My understanding is that as the ability to test for CV increases, then the mass closings will become less and less necessary. It can't happen fast enough. But then those money trees in D.C. are always blooming.
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My understanding is that as the ability to test for CV increases, then the mass closings will become less and less necessary. It can't happen fast enough. But then those money trees in D.C. are always blooming.
If they find that more people than they thought have the virus then we see more closings. So far no place in America has shown that the virus is slowing down, just the opposite as more testing is done.
It appears to take anything up to three months for the infections to peak so you are not out of the woods yet but by easter you may see some relief and trump may prove rightQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I like your optimism but 20 days seems unrealistic. 60 days? I don't see that either considering how tepid the response is thus far.
Yes but miracles still happen trump has decreed it
I have no faith in the dufus decrees let alone miracles of which he has but one...he got elected.
Tal I believe that the testing alone is going to show an artificial increase in the virus but not a real exponential one. Right now testing isnt at its highest levels so it only shows that the "facts" are just artificial projections.
BTW I hope you and your family are safe.
Same to you Cdad, been a while, bet your kids are grown by now! 8DQuote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Only widespread testing can give us an accurate picture unless hospitals start turning people away.
Already testing is giving great results ;but inaccurate ones since people who presumably don't have it are NOT being tested then we don't have a true denominator to work with . I think the results will confirm an over reaction . But at this point it is neither here nor there . The die is cast and we have to learn the hard way as a society that the cure is worse than the illness. I really do hope that those who predict a V recovery are right . I have my doubts ;the ugly hand of government intervention has been unleashedQuote:
Tal I believe that the testing alone is going to show an artificial increase in the virus but not a real exponential one. Right now testing isnt at its highest levels so it only shows that the "facts" are just artificial projections.
What government intervention? States and locals have been scrambling waiting on an intervention. That's why the dufus considering opening up parts of the economy is crapola for dumb people, since he nor the feds have shut anything down. You think states and locals will listen to him if he tries that? Naw, just bluster for the stupid, and no doubt he walks that back citing the scientist made me do it.
ah the plot is finally revealed, shut down NYC. But in a time when the world is isolating americans are still taking to the skys in droves
NYC is not being shut down.
Trump has the plan
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Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/srYxvY8uXhM/maxresdefault.jpg
sure looks like it to me, still you are in good company similar scenes are repeated all over the world, the Chinese thought the tariffs did damage to their economy, now we will see what their foolishness does
What I meant is that it has not been quarantined by the feds. I think you are right in that they have largely shut themselves down. It's a good time to be praying for all of this is fertile soil for revival in faith in Jesus.
we have RI guard and cops going door to door looking for NYers in the state .
That's kind of scary.
RI in a state of panic? Shocking a venture capitalists Yale grad acting like a loony right winger. Hope Cuomo talks some sense into her.
I actually don't blame her. The same thing is happening in areas like Poconos PA ; and Hamptons Long Island.....anywhere where rich NYers have summer get aways . The Poconos have a disproportionate amt of cases because NYers come in for weekend get aways . The Hamptons are ridiculous . The stores normally cater to a a much smaller winter population . But the liberal rich jet set crown from Manhattan like locust went there when the orders came down ;brought up everything in the stores ,stocked their freezers to wait it out . If you are going to be told to stay home ,where better than in your private beach house .
https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/we-sho...e-in-hamptons/
She is actually a liberal dem acting just like a liberal dem.Quote:
Shocking a venture capitalists Yale grad acting like a loony right winger.
Hard to stop anyone from moving state to state in this country, even scared rich folks I guess, but acting out of fear does no good, but everybody is scared and frankly who knows what to really do. Even rich folks can be selfish and stupid, and get carried away, and that does no good either. Wonder what happens when you run out of places to run too?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Even lib dems do the wrong things, but she got talked down, somewhat.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
https://www.golocalprov.com/news/new...ravel-restrict
Time to restrict movement for the public good, this is how individual freedoms are lost, perfect unions become a thing of the past as local rules become paramountQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Half the country is restricted somewhat, but the other half, not so much if at all. Some of our governors ain't there yet. Far as I know they prez ain't pushing them either, at least not yet. Many think eventually they will as the cases rise and the hospitals fill.
Now you have the benefit of a federal system, the PM and Cabinet decided and the country is in lockdown, no more than two people meeting and 16 reasons why you can legally be out of your house, this is besides state border closures, federal border closures, cruise ships not allowed to dock and airlines shut down and all we have is 4,000 confirmed cases and 18 deaths
So far
so I think we have over reacted
Or you can look at your reaction and efforts thus far as being the reason the growth rate is slower than other countries.
You see the reason the growth rate is slower than other countries is vast distances and lower population, the virus cannot cross water as easily as it crosses land. 60% of our infections are recent travellers most of whom are quarantined and everyone who has returned lately is forcibly quarantined. Even so there are 9 local infections where I live in a small rural city but I think my government has panicked and caused an economic collapse
I won't argue the facts of open land and water and people passing germs but one would think the new conservative government in Australia would have things under better control and not panic at the events unfolding. Maybe you should have them tested.
well some of them have tested positive and we will see if they escaped the G20 unscathed
A politician that washes his hands what a novel idea as that's probably the only thing clean about them.
That hand washing is not taking responsibility just like pilate
Would you rather be hunkered down and stay healthy, or trying to make money and getting sick or make somebody else sick, or DIE?
I can answer that since I go to work every day real close to the epicenter ;being essential and all that . If the economy of the planet doesn't get up and running real soon there will be people dying from the resulting global depression . Will more or less die ? Who knows? Also the government is printing money over time . If bonds are not sold to finance the debt (don't believe this $2 tril number . Kudlow said it will be more like $6 trillion based on Fed guarantees ) And now Trump and the Dems are drooling over more "shovel ready " infrastructure bills that will add even more trillions . It is unsustainable . Hope you have a good wheel barrel ready when you have to load it up with cash to buy some bread and TP . Hyper-inflation here we come . I don't like the risk . But the way I see it ,I am at risk at work or at home .
These days of uncertainty are unnerving and nobody can say when normal comes back or will it be a new normal. Tom, I think a lot of people will follow you through that stress of uncertainty in the next few months and we will all share in the plain helplessness of it all.
I only hope we learn enough from this to rebuild and be better than we were when this thing started. Funny how a bug you can't even see can do what an army cannot, but maybe being humbled will wake us up to needed changes and fast enough for the next one. I don't think business as usual will be sufficient for that any more and clearly we need a better plan.
Until then the problem just grows and spreads. We can hardly brag about leading the world when we can't take care of ourselves. Take care of yourself Tom, we just watch and wait for our turn in the barrel.
Yes and this depression will be caused by politicians not a virus, unless as you consider as I do, that the politicians are the real virus, like bureaucrats, they spreadQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
LOL, politicians got nothing on this bug, but like the virus, no cures are know just elections as a cure, which this virus puts in limbo so far.
elections have never cured us of politicians only revolution can do that and only for a short time
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