. I think this crisis gets worse before it gets better. Everybody else has shut stuff down and told people to stay home while the health systems get overwhelmed and we probably will face the same decisions.
Yes Tal, your hospitals and medicines will be too expensive for the poor, people will die in the thousands all you can do is close borders like the rest of usQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Wow. Weren't you the one telling us a few weeks back that we should not judge?Quote:
Hmmm, isn't Pence one of those fundie Christians who's looking ahead to the apocalypse and the rapture?
How is that a judgment? It sure looks like a question.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
jl we are told to make right judgementsQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I was a fundie most of my life. It wasn't a judgment.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
well it looked like it to me too, saying that Pence is a fundie Christian sounds like a judgement, Christians are called upon to be practical as well as having faith and he is no different
Yeah. I'm sure you meant that "fundie Christians" remark to be a compliment.Quote:
Hmmm, isn't Pence one of those fundie Christians who's looking ahead to the apocalypse and the rapture?
Clete, I was referring the WG's comment on the matter, not my own. I would agree with you that we must be able to assess "rightness" or "wrongness".
Wouldn't it be great if we all followed the same ideology? We don't. Fundie is not a knock or compliment, just a description of ideology.There are many levels of right and wrong, and the nuance is subtle and at the same time great. WG is correct, Pence is a hard core fundie, he doesn't believe in the science of needle exchanges, or didn't until the HIV crises in a part of the state he governed got worse, and he changed his policy. He also thinks you can pray away the gay, and be a hetero. We know how well that works.Closing PP because it facilitates abortions, while not recognizing the VAST other things it does, is also part of the fundie ideology. How is THAT right? Pence did that too, and helped the HIV crises in Indiana get worse.His record as a governor before he bacame a VP is simple enough to look up.
Yes folks this is the guy tapped to manage this coronavirus crises, but we will see if he has learned a darn thing from past actions, or will he let his fundie ideology get in the way. Hopefully he has learned better, and leaves his politics and religion out of this crises, and let's the scientists do their job.
Nothing like prejudging a matter, if he calls on you to pray, will you? or will you reject that as part of "fundie" christianity? In what way will his politics affect the administration of the response? he can only respond with the resources he hasQuote:
Yes folks this is the guy tapped to manage this coronavirus crises, but we will see if he has learned a darn thing from past actions, or will he let his fundie ideology get in the way. Hopefully he has learned better, and leaves his politics and religion out of this crises, and let's the scientists do their job.
It's not prejudice to point out his actions and record as a governor. At least google the dude and review his record then and now. I've prayed with many people in my life, and will again, no problem, but praying the gay away to make a gay person hetero, is as loony as it gets in my book!
If he cannot do his job and get whatever resources that's NEEDED, then that's how he will be judged. Pray for getting those resources is something I would certainly join him in, and hope he succeeds beyond my wildest expectations.
Uhm, kind of contradictory statements aren't they?Quote:
but we will see if he has learned a darn thing from past actions, or will he let his fundie ideology get in the way.
Fundie is not a knock or compliment, just a description of ideology.
How so?
You say that being called a "fundie" is not a knock, but then proceed to say that it will "get in the way" if he has not learned "a darn thing" from the past. If being a fundie is neutral (not a knock), then why do you assume it would get in the way? Why wouldn't you just as well assume it would be a positive?
I think it is safe to say that the RESPONSE of the U.S. to this ChiCom virus will be the best in the world: Despite all the crap slung about with regards to the U.S. "HEALTHCARE" System, when people want to come to the best hospitals in the world, they end up coming to the U.S.: We have the best doctors in the world, why? Because WE PAY THE BEST DOCTORS IN THE WORLD MORE THAN THEY CAN GET PAID ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD! Don't even try to counter what I just said, because you know its true...And, our research and development is also the best in the world. So, don't wish upon a star that all of this goes to hell in a handbasket so it impugns Trump to the point it prevents him getting elected in November because it ain't happening! The U.S. infrastructure is just too massive, too strong, and too good to fail.....unless, of course, God has chosen this ChiCom virus as the END of us all and HE has that power....BELIEVE THIS: IF ITS GOD'S PLAN, NOTHING CAN STOP IT!
So when does the testing start to find out who got what? Then you'll know how serious this thing is here and with 6 deaths already forget them freakin' masks and get those test kits to the frontline NOW!
Talaniman: With a 14 day incubation period where the hosts can spread the virus, you can better the incidence of the virus will take of EXPONENTIALLY soon: It could go from dozens to tens of thousands within two to three weeks....The 1918 Pandemic killed ~50 million with a 2% death rate on individual who caught the flu: World population is more than twice that now, I think(?)...so, the deaths today could be 100,000,000.
or 100,000 or 10,000. This is not the flu. It is a disease that mainly affects older, vulnerable people. The medical science has moved on from 1918, one hundred years has made a big difference in survival rates, nutrition. 100 years ago obesity, now the biggest threat to humanity, wasn't a problem. It will kill more people this year than CV, so will the common fluQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Good point.Quote:
It will kill more people this year than CV, so will the common flu
Right now, we really don't know ANYTHING! We only know what we are told....and we damned sure don't know how many ChiComs are dead right now. We don't know much. You want to bet on our medical prowess saving the day? Well, we have done a wonderful job curing another virus call AIDS, haven't we?
GOD, Himself, will let us know when we don't have to worry about this CV, and only He knows: We aren't that smart and certainly aren't that powerful.
Vac you are religious person you know about pestilence as prophesied in Revelation, this is either the end times or it is not
All that matters is what you do during these times whether they are prophesy or not. I mean you are worried about locust and the power companies and factories are fouling the drinking water and air?
Talaniman: There are a thousand daggers pointed at the heart of man....and, sadly, most all of them are of his own design....Stupidity is a bad thing...Arrogance is a bad thing...Stupidity AND Arrogance can be a deadly combination.
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