Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tomder55

Call it 'no blood for natural gas ' .

---

Like you need natural gas? Isn't there sufficient demand in Syria for their natural gas? Those arabic foods cause a lot of gas.

The real question is who is running that place, public sentiment or the oil companies. The last war was about gaining control of Iraq oil, so you think this one is about gaining control of Syrian natural gas. The last war resulted in higher oil prices this one will result in higher natural gas prices.. We had a saying once "poor fella my country" I think it might apply to you

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paraclete

like you need natural gas? isn't there sufficient demand in Syria for their natural gas? those arabic foods cause a lot of gas.

The real question is who is running that place, public sentiment or the oil companies. The last war was about gaining control of Iraq oil, so you think this one is about gaining control of Syrian natural gas. the last war resulted in higher oil prices this one will result in higher natural gas prices.. We had a saying once "poor fella my country" I think it might apply to you

---

If that BS claim Iraq was over control of oil... then why aren't we in control of all the oil there..

You do understand what cease fire agreements are?

This is ALL about pencild*ck Obama having his manliness questioned... so he wants to prove how manly he is by killing people... just like any bully that has his virility questioned.

Nobody did anything when they shot up a bunch of people in Syria, so what's the fuss over gassing them? Even if he never uses gas again, he sure as hell won't stop killing people. But it sure would put a crimp in Russia's guns for oil deal, and that port where they repair Russian ships(?) if they took Assad out. And you think those rebels will play nice with anyone who supported Assad?

Its win or die for Assad, and Mother Russia has made it plain they like him alive. Good thing he doesn't have a nuke, he would use that too because madmen always will use whatever they have to get what they want, or just for the hell of it.

There are bigger issues here than dead Syrians otherwise the west would have stepped in long ago. Obama is a fool if he thinks firing a few cruise missiles will protect Syrian civilians. If assard thinks he has nothing to loose he might use all the weapons in his arsenal.This is all bluff and bluster and Putin has called Obama's bluff. While we might think we know who used chemical weapons, the situation is so fractured in Syria maybe we don't know, perhaps the wind changed, you have to ask yourself what were civilians doing in a battle zone? Don't they have any common sense? Assard says he is winning, so now BO wants to lessen the chances of that, and yet he cannot afford an extremeist win

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paraclete

like you need natural gas? isn't there sufficient demand in Syria for their natural gas? those arabic foods cause a lot of gas.

The real question is who is running that place, public sentiment or the oil companies. The last war was about gaining control of Iraq oil, so you think this one is about gaining control of Syrian natural gas. the last war resulted in higher oil prices this one will result in higher natural gas prices.. We had a saying once "poor fella my country" I think it might apply to you

---

Nah you don't get it ,It's about competing routes of natural gas pipelines from the South Pars fields(Iran and Qatar) to Europe.Both OPEC and the Iranians want the pipelines going right through Syria.Only one will .

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tomder55

nah you don't get it ,It's about competing routes of natural gas pipelines from the South Pars fields(Iran and Qatar) to Europe.Both OPEC and the Iranians want the pipelines going right through Syria.Only one will .

---

Eventually gas doesn't carry a national flag. You put metered quantities in one end and you take metered quantities out the other end. I would think Putin's stake is to keep that gas out of Europe. The Iranians are selling their gas to Pakistan and eventually India, big energing market there. If the Iranians have so much gas they don't need nuclear or so the thinking goes

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paraclete

eventually gas doesn't carry a national flag. You put metered quantities in one end and you take metered quantities out the other end. I would think Putin's stake is to keep that gas out of Europe. The Iranians are selling their gas to Pakistan and eventually India, big energing market there. If the Iranians have so much gas they don't need nuclear or so the thinking goes

---

Umm not quite.. if OPEC's line makes it to Turkey then it cuts into Russia's virtual monopoly . If the Iranian line makes it there then Putin has a degree of control of the price.
Iran, Iraq, Syria sign major gas pipeline deal - Tehran Times
Qatar seeks gas pipeline to Turkey - The National
Either way it matters who runs the country .

