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  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Nope. Your lying just keep going.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:51 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nope. Your lying just keep going.

    That makes no sense. You ARE running out of steam.

    It would be interesting to compare your statements against my "lies".
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:55 PM
    jlisenbe
    I'd be happy to. Let's start with my supposed statement from months ago where I didn't know what "ad hominem" meant. Can you point that out?
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:57 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'd be happy to. Let's start with my supposed statement from months ago where I didn't know what "ad hominem" meant. Can you point that out?

    I have far better ones. Keep watching this site.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 03:59 PM
    jlisenbe
    So just another lie. Sad.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 04:53 PM
    talaniman
    For those that need to know about systemic racism.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/70507/white-supremacist-infiltration-of-us-police-forces-fact-checking-national-security-advisor-obrien/


    https://popculture.com/trending/news...-infiltration/
  • Jun 25, 2020, 05:38 PM
    paraclete
    It is just another way of saying racist, to a minority every thing is racist
  • Jun 25, 2020, 05:44 PM
    Athos
    I wonder why some people here find such a simple search so difficult? When these people continue asking what is systemic racism and refuse to do a simple search as you have done, they are telling us who they are and what they really believe.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 06:23 PM
    jlisenbe
    I wonder why people here cannot answer simple questions? Is it that you actually have no idea of what you're talking about? And links to some site called "Popculture.com" is not impressive. No, I'm not going there.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 06:37 PM
    jlisenbe
    Here's some systemic racism for you.

    Black model gets fired from agency after proudly attending pro-Trump conference

    https://thegrio.com/2018/11/07/black..._nHAgn36gMYNvY
  • Jun 25, 2020, 06:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I wonder why people here cannot answer simple questions? Is it that you actually have no idea of what you're talking about? And links to some site called "Popculture.com" is not impressive. No, I'm not going there.

    Try this site and look at the 25 charts), from https://www.businessinsider.com/us-s...le-for-years-1

    ***It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.

    The resulting data show that these disparities exist along nearly every facet of American life, including employment, wealth, education, home ownership, healthcare, and incarceration.***
  • Jun 25, 2020, 07:09 PM
    jlisenbe
    Your link doesn't work.

    Quote:

    ***It's called "systemic" racism because it's ingrained in nearly every way people move through society in the policies and practices at institutions like banks, schools, companies, government agencies, and law enforcement.
    Those are the kind of simplistic statements that should concern all of us. For instance, black men are more likely to be jailed. That sounds like some kind of racism until you factor in that black men are also more likely to commit crimes. And do you suppose that could be the result of absent fathers? So I'm all for looking at these issues so long as it's done in an honest and thorough manner.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 07:35 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Your link doesn't work.

    It's easy to google....
    Quote:

    Those are the kind of simplistic statements that should concern all of us. For instance, black men are more likely to be jailed. That sounds like some kind of racism until you factor in that black men are also more likely to commit crimes. And do you suppose that could be the result of absent fathers? So I'm all for looking at these issues so long as it's done in an honest and thorough manner.
    A black man was recently killed by police when dancing as he walked along, headphones on, listening to music. A black man was shot by white "vigilantes" while jogging. A black man was shot and killed by police after he fell asleep at a Wendy's driveup. Had those been white men, would they have been killed for dancing while walking or jogging or sleeping in a fast-food driveup? It's apparently not good to be black while shopping or driving or picnicking or birdwatching or sitting in your front yard or watching tv in your living room.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 07:40 PM
    paraclete
    no it is an appauling state of affairs but when you have a two race nation problems are sure to occur
  • Jun 25, 2020, 07:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    no it is an appauling state of affairs but when you have a two race nation problems are sure to occur

    We aren't a two-race nation.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 08:01 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    We aren't a two-race nation.

    one race is vocal enough to make you wonder
  • Jun 25, 2020, 08:32 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    A black man was shot by white "vigilantes" while jogging.
    Would you be happy if he had been shot by black people?

    Quote:

    A black man was shot and killed by police after he fell asleep at a Wendy's driveup.
    You mean after he got up, resisted arrest, stole one officer's taser, took off running, and fired the taser at one of the officers??? You see why I said we need to discuss these issues in an honest fashion?

    You failed to mention the 7 thousand or so black people murdered every year by other black people. Oh, I forgot. You don't care about them. Is it because there's no political advantage to be gained by their deaths?

    Quote:

    It's apparently not good to be black while shopping or driving or picnicking or birdwatching or sitting in your front yard or watching tv in your living room.
    Thank you for illustrating the mistake of simplistic views of this subject.
  • Jun 25, 2020, 09:33 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post

    You failed to mention the 7 thousand or so black people murdered every year by other black people. Oh, I forgot. You don't care about them.
    .

    Now why would that happen, do you think? White on white, white on black, black on black, black on white. it is all killing and each one no more desirable than the other. No blacks when killed by whites are a special case
  • Jun 26, 2020, 05:52 AM
    talaniman
    No, blacks killed by cops is the issue. Nobody is disputing or happy with black on black crime, largely gang violence, fed by poverty and racists policy and practices over decades.*

    *Verifiable personal attack deleted in the interest of HONEST discussion!
  • Jun 26, 2020, 06:41 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    No, blacks killed by cops is the issue. Nobody is disputing or happy with black on black crime, largely gang violence, fed by poverty and racists policy and practices over decades.*

    *Verifiable personal attack deleted in the interest of HONEST discussion!

    You know Tal if blacks decided they would not kill another black the crime rate would drop and cops would have less need to fear the next black man they encounter has a gun, but in reality the problem is cops carrying guns and cops trained to use deadly force. Surely not every cop needs a side arm

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