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The crisis has been averted, Trump will sanction Iranian leadership as if they keep their money where he can get at it. So the Iranian leaders don't get to sip imported champagne or drive a big american SUV, I'm sure they will be disappointed. The way to get them to stop is to cut Saudi Arabia loose
Now that would be interesting, Saudi Arabia using it's own treasure and resources to defend it's own interests, instead of us. Problem solved recall the fleet.
All of which was taking place under the Obama administration. Liberals were strangely quiet about it then.Quote:
You mean that's worse than defending and selling guns to tyrant murderers of an American in Turkey? Whose cleaning up that mess? Or abusing migrant kids in El Paso?
Good point, especially now that we are petroleum independent.Quote:
Now that would be interesting, Saudi Arabia using it's own treasure and resources to defend it's own interests, instead of us. Problem solved recall the fleet.
ah there is still the military industrial complex and those weapon sales
The US doesn't live with a dome of protection . What happens in the world affects us in many ways . It is naive to think that conflicts in the ME would not have an impact on us if we decided to retreat to fortress America . As you know ;our borders are in fact pretty porous .Quote:
Now that would be interesting, Saudi Arabia using it's own treasure and resources to defend it's own interests, instead of us. Problem solved recall the fleet.
If you were to retreat you might have enough troops to defend your borders, you could then invade your neighbours and solve the problemQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
no thanks I'd just as soon not live in a country like Australia dependent on stronger nations for their security .
Exactly correct. That's why all the complaining and finger-pointing just has a hollow ring to it. And true of most of the world. They depend on us for defense, and then want to complain.Quote:
no thanks I'd just as soon not live in a country like Australia dependent on stronger nations for their security .
Our conservatives don't get your humor Clete. It was humor wasn't it? I LMAO!
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Originally Posted by talaniman
A lot of what I say is tongue in cheek Tal, but you are right americans don't get our sense of humour which is often sardonic
You see the irony, Tom, is; your nation isn't the only one who would like to be our protector. I'm not sure who you are protecting us from, or, who we need to be protected from. We are very busy upgrading our navy and, of course, we are buying flying bricks from you. We don't have a large standing army it is true but we are not engaged in war as a way of lifeQuote:
no thanks I'd just as soon not live in a country like Australia dependent on stronger nations for their security
I'm sure the Chinese are greatly concerned now that you have gone from six rowboats to eight.Quote:
We are very busy upgrading our navy
As you said. Sardonic humor. No offense intended.
yeah that's the dilemna ;who's sphere of influence do you want to be under ?
No, we leave the row boats to you, our game is to catch fishermen and confiscate their boats, this has certain advantages. We arn't concerned about the chinese, they are busy with their neighbours and other boorsQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
They take the long view . Haven't you heard about their 2050 plan ? I know we won't be around to witness it ,or maybe we will ... ;but ..............https://www.news.com.au/finance/work...d5ca89a2479e94
Well don't say we didn't have fair warning.
That is an old article Tom we have moved a long way since thenQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
he made the address to the party 2 years ago about his 30 year plan. It is not that old .
The content is somewhat out of date, right now he has a Trump to fry. Remember Hitler's thousand year reich and how long it lasted, I give Xi about the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
from your mouth to God's ears
That's the best warning his people get as to how much they get screwed for his agenda.
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