Hello again,

Didja hear that Rush Limprod BELIEVES Obama gassed the rebels?? Really...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

Impossible... until now the emperor was leading from behind. But if you asked me if the jihadists we support got their hands on CW from other nations ,or even got their hands on some Syrian stock ;I would say that is quite plausible and probable. Don't forget about the 2kg of sarin that rebels in Turkey were caught with .

When Lurch Kerry speaks of moral outrages ,does he speak of the exections by the rebels that the Slimes published today ? Does he speak of the video( that I will not post here because of graphic content ) where a rebel leader carves out the heart and liver of a captive and proceeds to eat it ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Didja hear that Rush Limprod BELIEVES Obama gassed the rebels??? Really...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

---

I don't listen to Rush but I'd be willing to bet whatever he said was with a heavy dose of sarcasm.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Didja hear that Rush Limprod BELIEVES Obama gassed the rebels??? Really...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

---

Which Orifice did you pull that tidbit from? Because I listen to him at the office and he never said that.

Though I believe Obama is enough of a narcicisst to do that... if he actually had access to them, which he doesn't..

Oh... and for the people that can't cope with the fact of all the flip-flopers on the left that are currently telling lies about their support for the Iraq war...

Read it for yourself at snopes... John Kerry, and Hillarly clinton as well as Nancy (where am I ) Pelosi... and the rest of the cast of clowns.

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

Two things. First, it's come to this...

Quote:

---

‘We Are No Better’: Media Company CEO and Obama Supporter, Equates Syrian Nerve Gas With Pesticides

Maria Rodale, CEO and chairman of publishing house Rodale, Inc. manages a variety of periodicals that are household names, including Men’s Health, Women’s Health, and Prevention. She is also an outspoken supporter of President Barack Obama, as she freely admitted in the open letter to the president published in The Huffington Post on Wednesday.

But Rodale is concerned by Obama’s push for military action in Syria in response to that regime’s systematic and escalating use of chemical weapons on civilian populations. Rodale is concerned, not because children are being gassed en mass, but because the United States would view the precedent-setting use of chemical weapons to be a casus belli.

No, says the author of Organic Manifesto: How Organic Food Can Heal Our Planet, Feed the World, and Keep Us Safe. In fact, the taboo on chemical weapons is being violated every day on an unimaginable scale because children around the world are being poisoned by non-organic produce. Seriously.

“I do not consider myself a Christian,” Rodale writes, “but I would like to quote Jesus and ask, ‘Who among you has not sinned?’”

“Yes, Syria has undoubtedly used chemical weapons on its own people. Maybe it was the government; maybe it was the opposition; maybe you know for sure,” she continues. “But here’s what I know for sure: We are no better.”

We have been using chemical weapons on our own children — and ourselves — for decades, the chemical weapons we use in agriculture to win the war on pests, weeds, and the false need for ever greater yields.

Sure, some might call her a raving lunatic who may be ill-advisedly experimenting with a reduction in her daily medication. Others would call Rodale a beacon of sanity in an insane world. Then there are those who wonder what kind of a God would allow the cosmic injustice of this person’s fortune and success to continue, given the fact that she not only holds asinine opinions like these but thinks advertising them is a clever move. Count me in the latter group.—–

---

Good to see the loonies finally turning out.

And then, it's good to see the media doing their job. I give you AP reporter Matt Lee...

Quote:

---

LEE: And so what I don’t understand, though, is how he is comfortable with the president’s decision. I understand the president’s commander in chief and that everyone is going to get on board with whatever he decides, but I don’t understand why he is so full-throatedly in favor of this. He over the weekend said the president was acting courageously by taking this to Congress, and I don’t understand what is courageous about asking permission for something that you say you don’t need and to do what you believe to be the right thing not just morally but in general.

PSAKI: Well –

LEE: Can you explain why this is a courageous move and — or why the secretary would call it a courageous move?

PSAKI: Well, certainly let me first say, of course, the secretary does feel how he did on Friday, how he did on Sunday, that targeted intervention is absolutely the right step, and he does support the president’s decision to bring this to Congress. And –

LEE: Was there some kind of, like, group spine-removal op procedure at the White House over the weekend?

