Class? More like lack of class... the man probably eats with his fingers and doesn't know why anyone would have more than one spoon, one fork, and one knife on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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Class? More like lack of class... the man probably eats with his fingers and doesn't know why anyone would have more than one spoon, one fork, and one knife on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
They seem to have a problem with collecting tax in various parts of Europe and it goes hand in glove with financial failure
They just are telling the governments a very popular Italian gesture...
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Spelled out...
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In America we have the much more subtle one finger salute.
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We learn it shortly after birth.
Apparently you didn't let that line soak in long enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'm not going to debate with smoothy regarding the characteristics of a person he considers an inferiorQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You mean like you Australians have considered the aborigines..Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
There is a vast difference between an educated person who has attained high office and a person who wants to live in the stone age. They are not inferior, they are misguided, they think being smashed out of their brain is a solution to their problems, maybe it is, they die earlier despite our efforts to prevent itQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I doubt you have any idea of how to deal with a people who want to talk endlessly around a point, on the other hand, maybe you do
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Originally Posted by paraclete
I am familiar enough with what they were forced to do "in their best interests" including taking kids from their families.
Muslims want to like in the 7th century... how are they any different? You don't do it to them.
Give us time we did it to everyone not just aboriginees
Personally given the option of living as an Aborigine... or under Muslim oppression stuck forever in the 7th century..Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'd pick living as an Aborigine
Give us time, we do it to everyone, I am part of a stolen generation so don't preach to me
Recently it was suggested that aboriginal kids be removed to boarding schools, the aboriginal community was in favour of this because they recognise that the only way their kids will rise is to be out of the community where welfare and disadvantage is endemic. There is no clawing their way out of the slums for these people the jobs are hundreds of miles away or have impossible entry requirements.
You cannot sit in Washington or New York and think you have solutions for a stone age people, you don't even have solutions for your own people
Yes beachcombing is more fun than wasting your time in a madrassa, but remember in either case you are going nowhere that is why so many pay dearly to catch a boat to this placeQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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Originally Posted by paraclete
I'm holding a mirror up right now facing your direction in case you don't see it.
And incidentally... many of those cases the kids weren't removed with the parents permission or blessing.
And even then.. education is worthless unless they really want to do anything useful with it... and I'm betting they aren't anywhere near as enthusiastic about it as you higher evolved people that want to force it on them for their own good.
And there are more parallels that you may want to believe among the native Americans here... anyone that lives near a reservation can attest to that.
And what do you see? Not me
The mirror is facing your way... I'm standing behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
And we have far bigger illegal immigrations problems than you have... because unlike you... we have far more routes available than just boats or airplanes.
Yes fences are hard to build, oceans are so convenient. You have a problem because you don't enforce laws, we have a problem because of your wars. Our problem is small but still very costly for a small nation, our illegal problems costs us at least $1 billion a year, not to mention the waste of resources and all to rescue ignorant people from their own foolishnessQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
They don't like the way we treat them either, but lawbreakers they are.
This problem is not like our indigenous problem which also costs us Billions each year. We would leave them alone but for the doogooders offshore and they could beachcomb to their hearts content
Really.. thats a pretty pathetic excuse... our wars...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Incidentally the last war we had that was in your back yard was WW2... and we didn't start that one.
My answer to this crap got lost somewhereQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I seem to hear Burl Ives singing down in the valley
Your wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have sent large numbers of refugees and illegal migrants our way, they insist on drowning themselves on flimsy boats and looking after them costs us over $1 billion a year no small cost for a small nation
So help their leaky boats sink... you feed the sealife and you eliminate the immigration issue pretty easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
And also.. WE didn't start anything in Iraq or Afghanistan... they started it... you need to review where you are getting your information from.
I'm curious about how the Afghanistands aare fleeing their country in boats... being it's a landlocked nation...
Than and its an aweful long trip from Iraq in a leaky boat bypassing a lot of other countries along the way... exactly what makes that our fault?
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Well it seems your map isn't wide enough but why would I be surprised that an american had a truncated view of the world. What happens is displaced people gather in camps in neighbouring countries, where they learn of a nation far from war and strife, perhaps they have relatives there. They migrate by land or aircraft, who can say, since money doesn't appear to be an issue, to Indonesia where they seek passage on a leaky boat to nowhere ultimately being plucked from the Indian Ocean into the waiting arms of our immigration department who will do their best to persuade them that they should go back.
