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  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:15 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve;

    Well, we got our Michael Moors and Bill Mahrs, and you got your Ted Nugents, and Chuck Norris's.

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    excon

    I'm still not tom, and you can have your morons.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Wondergirl was especially thinking about the egocentric values that WHITE actors and directors et al. are subtly shoving onto our youth.

    Ah, so the black actors and directors are innocent.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:20 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Ah, so the black actors and directors are innocent.

    I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

    For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:33 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

    For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.

    So in other words ,they responded to customer desires. That doesn't sound like the WHITE producers are deciding anything except to satisfy the customer's demands .
  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:36 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    so in other words ,they responded to customer desires. That doesn't sound like the WHITE producers are deciding anything except to satisfy the customer's demands .

    But it does show that consumers (and many of these are 50 and older) do have some power. Unfortunately, most of the younger consumers are sheeple that happily swallow what they are being fed.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 10:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I didn't say that. The preponderance of r-rated sex and bathroom humor has now become the norm (it's now pg-rated or tv14) and much of it is being encouraged by whites.

    For instance, my beloved soap was canceled about two years ago. It's now available online on XFINITYy/hulu. The WHITE producers (now not limited by rules and regs) decided to lace the soap with lots of hot sex and four-letter words. The audience's enraged outcry was huge. The soap is back to its fairly modest self.

    Didn't you read the lyrics I linked to? Have you never seen self-absorbed black athletes making an a$$ of themselves while adoring youth hang on their every move and buy their $200 sneakers. Those young blacks aren't watching your beloved soap, and as tom said that other stuff is in demand. It wouldn't be that way or it would be less so were it not for the "anything goes" culture cultivated by the left.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 11:04 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Didn't you read the lyrics I linked to?

    No, I didn't. And most people don't. It's a corner market. I'm speaking about what is the in-your-face part of American TV and movie culture.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 11:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    I don't hear Carrie Underwood rattling my windows and shaking my car every day. What the kids (a most impressionable corner market) I'm referring to watch and listen to is what's relevant here. Have you watched MTV lately?
  • Jul 15, 2013, 11:13 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Have you watched MTV lately?

    No, the basic TV stations and FOX. That's enough to rattle my chains.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 11:19 AM
    tomder55
    This is rapidly going back to the hoodie issue. And yes ,like the sneakers and the pants that hang below the waist, the hoodie is part of the uniform and becomes part of the identity of the person wheter they intend it or not . The same was true in the 1950s with the black jacket and greaser look ,or the 1960s and tie dyed look identified you .
  • Jul 15, 2013, 11:23 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    No, the basic TV stations and FOX. That's enough to rattle my chains.

    If this were a white kid shooting up a school everyone would be blaming violent video games and such. I don't see anyone blaming violent TV, movies and music - much less any national outrage - over a black kid shooting a 13 month old white baby in its stroller.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 12:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    On the other hand time to recognize a hero.

    Lancaster teen Temar Boggs hailed as a hero in 5-year-old's abduction - News
  • Jul 15, 2013, 02:02 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Even prime-time sitcoms aren't sacred any longer. I'm so glad my kids are adults and I don't have to monitor their TV watching. Whatever happened to I Love Lucy and The Ed Sullivan Show??? Sex and bathroom humor are everywhere -- or am I just getting old? (Sorry -- I'm off topic but had to vent.)

    You also have to give a nod to shows like Red Skelton and ground breaking ones like Sanford and Son as well as All in the Family.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 02:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    You also have to give a nod to shows like Red Skelton and ground breaking ones like Sanford and Son as well as All in the Family.

    Definitely -- and many more of that ilk.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 03:57 PM
    talaniman
    Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News

    There seems to be different standards of the stand your ground laws in Florida.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 05:38 PM
    earl237
    That case is really unfair. I was shocked that it happened in Florida, you expect that in Canada or Britain. It's an obvious double standard, if someone who is poor or a minority defends themselves, prosecutors love to pick on them. If someone is white and a wealthy, prominent member of their community, they won't even be charged. I think everyone should have an equal right to defend themselves. Reminds me of that saying "you're innocent until proven broke."
  • Jul 15, 2013, 06:59 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Fla. woman Marissa Alexander gets 20 years for "warning shot": Did she stand her ground? - Crimesider - CBS News

    There seems to be different standards of the stand your ground laws in Florida.

    Doesn't appear to be a different standard. I agree with the judge. They had a means to leave without violence. The getting the gun and coming back is what changed the outcome as far as the law was concerned.
  • Jul 15, 2013, 06:59 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    That case is really unfair. I was shocked that it happened in Florida, you expect that in Canada or Britain. It's an obvious double standard, if someone who is poor or a minority defends themselves, prosecutors love to pick on them. If someone is white and a wealthy, prominent member of their community, they won't even be charged. I think everyone should have an equal right to defend themselves. Reminds me of that saying "you're innocent until proven broke."



    Why is it unfair?
  • Jul 15, 2013, 07:04 PM
    earl237
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Why is it unfair?

    Is that a rhetorical question? Did you read the Marissa Alexander case?
  • Jul 15, 2013, 07:08 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by earl237 View Post
    Is that a rhetorical question? Did you read the Marissa Alexander case?

    Yes I read what I could. They wanted money to get the deposition. But according to what was stated the woman left and came back with a gun. There is a big difference between eminent danger and someone threatening with a gun.