---

LOL, love it.

for once in her life Palin talks sense

Opinion: Sarah Palin's offensive remarks about Syria - CNN.com

Palin has echoed the sentiments of many of us on Syria. "Let Allah sort it out". A reference to allowing the God that these people worship to intervene and choose sides in the conflict. Any suggestion that she thinks Allah and Jesus are the same person should be put aside since no follower of Islam acknowledges Jesus as God. But she is right the US should stay out of the conflict irrespective of what international lines have been crossed. As long as the conflicit stays in Syria then everyone else stay out

That's just great since all the refugees are flowing into Syria's neighboring countries. Yeah that's keeping it in Syria all right.

People can choose where they want to live, those who have left show good sense, but we should not play agony aunt over those who have chosen to stay in the thick of the fighting, the arabs are revolting, revolution is a fact of life in the arab world

Quote:

---

since no follower of Islam acknowledges Jesus as God.

---

What difference would it make if they did?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

What difference would it make if they did?

---

Then you could say they worship the same God and Christians could align themselves with Muslims. This is a war that is essentially between two muslim sects who hate each other, it has nothing to do with Christians or Christian nations, all we can hope to do is pick up the pieces when it is over. If Christian nations get involved the muslims will turn on them, they won't thank the Christians for getting involved, they will say the crusaders have come again unite against a common enemy and it doesn't matter that secular states are involved, for muslims that is even worse, that they are opposed by Kaffir, unbelievers

Quote:

---

it has nothing to do with Christians or Christian nations

---

...
That's what they told the Copts in Egypt. That's what they are telling the embattled Syrian Christians in Maaloula (one of the few places in the world where residents still speak Aramaic).
And who is threatening them ? No ,not Assad . It's those freedom fighters the FSA .
Syria's Christian minority is roughly 10 percent of the population . They have not had a great time under the Assad regime. But if jihadistan wins they will be ethnically cleansed.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paraclete

for once in her life Palin talks sense

Opinion: Sarah Palin's offensive remarks about Syria - CNN.com

Palin has echoed the sentiments of many of us on Syria. "Let Allah sort it out". A reference to allowing the God that these people worship to intervene and choose sides in the conflict. Any suggestion that she thinks Allah and Jesus are the same person should be put aside since no follower of Islam acknowledges Jesus as God. But she is right the US should stay out of the conflict irrespective of what international lines have been crossed. As long as the conflicit stays in Syria then everyone else stay out

---

Who gives a damn what the Pedophile worshipers are offended by... they get offended the fact that Jews, Christians and Atheists get to do as they wish on the same planet they infest.

Personally I think she summed it up well...

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smoothy

Who gives a damn what the Pedophile worshipers are offended by...they get offended the fact that Jews, Christians and Atheists get to do as they wish on the same planet they infest.

Personally I think she summed it up well....

---

I see you and I agree, the Muslims are doing the rest of us a favour by keeping their war to themselves. While they are fighting each other they are not fighting us, this seems to have been forgotten. How can the US fight al qaeda all over the world and support them in Syria. Doesn't make sense, why are they looking for an excuse to attack Assard? Don't they realise that if the rebels win those WMD will be in the hands of extremeists

Quote:

---

Who gives a damn what the Pedophile worshipers are

---

The Catholic Church?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by NeedKarma

The Catholic Church?

---

That spiel is rather old... especially when you consider Muslims treat their daughters like livestock and make deals to marry them off... usually when they are sill children. And many times actually do it when they are still children.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by paraclete

I see you and I agree, the Muslims are doing the rest of us a favour by keeping their war to themselves. while they are fighting each other they are not fighting us, this seems to have been forgotten. how can the US fight al qaeda all over the world and support them in Syria. doesn't make sense, why are they looking for an excuse to attack Assard? don't they realise that if the rebels win those WMD will be in the hands of extremeists

---

There is all the reason in the world to believe some of them already are in their hands.

They have been at each others throats since the earliest recorded history... basically early in the old testiment.

If anyone thinks the inbred nature of the troglodytes will change overnight... I have a lot of property on the Martian Surface I'd like to sell them.

