Because marriage requires discipline and self-denial, and we don't like that. And when women adopt a loose attitude towards sexual involvement with men, then one of the encouragements towards marriage disappears. No-fault divorce has been another enemy of marriage.

So it's the fault of women.

Why don't men tell them no?

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So it's the fault of women.

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Who said that?

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Why don't men tell them no?

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We certainly should, but men tend to follow their animal instincts in such instances.

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You did, first thing.: "And when women adopt a loose attitude towards sexual involvement with men..."

He can't say no? His "animal instincts" take over.

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Overturning Roe is returning law making to the people's representatives away from the black robed unelected oligarchs.

I did not say it was the fault of women. Many women are behaving foolishly as are many men. Both sexes should behave more responsibly.

Albert Ellis, the famous psychologist, said, "Don't should on yourself."

Too often both sexes don't behave responsibly. Yet the "problem" -- and its solution -- falls on the woman. The man, smiling, walks away.

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Too often both sexes don't behave responsibly. Yet the "problem" -- and its solution -- falls on the woman. The man, smiling, walks away.

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To be certain, the woman takes practically all the risks. If I was a woman, I'd be VERY careful. There are many careless, deceitful men out there. When I go to bed at night, I'm careful to lock the doors. I don't wish to take the risks of unlocked doors, and I'm not going to appeal for more caring, loving burglars. My house is my responsibility and no one else's.

Locking the door. Thus, a chastity belt would be most helpful.

How does a woman know when a man is deceitful?

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How does a woman know when a man is deceitful?

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Same way you tell if any person is deceitful. Are they manipulative? Are they honest? Do they keep their word? Time, time, time. It comes out eventually.

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Time, time, time. How long do I have to be with him before "it" comes out?

When they have an end goal in sight, they are perfect gentlemen. I can tell you stories 'til the cows come home.

How long? Depends on how much you value yourself.

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But the woman hasn't yet experienced any deceit. He's very clever.

Yep. Time, time, time. But that woman knows deceit. She need only look in her own heart.

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Yep. Time, time, time. But that woman knows deceit. She need only look in her own heart.

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Nope, she's an innocent.

Let's you and me write a children's book about how to identify deceit in someone! Maybe we would be guests on Dr. Phil!

Sure she is.

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She's 15. Just started dating. Church group activities only!

There are few things more devious than a teenager. You claim to be a counselor and you don’t know that???

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There are few things more devious than a teenager. You claim to be a counselor and you don’t know that???

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Not the ones I grew up with and raised and have known. Must be something in Southern cooking or parenting that makes them devious.

I CLAIM to be a counselor????

Strange that you always consider yourself to be the noble exception. Well, you won’t sell me on that nonsense. Not buying today.

I think you read too much fiction.