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Hello again, smoothy:Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I don't care that you call me a socialist. I'm not. Not even close. But, I didn't know the term "Teabagger" was offensive. I, frankly, thought you embraced it. Nonetheless, I apologize. I don't need to attack you personally. I'm fine whipping your butt with my words.
excon
PS> Is birther offensive too? I got to know the rules...
A tale of 2 rallies (graphic) - one left, one right.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The AP caught on to another detail, premiums could rise 17 percent for young adults and "will pinch many people in their 20s and early 30s who are struggling to start or advance their careers with the highest unemployment rate in 26 years."Quote:
What is missing is details .
Birther is offensive... but I'm not one of those either... I just want to know why nobody I have even heard of or consider impartial... or even better, doesn't even like the guy... can say... I've seen it, it exists and isn't being kept under armed guard. I'd be happy with that. Nancy Pelosi has ZERO credibility... I want republicans to vouch for it... they have no interest in spreading a lie if one in fact has been made on the left.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
There is a big difference between wanting to see it, wanting to know why it a such a big State Secret... and from arguing no way, no how was he ever born here.
Why are his records secret? The only possible answer is they expose lie, upon lie about him... otherwise he would have released them... as every other president has before him. Not JUST the birth certificate. Particularly given the racial, anti-american, and anti-christian contents of his TWO autobiographies. Which get a free ride by the drive-by media.
And I'll accept the apology. I made that explanation on open forum and not via PM as I did think that you and others could very well have been unaware of its true meaning. Its not exactly common knowledge. I only found out about it 2 years ago... when a gay guy I know used it in an unrelated conversation... I had to ask him to explain what he was saying. Because his actually comment made no sense to me... until he explained.
And it is even worse than the "N" word is to blacks... they at least use that word among themselves frequently... BUT.. We conservatives however... NEVER use that word among ourselves.
It may NOT be an offensive term inside the Gay community... but outside of it, it IS a very offensive term. And I am a straight individual who is NOT gay, or part of that community.
Hello again, smoothy:
Ok, then stop calling the Democratic party the Democrat party.
excon
They aren't Democrats any more?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I never saw another president's records -- but then he was never asked to produce them.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Would you believe any records are the real deal if they are produced (and they have been, by the way)?
I'm glad you clarified that.Quote:
And I am a straight individual who is NOT gay, or part of that community.
I find it hilarious that no one knows about this term. I have been using this term since I was 12 to make fun of my friends and I am 32 now. When they first said it on the news about the tea party I couldn't stop laughing cause I knew what it meant and then realized the news and no one else really knew what it meant. I still giggle every time someone says it. You can even use an emoticon with the number 3 in front of it to give you a visual!!
I stand corrected. Thank you. Wasn't it nice of the tax protesters to provide their opponents a fresh epithet? I'll leave this one alone from now on.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Bush had his out (both of them)... Clinton had his out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
The best advocate for anything... is from someone NOT friendly to them.
If Sean Hannity, or Rush Limbaugh, saw them and said they exist... I'd trust them because they have ZERO interest in saying otherwise.
Conversely... do you trust the used car salesman that trying to hawk a car to you... or a salesman that came knocking on your door promoting his goods as the best there is?
So why do you trust a politician when he says, "Trust me, you'll want this".
Or nancy Pelosi... " We need to pass the Bill so we can find out whats in it"
DOn't believe she said that... here is the video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoE1R-xH5To
It's the kids who play Halo who picked it up more than anyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catsmine
That is of the funniest and saddest things I have read here.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Do you trust snopes?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
Even if President Obama had not been born in this country, he would still be a citizen because his mother was. That is U.S. law.
No... because I've proven snopes to be inacurate in at least one situation in the past. (no I forget what... I do have a life after all) And they have a very clear Pro-Obama bias. They aren't even pretending to take a neutral stance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
And because regardless of what THEY may post on that website... No independent or Republican has vouched as to actually having seen the document in question I trust. Just saying they accept he has one is proof of nothing... they never saw it. You have to produce your drivers license if you get pulled over by the Police... your word you have one isn't enough.
Not saying it doesn't exist... but if nobody has seen it or any of his other records... WHY should everyone trust his word on it... he is far from trustworthy. His list of broken promisses would fill a book and it continues to grow daily.
He did keep one... he wanted to "Spread the wealth around" and he is going to steal even more from those who work hardest, to give to those that work the least. Like a true Trotsky follower. No wonder businesses are loath to hire people or make investments so he can take even more.
After all, again... why the great secrecy behind nearly everything in his past.
The man would never qualify for a legitimate low level security clearance with his known background much less a high level one. And yeah... I do know more than a little about THAt topic.
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Its clearly noticeable to anyopne that doesn't get a shiver up their leg in his presence like several main stream media types publicly commented on in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Oh, they DO make an attempt to appear more neutral, unlike CBS... but it does still show through. I'll give them credit for making that attempt.
Its all about the words chosen, and how they are used... nuances in other words.
Its subtle... but not overt in their case. Katie Couric on the other hand is almost pornographic in her obvios love for the man. Compare it to how she treated Sarah Palin... and what words she uses... and what she choses to ignore.