Quote:

---

That spiel is rather old...

---

It's still happening.

Pope pulls ambassador to Dominican Republic amid abuse allegations - CNN.com

Yeah and lots of Atheists are doing it too... where is your outrage with them... or is it just your anti-religion agenda that gets in the way?

Quote:

---

or is it just your anti-religion agenda

---

Just following your anti-religion agenda.

You need a fresh repertoire... the old one is overused.

Not sure how we got from a group spine removal op at the White House to child molestation, but anyway. So how's that "smart power" working out?

Rumsfield is making the Fox rounds punking the president, but he never talks about or gets questions about what he and the right wing emperor did in his day.

American poison gas for Saddam, courtesy of Rumsfeld - DeepJournal

The Reagan-Saddam Connection: "We Create These Monsters And When It

Not to mention they wrote a law forbidding him to engage in a war, yet he did it anyway.

Dude, everyone is punking the president and his super smart regime, except those Dems who think we need to have this war that really isn't a war to help Obama save face. Did you miss that group spine removal question from yesterday?

What I have observed is opposition by both parties and the resolution passed in the senate leaning toward a lot more than a simple one time punishing strike against Assad. The memory of Iraq lingers large, as well it should.

Quote:

---

Not sure how we got from a group spine removal op at the White House to child molestation

---

see smoothy's constant pedophilia posts. It's like an obsession.

The President punked himself... acting like a petulant kid that had his favorite toy taken away from him at the summit.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

Didja hear that Rush Limprod BELIEVES Obama gassed the rebels??? Really...

Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

---

The meeting in question took place at Antakya, Hatay Province in Turkey between Aug 13-15 . Involved was a Turkish intel officer ,various ranking members of the FSA (and of the alphabet soup rebel groups ) ,a Brit intel officer , representatives of Qatar ,and a CIA agent sat in on the meeting . A ranking rebel informed the group of an imminent escalation in the fighting due to “a war-changing development” which would, in turn, lead to a US-led bombing of Syria.” This was less than a week before the cw attack.

Was the emperor directly involved ? I doubt it .He appears to be the reluctant warrior ,much like LBJ was before the Gulf of Tonkin ruse.

Natural gas Pipeline in Syria ( why did Quatar give the rebel $3 billion dollars ?)

Guest Post: Is The US Going To War With Syria Over A Natural Gas Pipeline? | Zero Hedge

"Could it be because Qatar is the largest exporter of liquid natural gas in the world and Assad won't let them build a natural gas pipeline through Syria? Of course. Qatar wants to install a puppet regime in Syria that will allow them to build a pipeline which will enable them to sell lots and lots of natural gas to Europe. "

Well, it turns out that Saudi Arabia intends to install their own puppet government in Syria which will allow the Saudis to control the flow of energy through the region.

On the other side, Russia very much prefers the Assad regime for a whole bunch of reasons. One of those reasons is that Assad is helping to block the flow of natural gas out of the Persian Gulf into Europe, thus ensuring higher profits for Gazprom.

Now the United States is getting directly involved in the conflict. If the U.S. is successful in getting rid of the Assad regime, it will be good for either the Saudis or Qatar (and possibly for both), and it will be really bad for Russia. This is a strategic geopolitical conflict about natural resources, religion and money, and it really has nothing to do with chemical weapons at all.

Don't forget the deal that Tehran ,Baghad and Damascus made 2 years ago (about the beginning of the civil war give or take a couple weeks ) to build a pipeline through Syria from the same South Pars field that Qatar and Iran share. And don't forget my previous link where a Saudi Prince sat down with Putin and threatened to either assist them in over throwing Assad in return for Russia's continued control of the supply of energy into Europe ;or they would unleash jihadistan at the Moscow Olympics.

Sounds like Iraq all over again and the secret deals that oil for medicine covered up. Many European nations wanted a deal on Iraqi oil. And the French had a deal in Libya. Lots of intrigue in that part of the world over resources and money.

Now consider the fact Putin punked Obama and he's reacting like a child that's had his feelings hurt into the mix...

He has started a big debate, by rattling his own saber.