Got a lot of mexico in that map seems like there is just as much green in this one

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.regjGD...id=ImgDet&rs=1

this one might be more in line with your thinking
https://australian-deserts.weebly.co...33967_orig.jpg

What do you think of this? It is a chart of arable land by country.

COUNTRY NAME	HECTARES
United States	152,262,500
Australia	46,048,000

https://www.bing.com/search?q=tillab...16&FORM=CHROMN

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If it was up to me, we'd sell off most of it.

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Yep, you'd bulldoze the awesome formations in Bryce National Park and blow up the magnificent arches in Arches National Park, put in condos, then establish the Grand Canyon as the nation's landfill (like, what else is that deep hole good for???). Had Trump gotten a second term, I have no doubt he would have leaned toward doing exactly that. He had already made moves to build his wall through nature sanctuaries and national land.

no way to make a comparison with size I didn't have any doubt you have more arible land in the US

you rank 2nd in the world for arible land and Australia sixth but many countries don't have more than 10% arible land so you are blessed with 16% put that together with water and it works for you until the weather turns against you

There is plenty of land the nation owns that is not national monuments travelled to for recreation. And most of those visits are to a hand full of parks . j is talking about the rest of the 28 % of the land mass of the United States owned by the Federal government . And as for those recreational sites ; I have been to a couple of them . They are NOT well managed . Perhaps contracting them out to private interests within guidelines would be the way to go .

as always the free market advocate Tom

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Yep, you'd bulldoze the awesome formations in Bryce National Park and blow up the magnificent arches in Arches National Park, put in condos, then establish the Grand Canyon as the nation's landfill (like, what else is that deep hole good for???). Had Trump gotten a second term, I have no doubt he would have leaned toward doing exactly that. He had already made moves to build his wall through nature sanctuaries and national land.

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Don't be a drama queen. No one is suggesting that.

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Don't be a drama queen. No one is suggesting that.

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The last thing we need in this country is more development!

where I am moving ;to South Carolina ,there is development everywhere you see. People can't buy new homes there fast enough . But that is not what j is talking about . Almost 85 % of the land in Nevada is owned by the Feds . That is ratable that the state and local authorities do not collect . Over 45 % of California is owned by the Feds . It is obscene ! We don't have that issue in NY . Less than 1% is owned by the Feds .

all that land locked up, shutting the developers and exploiters out, what a travesty

it is a travesty . All you need is guidelines as to what the land can be uses for . Private interests have to navigate zone requirments all the time . No one is advocating laisse faire so stop the strawman now .

It is a travesty. National parks are reasonable. For most of the rest, it's hard to understand.

across the board a trvesty . Example . I went to White Mountain forest . 6 million people visit annually . Facilities and rest rooms were barely maintained . Why ? Entrance and parking is free . This is prime recreation . I gladly pay $10 -$20 for parking and use of the park at private parks all over the east . No one would object to reasonable fees for use . Even camping is free . But the pigs leave their garbage behind .

yes there are pigs everywhere, maybe a good reason for keeping the land locked up

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But the pigs leave their garbage behind .

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Did you pick it up and help with the cleanup?

Clete, thought you'd be glad to know that wifey and I watched an Aussie movie tonight titled "The Riddle of the Stinson". It was quite good. Had to admire the toughness of those Aussie bushmen.

Interesting, I've not heard of that one but if you like that sort of thing Sweet Country might be one to watch