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  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    It most certainly is, pocket sized at the moment.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:19 AM
    tomder55
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    here is one of mine at an agility trial

    Attachment 45444
  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:23 AM
    talaniman
    Beautiful dogs guys.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:24 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It most certainly is, pocket sized at the moment.

    good luck I'm sure it will have plenty of energy to burn. I had an Aussie Shepard before my recent pack.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:31 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Beautiful dogs guys.
    Thanks. I agree on both counts.

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    good luck I'm sure it will have plenty of energy to burn. I had an Aussie Shepard before my recent pack.
    I remember. I haven't had a pup in 7 years but I do remember these heelers are little terrors for a while.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 04:07 PM
    Tuttyd
    "yea that the fall back position but since the lefties point the J' accuse finger at us all the time, turn around is fair play".



    Yes, I agree, and I am sorry you feel like the victim, but this is what happens when the power sharing base becomes too narrow; history has shown that civic virtue goes out the window.

    Can I just also add that for any Republic to survive in cannot rely on the virtue of men. Rather it needs to rely on a genuine mixed power base. Not a personified triumvirate of big business, big government (both persuasions) and big unions.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 05:04 PM
    tomder55
    the American people are the victims ;and unlike the lefties ,I take on my side . As an example ;I'll have a lot to say about the phony Tom Donahue and how his organization ,the US Chamber of Commerce has become the US Chamber of Cronies...and how speaker Bonehead and the RINOs are falling in line behind the Chamber's policies.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 07:11 PM
    paraclete
    Sometimes I wonder Tom whether you are a conservative or just a devil's advocate.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 08:15 PM
    tomder55
    A real conservative does not support the Chamber of Commerce's immigration position. And I don't understand why the libs who claim to support the workforce would favor an influx of illegal cheap labor into an already over crowded job market....a labor force whose benefits are paid for through the excessive fees, and taxes of working American citizens forced into Obamacare.
    I mean ;this is happening at the very same time the libs are extending unemployment benefits for the 11th time . Speaker Bonehead and the Repubic inside the beltway crowd are lining up to pass whatever legislation the Chamber tells them to .

    A real conservative thinks that the consolidation of business into the hands of the politically connected is not free market .
  • Jan 8, 2014, 08:26 PM
    talaniman
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    A real conservative thinks that the consolidation of business into the hands of the politically connected is not free market
    Progressives and liberals think exactly the same thing.
  • Jan 8, 2014, 08:51 PM
    paraclete
    ""A real conservative thinks that the consolidation of business into the hands of the politically connected is not free market .""As I said before not a conservative since conservatives want to preserve the prerogative of business to organise however they please. Cronyism must be resisted. I think Tom you are coming to the conclusion all is not well in republican land. This often happens when you have had a polarisation of views as has happened with your Tparty. There is a difference between conservatism and right wing extremism. You do have immigration problems and a taste for cheap labour, and it appears no taste for the greater American prosperity zone, now if you would just annex Mexico and Canada your problems would be solved
  • Jan 8, 2014, 11:22 PM
    paraclete
    patriotism becomes racism
    Seriously, we have gone nuts. pandering to a few indigenous who might, and I say might, because they haven't been heard from, have their noses out of joint because a T-shirt suggests Australia was established in 1788. well modern Australia was actually established in 1901, from 1788 to 1900 it was a British colony and before that we could only describe it as Barbequearea or Terra Incognito, it wasn't Australia
    Big W follows Aldi in recalling controversial 'Australia Est 1788' shirt - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
    I wonder will they withdraw the invasion day Tshirts the indigenous wear on Jan 26 which I consider offensive
  • Jan 9, 2014, 07:44 AM
    tomder55
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    since conservatives want to preserve the prerogative of business to organise however they please
    A conservative believes in free market capitalism ,and not for businesses to cut deals with government for the purpose of getting a competitive advantage .
  • Jan 9, 2014, 08:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    and not for businesses to cut deals with government for the purpose of getting a competitive advantage .
    Liberals believe that is wrong as well.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 09:00 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Liberals believe that is wrong as well.
    I'll believe that when I see them criticize their own for doing just that.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 09:14 AM
    tomder55
    I'll believe that when the emperor cuts, GE probably the biggest rent seeking corporation in the US, out of their cozy exclusive place in the Obamacare industry .
  • Jan 9, 2014, 10:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    Why would he? It's endemic in the system, they all do it. Having one or two people criticize it while still doing it solves nothing. You're basically saying it isn't a big issue when it's actually the biggest issue.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 02:26 PM
    speechlesstx
    He isn't saying that at all and I fail to see where anyone thought 1 or 2 people criticizing their bad behavior is going to change anything. That's endemic among liberals, they SAY they believe it's wrong, whine about the problem and lecture others on it while looking the other way when their guy does it.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 02:57 PM
    speechlesstx
    Here is the emperor's latest nonsensical ploy to spur the economy and wage their "income inequality" war, establishing "Promise Zones."

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    President Obama on Thursday will unveil another facet of his plan to combat income inequality, this time focusing on a theme embraced by Democrats and Republicans alike: economic mobility.


