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Hello again, dad:Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
We agree. The government DOES have an interest in stopping us from smoking cigarettes... Over the last 25 years, they've been VERY successful at it too,. At least HALF of the 50 million Americans who smoked, quit.
And, we did all that WITHOUT banning cigarettes, or putting a single person in jail.
excon
I really think it depends on what you see as banning and non arrest. They did ban the sale in places and also restrict where product use could occur. They eliminated vending machines and took away private rights of business to run as they wish. Also placing fines and threat of arrest on persons not wanting to follow "thier" rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And on top of all that it just amazes me how they keep raising taxes on cigarettes and cliam its for health costs then decry how much a smoker costs the system. All the while wondering why they are losing revenue.
But that's our goobermint at work.
Hello again, dad:Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
I don't see the campaign against tobacco even remotely similar to the drug war. Yes, there were government imposed restrictions.. I don't agree with ANY of them. What I think did the trick, was first and foremost, the TRUTH was exposed that cigarettes cause cancer. Then that truth was broadcast across the nation, tirelessly. That, PR campaign, in my view, had the biggest impact with the least restrictions.
If we simply told the truth about drugs, we'd have a similar result.
excon
The problem with the truth is how you digest it. What works for me doesn't mean it works for you. I heard a new anti smoking campaign going now that claims 1 cigarette can kill you. Ive never seen nor heard that in my lifetime.
And even when the truth is available people tend to ignore it for their own interests. Ive seen the list and it can be found online for what goes into making crack. I can't believe any person in their right mind would smoke or otherwise do anything that was made with battery acid. Go figure.
There is no real war on drugs. Its simply a control issue and a way to trample rights. Some states tax drugs that are illegal. Again go figure.
King County bans public e-cigarette smoking
You have GOT to be kidding me.Quote:
The King County Board of Health passed a controversial proposal Thursday that bans the public use of electronic cigarettes, despite protests that the battery-powered, nicotine-delivery sticks emit no second-hand smoke and are often used for harm reduction.
The measure is not a complete ban on e-cigarettes. Rather, it prohibits e-cigarette smoking in the same places where real smoking is forbidden by the state, such as restaurants, bars and workplaces.
But the state's tobacco smoking ban, adopted in 2006, was based on the fact that second-hand smoke causes cancer and other diseases. The rationale behind King County's e-cig ban was a fear of eroding "social norms."
Health officials reasoned that the fake smokes - which emit a less-smelly, combustion-free vapor - are so similar to real smokes that they may cause people to think it's OK to smoke in public. And that may lead to more nicotine addiction and second-hand smoke, officials said.
"By returning smoking to the public eye, public e-cigarette use threatens to undermine the social norming impact" of the smoking ban, testified Scott Neal, manager of the tobacco prevention program for Public Health -- Seattle & King County.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yeah... A cop saw me smokin one... He threw me on the ground and told me he was going to "beat the e-smoke outta me, homey..." I don't know why he called me homey.
excon
I've been wondering about this ever since the faux outrage began, how in God's name did this administration manage to get an absurd ban on a perfectly legal product in such a short time? I'm speaking of Four Loko.
As the video points out and I wondered, are they going to come after your rum and Coke next? Make you take a breathalyzer test if you go for coffee after 9:00 p.m.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yeah, banning drugs... Those bastards... What's next? Pot?
excon
As if Schmucky, the guy that pressed for this ban and pushes NY wine sales isn't a hypocrite? I bet he's never had a cup of coffee after one of his wine and sandwich commutes to DC.
You have an unlikely ally, Pat Robertson.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hehe, not the spokesman anyone would want for any issue. He's a little cuckoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Why are you always hung up on the messenger instead of the message?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
LOL! Your post was about the messenger. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Steve why the Colts insigne ?
And the message he sent.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yeah, the old codger finally came around... I don't know what's gotten into him. How can somebody go his whole life thinking that people should be in JAIL for smoking pot, and then change his mind. It's mind boggling...
I'm a funny guy... Every single crime that I think somebody should be in jail for, they actually, really SHOULD be in jail for.
excon
I'm a little late to the party but you defintely need to get out more if you don't see obese kids anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The E-Cig ban is ridiculous and everything else you guys are talking about I have no knowledge on.
P.S. I dislike Peyton "6.6sec 40" Manning
I live in a neighborhood with kids, pass a high school every morning on the way to work, see dozens and dozens at church every week... heck, I have 40 something nieces and nephews. I still can't think of a fat kid among the bunch. I should know, I'm me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITstudent2006
I have no idea what "6.6sec 40" refers to, but I'm a huge fan of the guy.Quote:
P.S. I dislike Peyton "6.6sec 40" Manning
It was an inside joke, tom. But, since my Cowboys suck so bad I might as well pull for someone else to win it all. I see the Gnats rolled over again, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
For you to think there's not an obesity issue just because you don't see "fat kids" is ridiculous. Just because I've never seen a Roll's Royce doesn't mean they don't exist.
