I refer to post #94

Exactly. It is precisely the kind of truthful post that goes, by personal choice, in one ear and out the other of the liberal dems on this board.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

like Quid and the emperor were so stellar when dealing with H1N1

Ron Klain, who was Quid's chief of staff at the time sais, “It is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history” “It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck. If anyone thinks that this can’t happen again, they don’t have to go back to 1918, they just have to go back to 2009, 2010 and imagine a virus with a different lethality, and you can just do the math on that.”


H1N1 infected 60 million Americans .It just wasn't as lethal as previous swine flu events like 1918 .

One of the big differences was that Bush had supplied the emergency stockpile . The emperor and Quid depleted and did not restock . If H1N1 had been as lethal as covid ,we would've seen 2 million Americans dead .


But no one knew it at the time . Did the emperor and Quid act decisive ? Except for emptying the strategic supplies ;no . Did they close the border even as they knew the origin was in Mexico ? No . Did they close schools even though it was kids that were the highest risk of death ? No . Were there lock downs ? No. The emperor got away with saying he would try to control the impact of the virus ... not control the virus .

Vaccine ..... it is easier to create a flu vaccine than a new strain of covid . The emperor promised 100 million doses by fall in anticipation of a 2nd wave . Only 11 million were produced . By that time 22 million Americans had been infected .
[America would've been better off in just acknowledging(as Democrats once did ) that there is only so much a government can do to control a germ.

Quid lucks out . He comes in at the tail end of a pandemic; when a number of vaccines will be coming on the market and the distribution system will have been set up by a man who's business before he became President was to manage the distribution chain of a number of large projects at the same time .
But Quid will get the credit much like the emperor got a Peace Prize nomination 11 days after he was inaugurated (he made a couple of hate America speeches overseas which secured his selection) .

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I tried to ignore this revision of history, because the dufus's words and actions made things worse as evidence by current events. Of course this was a bigger disaster and he didn't rise to the challenge, just the opposite he LIED about it and what he was doing about it which was next to nothing.

Only the dufusites bought his crap and thankfully enough people with good sense got his a$$ out of office. It's going to get a lot worse unfortunately.

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We test more people by far than any other country, and we have developed a vaccine in record time. I'm sure you've just forgotten to give Trump credit for that,

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Trump has always wanted testing to stop because there would be fewer covid cases if no tests. And the vaccine was developed in spite of him.

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thankfully enough people with good sense got his a$$ out of office

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA&t=425

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Trump has always wanted testing to stop because there would be fewer covid cases if no tests. And the vaccine was developed in spite of him.

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It would be hard to imagine any two statements any more absurd, or any more devoid of evidence, than these.

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It would be hard to imagine any two statements any more absurd, or any more devoid of evidence, than these.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aN1eptTaWVM

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/co...nded-by-trump/

Your Snopes link is ridiculous in that it applies to one company out of six.

""No doubt, Operation Warp Speed is a huge success," said Tinglong Dai, associate professor of Operations Management and Business Analytics at Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School in Baltimore."You can like or hate the Trump administration, but no doubt, it's a huge success — unprecedented success."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/opera...cine-1.5806820

The Youtube video was beyond ridiculous. Trump's point was clearly that an abundance of testing is showing an abundance of cases. You have somehow twisted that to mean something completely absurd.

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Trump's point was clearly that an abundance of testing is showing an abundance of cases.

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Thus, his conclusion is (and he said it more than once), if we stop testing, the number of cases will go down.

Only non-thinkers understand that to mean that testing is somehow causing disease. His comment was to the effect that we know about a lot of cases that we might not have paid much attention to otherwise except that they were made obvious by testing. The truth is, the great majority of Covid cases come and go without any great threat the a person's life or health.

Here's your great liberal dem gov of Cali following his own rules. After lying about it and pretending they were outside, a reporter got this pic out to show the whole deal. I'm sure all of the "I hate lying" liberal dems on this site will react vigorously. See the masks? Yeah, I don't either. And they were putting their kids at risk! Oh the inhumanity of it all!
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-...73-600x386.jpg

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Only non-thinkers understand that to mean that testing is somehow causing disease.

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Yup! You pegged him perfectly!

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Here's your great liberal dem gov of Cali following his own rules. After lying about it and pretending they were outside, a reporter got this pic out to show the whole deal.

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Just like you Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns.

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Just like you Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns.

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Once again you are incorrect. I have no affection for "spitting saliva droplets". That would be much more likely for someone reading a porn book, would it not? Otherwise, very naturally, since Newsom is a liberal dem and not associated with Trump, you are cheerfully able to pass right by and say nothing critical of his lying and hypocrisy. Does he write porn, too?

TDS. No doubt about it.

But I will say that I do love the hymns and do love to sing them. I like a number of genres of Christian music. I led singing for 20 years and got a lot out of it. And yes, if we are going to sing of God, it should be done with heart and soul, for He is certainly worthy of it.

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Once again you are incorrect. I have no affection for "spitting saliva droplets".

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You've never seen the laser imaging and high-speed videography that show how thousands of saliva droplets that are too small to see with the naked eye are emitted in normal speech and singing?

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You've never seen the laser imaging and high-speed videography that show how thousands of saliva droplets that are too small to see with the naked eye are emitted in normal speech and singing?

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I have, and in fact I didn't say I didn't do it. I said I have no affection for it. But at any rate, wouldn't that make you one of those, "Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns?"

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But at any rate, wouldn't that make you one of those, "Christians who don't think you can worship God unless you're spitting saliva droplets at each other as you lustily sing hymns?"

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I'm doing church at home.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA&t=425

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You ever wonder how evidence is abundant on social media and the court of public opinion, but never enters the court of law?

Newsome screwed up, what an idiot move. Pales in comparison to the dufus antics that he passes for leadership and small wonder America is getting it's a$$ kicked by the bug.

And again. What do you propose that we do which is not already being done, other than getting rid of hypocritical dem govs?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keANzinHWUA&t=425

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Interesting link. The video is by Falun Gong, a very weird Chinese society who believe Trump is on earth to be their saviour and defeat Chinese Communism

They claim that aliens started invading human minds in the beginning of the 20th century, leading to mass corruption and the invention of computers. They have also denounced feminism and homosexuality and claim their leader can walk through walls and levitate.

Any more videos, tomder?

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And again. What do you propose that we do which is not already being done, other than getting rid of hypocritical dem govs?

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Stop listening to the loonies who say do NOTHING. Or at least take the stupid tin foil hat off your head. Not a good look.

So for the six hundredth and thirty fifth time, what do you suggest we do that is not currently being done? Your pathetic references to loonies, foil hats, and cookware were silly to begin with and have not improved with time. They look more and more like a smoke screen to hide behind.