    Joined by local leaders at the White House, Mr. Obama will officially announce the administration’s first five “promise zones” -- pockets of the country that will receive comprehensive federal assistance after being especially hard-hit by the recession. The five zones will be located in San Antonio, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, Southeastern Kentucky and the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. The administration aims to ultimately assist 20 such regions.
    I suggest he tell us how his millions invested in "Promise Neighborhoods" has worked out before asking us to buy into this useless idea, but I doubt that will happen or that the media will even question it.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 03:33 PM
    paraclete
    Well, a regional development plan under another guise
  • Jan 9, 2014, 04:28 PM
    talaniman
    We could always let Walmart's develop the neighborhoods since they get millions in local tax breaks, and wages are subsidized by welfare.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 04:48 PM
    paraclete
    yeh Walmart as social welfare
  • Jan 9, 2014, 05:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    Walmart and Obama do have something in common, they both look out for their own interests. At least Walmart gets results that make a difference in people's lives, Obama just looks out for himself whatever the cost. This is just political BS.
  • Jan 9, 2014, 06:04 PM
    paraclete
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    This is just political BS.
    well of course it is, another recycled program, pick it up, dust it off, give it another name, government and politics was ever so. there are no new ideas, just variations on a theme
  • Jan 10, 2014, 08:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Another example of Dems looking out purely for their own interests instead of those of the people they serve. The Senate was close to a bipartisan deal to extend unemployment benefits until Harry Reid, as is his MO, blocked Republicans from adding any amendments to the bill.

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    WASHINGTON — What was shaping up to be a humdrum day on Capitol Hill turned into a firestorm as Majority Leader Harry Reid proposed his own plan to extend unemployment benefits and effectively blocked Republicans from having further say in the matter.

    After several days of debate over how to pass a three-month extension of the Emergency Unemployment Compensation program, Reid side-stepped negotiations with Republicans and offered a plan of his own to extend benefits through mid-November. In doing so he used a procedural tactic known as “filling the tree” to block Republicans from proposing any further amendments.


    When Reid said at a Thursday afternoon press conference he was “cautiously optimistic,” that a long-term deal would soon be announced, what he came up with isn’t what Republicans had in mind.


    “Sen. Reid announced today that he will obstruct ALL [sic] Republican amendments,” Don Stewart, a spokesman for Mitch McConnell, told BuzzFeed in an email. “It’s a real challenge to find a bipartisan accomplishment when one person shuts out the entire side of the aisle.”


    “This is crassly political,” Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) said. “They want to have something to talk about on the Sunday morning programs.”
    More of that unprecedented era of bipartisanship Obama was going to usher in. This is not something you guys want resolved, admit it. You want to use it as a hammer for the mid-terms and that's despicable. B*tch and moan about those good-for-nothing Republicans and how they hate everyone while making damn sure nothing gets done.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 09:19 AM
    talaniman
    The main republican amendment was to delay Obama Care for a year and that was your boy Mitch's idea. Past performance is pretty clear propose many amendments, delay a vote, then vote NO!! Since we know you think those people with no jobs are lazy bums anyway, even though they are older people who have worked and still looking for work, and who paid into the system when they did work.

    It's a waste of time talking to you guys and we know that. You want out of work people to pay for help, but who pays for tax breaks for rich guys? Giving up health care for insurance benefits is your idea of fair? Of course it is.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 09:35 AM
    speechlesstx
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    The main republican amendment was to delay Obama Care for a year and that was your boy Mitch's idea. Past performance is pretty clear propose many amendments, delay a vote, then vote NO!!
    You have no evidence for that other than Dingy the liar's "suggestion".

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    He suggested the Republicans wanted to offer a slew of amendments to "do nothing but whack ObamaCare."
    Just like he "suggested" Romney was a tax cheat.

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    Since we know you think those people with no jobs are lazy bums anyway, even though they are older people who have worked and still looking for work, and who paid into the system when they did work.
    Stop putting words in my mouth that have no basis in reality. There are those who work the system yes, but you'd have to be a complete moron to honestly believe that endless UI benefits doesn't create incentives to remain unemployed.

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    t's a waste of time talking to you guys and we know that. You want out of work people to pay for help, but who pays for tax breaks for rich guys? Giving up health care for insurance benefits is your idea of fair? Of course it is.
    Talking to liberals about their hypocrisy is also a waste of time. You need a mirror, dude. You don't get to b*tch at me about do-nothing Republicans while your guys consistently shut them out. You don't get to b*cth at me about Republicans not caring about people while your guys are using them as political pawns. Time to grow up and get a spine, Tal.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 01:38 PM
    talaniman
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    QUOTE by speechlesstx;
    You have no evidence for that other than Dingy the liar's "suggestion".
    He said it on TV I saw it from Mitch's own mouth.

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    Just like he "suggested" Romney was a tax cheat.
    Romney I last years news and he pays less taxes than you do, and hides his profits all over the world, tax free. Yes its legal. Harry and his republican fellow senator from Nevada have some the nations highest unemployment rate, and want to extend unemployment benefits.