And yeah... the news writers share in that blame. News anchors rarely ever write their own stories.
Can you provide any facts instead of opinion?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Wow! Whom do you trust, smoothy?
Look up accusation at Bush... look up accusations at Obama... on their site.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
They are less lovey dovey with Bush than they were for Obama...
Simple cases of Nuances of the english language... its not about actual words... but context and nuances which change the meaning of those words.
I don't like the guy... I don't pretend to be neutral on the topic... if I did you would still see through it... THIS is the case here. If someone took an honest poll over at Snoopes. They would be overwelmingly Democrat in affiliation. They DO try to be honest and neutral... unlike CBS news... but Bias is bias, and it does show through.
Based on what I have actually seen the last 25 years... and what I've seen reported later? I have actually seen more than a few news events with my own eyes... before reporters twisted reality with their words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
In case you saw my comment on 'Ignorance is bliss" in the Our President thread... it has everything to do with this. Just because you see it on the evening news... doesn't mean that's exactly what really happened. What you see is what they want you to believe happened. They rarely are exactly the same, and many times very different. After all, how many people really saw what happened that can refute the story as inaccurate anyway? When they control the outlet.
I trust what I see... but depending on who I hear it from... I tend to take with varied measures of scepticism.
I trust very few implicitly. But CBS rates right down at the bottom of the pile along with PBS and the BBC as far as obvious and clear bias in their stories.
And its not just in the USA... this happens everyplace just to be fair in spreading the blame around.
So no facts, just your personal "interpretation".Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
No... those are facts... interpretation has nothing to do with nuances... unless you are Bill Clinton... trying to parse words.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Bill Clinton Slooged on the blue dress... and lied about it... as much as he tried to claim no sex was ever involved. See where dancing around the subject got him. Of course some people still believe that somehow body fluid teleported onto the dress without them being in the same room.
Calling someone a criminal... and saying that their personal actions may not have been completely legal all arrive at the same thing... the only differences are the nuances of the words used.
Actually that's not very nuanced... but exaggerated to make a point. You can mean something very different depending on exactly what words are used and how they are used... and it leaves no 'interpretation".
Both ultimately mean the same thing. And would in a courtroom. Particularly where perjury is involved.
Nuances are what drive interpretation. "John is in jail now" seems to be a flat, factual statement. If you are a single guy chatting with another single guy and both of you know John got married last Saturday, the nuance (interpretation) of that statement is that John's marriage is now limiting his freedom. To them, marriage = jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
All I asked is "whom do you trust?" and I don't remember seeing an answer in all I got back.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I don't think smoother has responded directly to any question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Must be one of those nuanced things he was talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I read just this morning that the health care bill will cost AT&T an additional 1 Billion this year. That's about 1/3 of their 4th quarter earnings last year, according to the article.
That's a lot of money, even for a big corporaton.
Don't get me wrong, I don't love AT&T due to some past dealings with them.
But, who do you think this will hurt if not the employees, or maybe that grandma who owns some stock?
This is just the beginning.
So where did you read that? I've seen some of the "emails" you've posted before so I'm cautious about your use of facts.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by galveston
Oh, look. Here he goes again trying to prove that traditional U.S. allies were only allies of the former administration. Britain, Poland, now Israel: who's next, Canada? Japan? Australia?
White House 'puzzled' over Netanyahu storm
Read it again... I was pretty verbose in describing who I trust and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
And I do have a perspective on things very few people have that based on real life experience... not colored exclusively by some journalists bias.
I answered... just because you don't want to read it is your problem... not mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I answered the question... you however only accept answers cleared by the DNC propaganda office. That's not my problem, its yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Haha! This thread is always good for a laugh. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
And reflects the Democrats unwillingness to listen to anything except what they are told to believe by the Party.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Personally... I don't give a hoot if YOU like my answer or not... I made one... if you don't like it tough... I don't clear my answers with the Obnama Propagandists.
LOL! Keep going!Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
And what does a Medical police , Gestapo, thugs, whatever you want to call them, who are appointed by the president, are loyal only to the president, and cost hundreds of millions of dollars needed for to provide health coverage? Don't know what I'm talking about? Well then you like mios tof the democrats never read the bill did you... you are told what you should believe is in it, but you never read it and what it can be interpreted to mean. After all, if Democrats actually believed "Deem and Pass" was constitutional, how will they twist this to "mean"?
Still don't have a clue... go to page 1312 of the Senate bill... explain HOW that has anything to do with covering anyone that's not covered... or providing health care to anyone at all?
Since you are all so proficient in what's in this bill, you oviously already have copies and don't need a link to it. Because after all, Obama says its good for you... so it must be.
Never mind Nancy Pelosis saying We need to vote for this bill so we can find out what's in it.
Hell, clearly SHE never read it...
You showed how much you know... which is nothing...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Return to your hourly prayer to Obama now...
I couldn't care less about Obama, I'm having a laugh at the far-right loonies.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Happy in your little make believe fantasy world? They can treat that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Its clear you have wet dreams about Obama based on your own comments... be an adult and admit it.
How can it be treated? I'd really like to break out of my make believe fantasy world.
Well, you won't get it under Obama care...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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