Why are they displaced, because when you prosecuted your war against Afghanistan and Iraq you gave no thought to what would happen to the population
Obviously Democrats in Congress have nothing better to do than focus on important issues...
How about a compromise? The Redskins keep their name and change their logo to a peanut. Nuts would be an appropriate mascot for DC.Quote:
Lawmakers introduce bill to void 'Redskins' trademark
A group of House Democrats on Wednesday introduced a bill that would prevent the term "Redskins" from being trademarked, a move intended to put pressure on the Washington football club to change its name.
The Non-Disparagement of American Indians in Trademark Registrations Act of 2013 is co-sponsored by Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.), and comes days after a federal trademark panel heard arguments over whether the team name was a slur. The panel could potentially overturn the team's trademark, which would erode profits by allowing other businesses to sell apparel and goods featuring the Redskins name.
Earlier this month, Norton said the team "should consider" a new name.
“Nobody would let a comparable name to blacks stand," Norton said, adding that she thinks the team will eventually be forced to make a change.
“I certainly do. But nothing happens without pushing and shoving... I am a fan of the Redskins. I’m just not a fan of their name," Norton said.
The trademark pushes come amid renewed calls in Washington politics and media for the team to change the name. Earlier this year, D.C. mayor Vincent Gray said the team could be forced to "work with" the city council on a name change if they wanted to build a new stadium within the District.
The team has not publicly commented on challenges to the Redskins trademark, but last month began posting articles to the team website that highlighting high schools that also use the moniker.
Read more: Lawmakers introduce bill to void 'Redskins' trademark - The Hill's In The Know
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I wonder if the Secret Service people who walk Obama's dog are going to get furloughed ?
The grounds keeper probably doesn't have secret service with him, just a pooper scooper.
Hello again,
I must say your expectation of the SAME level of service with a greatly reduced budget is mindboggling... But, you've blown my mind before..
excon
I would say you have never heard of productivity,it is marvellous what happens when a threat emerges, particularly in governmentQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Service ? I'm talking trimming 2 % bloat from a $ multi-trillion budget .There should be NO service impact. Most of the government could do it just by tightening up it's procurement procedures.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Yes like they have got enough stuff they don't need any more for yonks!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The taxpayer has to adjust their spending downward every time their income is reduced because of price increases, pay cuts, reduced hours or tax increases...
The government can learn to do it too.
Yes begin by doing away with cost plus contracts
The bigger problem is they don't believe in zero baseline budgets... what they consider a "baseline" really isn't... its last years amount plus an automatic increase... so even when they claim no increase... they are telling lies abut it, because there IS an increase..Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I don't understand how any organisation can effectively manage without zero based budgetting. It forces each item to be examined for its worth and necessity
Yes. The so called cuts are nothing more than reductions in the rate of increase. Even while this is happening the Federal Government is hiring .Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
That's right because nothing is increasing at the rate of assumed inflation except the inflated salaries of the fat catsQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
And now you see the root problem with the government spending... they have lied to themselves for so long they actaually can't see things for the way they really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
The private world and the business world live in reality of a zero baseline budget... really is a zero baseline budget, you don't add automatic pay raises you haven't gotten yet and claim that's not an increase in your income at all..
I have known the root of the problem for a long time and it isn't lack of budgeting but a lack of discipline among politiciansQuote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
It's a combination... and the fact they pretend that increaces aren't increases to make the real increases look smaller to the poorly informed public... causes and allows it to compound.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Run your household like that and you will end up bankrupt... run a business like that and it will end up bankrupt...
Yet Polititions seem to think its not only normal but right for them to do because after all... its only someone else's tax money...
The government is not a household, or a business. The business model is broken, and corrupt, and that makes households broke and helpless. Government is under siege by those bent on destroying it, to further their own aim of cheap labor, higher profits, and the power to exploit the rest of the globe for mo'money.
You got that backwards... its the Government that's trying to grab more and more power they were never constitutionally allowed to have... EVER before.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Your government has been corrupt for a long time - both sides.
Dude, for once I have to agree with Smoothy.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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