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    Stop putting words in my mouth that have no basis in reality. There are those who work the system yes, but you'd have to be a complete moron to honestly believe that endless UI benefits doesn't create incentives to remain unemployed.
    You say endless, I say emergency since there are not enough jobs. You do know anyone claiming UI benefits is required to look for work and show proof don't you? Those that don't know that are the morons.

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    Talking to liberals about their hypocrisy is also a waste of time. You need a mirror, dude. You don't get to b*tch at me about do-nothing Republicans while your guys consistently shut them out. You don't get to b*cth at me about Republicans not caring about people while your guys are using them as political pawns. Time to grow up and get a spine, Tal.
    Wake up, because I will always have enough spine to push back strongly against the BS of your false right wing narrative. Count on it.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 02:21 PM
    speechlesstx
    So something McConnell said in what, 2010 is relevant to the UI debate? What does Dingy have to fear from Republicans offering amendments for a vote? Is killing the filibuster and having a majority to kill any amendment he doesn't like not enough, he has to obstruct them from even offering a say, too? Geez Tal, this is not a dictatorship as much as you'd like it to be. The rest of your rant is just so much pablum.

    Like I said, you don't get to b*tch at me about do-nothing Republicans while your guys consistently shut them out. You don't get to b*tch at me about Republicans not caring about people while your guys are using them as political pawns without being called on it. You know damn well Reid wants this to stall so he can use it to batter Republicans even though he's the one doing the obstructing, and that does nothing to help those people you pretend to care about. That's a fact, Jack.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 03:04 PM
    tomder55
    Tal doesn't think that unemployment benefits (now a form of welfare ) should be paid for . Just add it to the debt ...no biggie. Yes ,then we need another CR before the 2014 budget resolution is ready to meet the Jan 15 deadline.

    But Sen. Kelly Ayotte has a simple solution to pay for it. All they need to do is crack down on a tax credit program in which illegal immigrants have fraudulently collected billions of dollars in improper payments. Stop the fraud ...extend the benefits. It's simple ...anyone collecting benefits from the Additional Child Tax Credit must supply a Social Security number in order to collect the money. The Dems don't like it.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 03:17 PM
    talaniman
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    So something McConnell said in what, 2010 is relevant to the UI debate?
    He said it on the senate floor after the cloture vote... 3 days ago!! No wonder you can't keep up.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 03:20 PM
    talaniman
    You do know another cloture vote after the debate is coming don't you? 60 votes.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 03:51 PM
    speechlesstx
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    He said it on the senate floor after the cloture vote... 3 days ago!! No wonder you can't keep up.
    Said what, Jack? Give me the quote, the link, the video.

    I repeat, what does Dingy have to fear from Republicans offering amendments for a vote? Is killing the filibuster and having a majority to kill any amendment he doesn't like not enough, he has to obstruct them from even offering a say, too? Geez Tal, this is not a dictatorship as much as you'd like it to be.

    I think tom is onto the problem, besides planning on using it hypocritically to bash Republicans the Dems don't want the voters to see any common sense suggestions such as how to pay for it by clamping down on fraud.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 04:12 PM
    paraclete
    When you finally come to the conclusion that the filibuster has outlived its usefulness you will devise a system where amendments can be heard and voted on without obstructing the business of the senate
  • Jan 10, 2014, 04:15 PM
    talaniman
    The Real Reason Unemployment Talks Collapsed In The Senate

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    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) was pushing hard to offer an amendment that pays for a revival of emergency jobless benefits by delaying Obamacare's unpopular individual mandate for one year (which is projected to save money by reducing Obamacare subsidies and Medicaid outlays, as well as raise insurance premiums). The move was aimed at whipping up fodder for GOP Senate candidates to attack Democrats in the November congressional elections, where the Republicans hope to take back the majority.
    Mitch McConnell Attempts To Hold Unemployment Benefits Hostage For Obamacare Delay | ThinkProgress

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    “I'd like to propose that… my side be allowed to offer an amendment to pay for these benefits by lifting the burden of Obamacare's individual mandate for one year, and take care of our veterans who were harmed by the recently agreed to budget deal while we are at it, in the same amendment,” the Kentucky lawmaker said.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 04:38 PM
    tomder55
    nahh . Reid doesn't want unemployment benefits tied to restoring cuts in veterans' pensions .The Dems talk a big game about bipartisan solutions ;but bipartisanship is only demanded of the Repubics. Imagine.... unemployment extensions tied to restoring Vets benefits and eliminating fraud . Too much on the plate for the Dems who will do anything to keep the illegal alien constituency in their pocket. As Madame Mimi said ......“We’re all on the same page in passing unemployment insurance. We don’t think it should be paid for.”
  • Jan 10, 2014, 05:25 PM
    talaniman
    Let the people who made 'em unemployed pay for it. Jobless workers who want to work have paid enough.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 05:33 PM
    tomder55
    and besides ;umemployment payouts create jobs... bwaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaa !!!!!
  • Jan 10, 2014, 05:37 PM
    talaniman
    And republicans don't create job.
  • Jan 10, 2014, 06:10 PM
    speechlesstx
    Democrats create unemployed.

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