THe 6.6sec 40 is referring to his 40 time. Obviously he doesn't run a 6.6 but I am referring to how slow the guy is. It makes me laugh when I watch him (or Eli) try to scramble for a few yeards. :D
Peyton is one of the few QBs I consider a must have to have a successful fantasy team .In the last decade he has taken his team to the playoff round 8 times. This weekend he will probably lead the Colts to their 9th.
For you to believe I "think there's not an obesity issue" is also ridiculous. I was replying to a specific post and relaying what I see in MY area and circle of influence. I know and see a lot of kids and I can't think of a fat one among them, so someone is doing a pretty good job of keeping their children healthy. If they're obese where you are I can't help that, but I don't deny there's a problem. There is however a problem with the nanny state running amok.Quote:
Originally Posted by ITstudent2006
Hey, when you've thrown for 4,655 completions, 54,564 yards and 397 TD's, who needs to run? He does have 17 rushing touchdowns though. :)Quote:
THe 6.6sec 40 is referring to his 40 time. Obviously he doesn't run a 6.6 but I am referring to how slow the guy is. It makes me laugh when I watch him (or Eli) try to scramble for a few yeards. :D
I had a great QB in Rodgers, an every week defense in the Steelers and a great TE... I just couldn't get anything else going. I haven't checked yet today, how's your game going?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Hello again, Steve:
As long as the thread has been stolen, I'm on board... How about we ALL form a fantasy baseball league, and compete against each other?
I'm not allowed to WIN money in the stupid provincial state that I live in, but I'd LOVE to kick your collective a$$'s.
Ok, back to serious stuff.
excon
I had a solid team to start the year and completely revamped my team with a 10 player trade. Still made it to the semifinals. Didn't help my starting RB (one of them) and my star TE are out until the playoffs. I too had the Steelers. Very solid defense to have on your side.
I agree that Peyton doesn't need to worry about running. There's no denying that he's a stud. But... that doesn't mean I have to like him. Now that I think about it, I don't like the Colts, not just Peyton.
(mayb e it's because my H.S. Uniform were exact reps. Of theirs. Logo and everything. We just turned the logo sideways to look like a F'ed up "C") ;)
It was my thread, I guess I can steal it. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
I tried that with football and only got 2 takers. Last year my niece kicked our a$$es and this year it could be a ladies league again if tom can't beat my favorite piano player. I'll think about it though, as much as I know about fantasy baseball you probably would kick mine.
IT, I may be losing to tom... but I'm kicking some a$$ in other leagues. :D
I agree. I love the sport but I have never played fantasy baseball. I would have loved a fantasy football league though. (damn it, I'm always late to the party)
Punctuality is over-rated! ;)
Hello again,
I don't know nuthin about baseball. I'm a perennial loser. What I LIKE about it, though, is there's stuff to do every day - not just once a week.
ESPN has leagues for, what, $29.95? Yeah, I know. It's FOOTBALL time... But, my hawks ain't going to beat St. Louis.
excon
I do the baseball if we can get takers. There are free leagues so that is not an issue.
Don't give up on the Hawks . But I do have issues with a 7-9 team getting in the playoffs.
Steve I'm almost 50 pts up going into the final week. Hopefully that is the cushion I need.
50 points is a pretty good cushion.
IT, we may get an opening next year, who knows?
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I love the sport but I have never played fantasy baseball.
2 types of leagues. There are the head to head ones that are similar to fantasy football ;and the more complex Rotisserie league baseball where specific stats are tracked daily and accumulated for an end of the season total. Each stat category is totalled and each fantasy team is ranked based on their strength of the individual stat category. If you are weak in something like HRs you make roster moves to strengthen your teams stats and hopefully not weaken another strength.Quote:
I don't know nuthin about baseball
Hello again, tom:
Oh, I know about fantasy baseball. I played in a couple of leagues. The rotisserie ones. When I said that I didn't know anything about baseball, it's true. I NEVER traded for the right guy at the right time, and always kept losers too long.
Plus, I drafted a lot of Mariners. BIG mistake. You know I'm a sucker for the underdog.
excon
I'll take King Felix in the 1st round if he's available.
Congratulations on winning the big one yesterday... and condolences on the other Gnats missing the playoffs. They should have been playing in the NFC West this year.
Hello Steve:
Thanks. Yup. Champs with a losing record... At least THAT'S a first... Somehow it don't FEEL like we're champions...
excon
Actually I was congratulating tom for being king of our fantasy football league, but congrats to you and the Seahawks, too... they won it by winning one more game than my 6-10 Cowboys.
Lori is a great player . I barely hung on to the 1st week lead.
Told you she was tough to beat. She's been whipping up on my teams for years.
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