    Quote from article:

    In August 2011, a judge rejected a motion by Alexander's attorney to grant her immunity under the "stand your ground" law. According to the judge's order, "there is insufficient evidence that the Defendant reasonably believed deadly force was needed to prevent death or great bodily harm to herself," and that the fact that she came back into the home, instead of leaving out the front or back door "is inconsistent with a person who is in genuine fear for her life."
  • Jul 15, 2013, 08:43 PM
    talaniman
    20 years in prison for firing a warning shot to get rid of an abuser isn't standing your ground, but shooting and killing someone is? Same prosecutor I may add as the Martin case.

    Quote:

    Alexander's father, Raoul Jenkins, told Crimesider that his daughter had had a licensed gun for years and the two had been to the shooting range together.

    "If Marissa wanted to shoot anybody she could," Jenkins says. "But that was not her intent. Her intent was to diffuse the situation without anyone getting hurt or killed."
  • Jul 16, 2013, 03:09 AM
    tomder55
    Angela Corey is a moron who should be disbarred . She had the option of a number of lesser charges ;but decided to vindictively play hardball against Alexander because she refused a plea deal. She prosecuted Zimmerman on strictly political considerations ;bypassed the Grand Jury process ;and went with charges that were almost impossible to prove.

    Neither case was/is a stand your ground case. It is absurd to sentence Alexander for 20 years ;but that is a result of silly mandatory sentencing guidelines.

    The fact that she could've left is not relevant in my view because the testimony was unclear if she could've left through the garage(which Gray claimed was locked ). So she had to reenter the house to "escape through the back door " . So the real question is to what extent did she feel threatened by Gray ? She had to force her way out of the bathroom just to retrieve her gun. The unallowed evidence was Gray's history of women abuse. This was not a clear cut case by any means . It's he said /she said.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 04:06 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    20 years in prison for firing a warning shot to get rid of an abuser isn't standing your ground, but shooting and killing someone is? Same prosecutor I may add as the Martin case.

    So your saying that since she didn't know what the law was or how to handle herself with a firearm then she deserves a pass? I understand she passed on a plea bargin that would have been much less. The fact that she fired the gun is what lead to her troubles without using it to hit her intended target. Sure 20 years is harsh. But this is something this person created.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 05:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    Still wondering where the national outrage is over a black kid shooting a 13 month old white baby.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 05:35 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Still wondering where the national outrage is over a black kid shooting a 13 month old white baby.

    If it doesn't interest Al Sharpton there will be no "outrage " .
  • Jul 16, 2013, 06:40 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    if it doesn't interest Al Sharpton there will be no "outrage " .

    Black on black or black on white violence doesn't give anyone the opportunity to tweet things like this:
  • Jul 16, 2013, 06:49 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    So your saying that since she didn't know what the law was or how to handle herself with a firearm then she deserves a pass? I understand she passed on a plea bargin that would have been much less. The fact that she fired the gun is what lead to her troubles without using it to hit her intended target. Sure 20 years is harsh. But this is something this person created.

    She did know what the law was but the judge denied immunity, she did know how to use a firearm, and chose a warning shot rather than injury or death, the intent was clear get him to leave, rather than kill. How is killing someone after losing the fight any different from warning off an abuser bent on beating your ? Had Zimmerman stayed in his car and waited for the cops we wouldn't be here so how is that killing not of his making?

    The law is written to expand where you can kill a person beyond your own home and opens up for shoot first, think later, and the standards for reasonable fear of life is arbitrary, and undefined.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 06:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Or this:
    Female jogger killed by Amtrak train near White Rock - British Columbia - CBC News

    Trains have been killing white people for ages now - where's the outrage!
  • Jul 16, 2013, 06:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Or this:
    Female jogger killed by Amtrak train near White Rock - British Columbia - CBC News

    Trains have been killing white people for ages now - where's the outrage!?

    Has there been some brewing outrage over racist white or "white Hispanic" trains murdering black people?
  • Jul 16, 2013, 07:28 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    She did know what the law was but the judge denied immunity, she did know how to use a firearm, and chose a warning shot rather than injury or death, the intent was clear get him to leave, rather than kill. How is killing someone after losing the fight any different from warning off an abuser bent on beating your ? Had Zimmerman stayed in his car and waited for the cops we wouldn't be here so how is that killing not of his making?

    The law is written to expand where you can kill a person beyond your own home and opens up for shoot first, think later, and the standards for reasonable fear of life is arbitrary, and undefined.

    These cases are not related and comparing them is a stretch. The only common denominator is the idiot prosecutor . Anyone who thinks she isn't an incompetent political opportunist has not examined her history. Alan Dershewitz has been all over her case for months now.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 07:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Has there been some brewing outrage over racist white or "white Hispanic" trains murdering black people?
    Irrelevant.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 07:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Irrelevant.

    Yep, just like your stupid question.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:23 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Yep, just like your stupid question.
    "Margaret Thatcher used to say, ' I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.." ."(Sarah Palin)
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    "Margaret Thatcher used to say, ' I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.." ."(Sarah Palin)

    You always brighten my day, too.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:42 AM
    NeedKarma
    Where did I attack you personally?
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:46 AM
    smoothy
    Treyvon got everything he deserved. And the world is a little bit better as a result.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Where did I attack you personally?

    Just grow up, dude.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:48 AM
    NeedKarma
    See? You get caught up in your own lies all the time.
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:49 AM
    NeedKarma
    George Zimmerman: It Was God's Plan For Me To Kill Trayvon Martin

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=494275467323007
  • Jul 16, 2013, 08:55 AM
    smoothy
    You think it was GIA the Earth Mothers plan?

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