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Originally Posted by tomder55

I wasn't asking abortion stats . I was asking a quantification of the proposal that a significant number of babies and children died because medical care was refused, because of awful living conditions? Those numbers cant be quantified . I can say affirmatively that since Roe ;45 million babies were killed by abortion(and that is a conservative estimate ;I've seen numbers as high as 60 million plus .

Dig deeper because you totals do not reflect the trend of less abortions. Laws or lack of laws don't give us the zero sum you want, but for sure banning them will bring those numbers back underground as before Roe. Babies have been aborted since almost the beginning of time by smart female who knew what they were doing and without a man even knowing.

the downward trend is because our generation stopped making babies to kill. So there aren't as many next generation to abort their babies . 2015;
"only " 638,169 babies were murdered . That makes us better than the one year total of the Rwanda genocide . But Rwanda was in one year . 600,000 represents a low water mark for us . We are roughly right there with the Armenian genocide .Except that went on for 2 years ;not 45 years .

Ouch!

Is it just a matter of a woman entering an abortion clinic, bada boom bada, bing?
Under what other circumstances does that ever occur?

The death of a pregnant woman is even more upsetting.

Now, a double homicide is when
two people are killed by a different person or group
. Therefore, murdering a pregnant woman can be classified as a
double homicide
because someone else is ending the life of a mother and a child.

Or Auntie Susan can help Brenda abort by using a straightened coat hanger.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

the downward trend is because our generation stopped making babies to kill. So there aren't as many next generation to abort their babies . 2015;
"only " 638,169 babies were murdered . That makes us better than the one year total of the Rwanda genocide . But Rwanda was in one year . 600,000 represents a low water mark for us . We are roughly right there with the Armenian genocide .Except that went on for 2 years ;not 45 years .

I would imagine that women being more educated and better resourced, and having more options like seeing a GYN/OB earlier also contributes to the down trending number, but as it stands poor women are the only victims of the policies, practices and believers of that zero abortion policy. I've been listening to the soaring rhetoric and spin the so called moral people have about murdering babies and read the actual legislation, and your side lies about it, Tom, Clete, so as against abortion as I am I as a man cannot get pregnant and since abstinence is the only 100% guaranteed method to avoid pregnancy, which for most of us ain't going to happen then a woman has to take responsibility and the more she knows the better it is.

Living in a country whose very history was built on rape, pillage, and plunder, and of course genocide and murder, I find it laughable you still think you can call names and kick poor butts as you will. I can respect pro life, but stay out of my business unless you are committed to ALL life. And will raise the child until maturity. Seems you should at least respect someone that cannot, or is unwilling too, since you are as unwilling also.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Living in a country whose very history was built on rape, pillage, and plunder, and of course genocide and murder, I find it laughable you still think you can call names and kick poor butts as you will. .

Ah the reality of life in your nation, championed by liberal causes. And you think you should defend this

Your own history is not that different from ours, but centuries shorter and you had the benefit of learning from our mistakes, and still you make your own. Not my place to judge you and I'm not because you're good allies, and had a lot less opposition to your conquest, and a smaller population.

You're doing good, keep it up.

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What's really unfortunate is repub Christian conservatives trying to control and keep women and minorities in there place by any means necessary.

Completely ridiculous comment. No one has even mentioned minorities.

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I concur because abortions are becoming unnecessary, and late term abortions are rare.

Well, they might be killing babies, but it is really no longer necessary (how you came to that conclusion is a complete mystery) and, after all, they are killing them at ever younger ages so it's OK.

Wow. What logic.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Your own history is not that different from ours, but centuries shorter and you had the benefit of learning from our mistakes, and still you make your own. Not my place to judge you and I'm not because you're good allies, and had a lot less opposition to your conquest, and a smaller population.

You're doing good, keep it up.

I do and Tal, consider this, the issues of your nation are not mirrored in my own. We have a different set of problems to solve. Did we learn from your mistakes? My nation was not founded in rebellion and slavery. Not saying there weren't dark times and lamentable happenings, but the ethos is completely different.

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What's really unfortunate is repub Christian conservatives trying to control and keep women and minorities in there place by any means necessary.

Completely ridiculous comment. No one has even mentioned minorities.

Oh the irony considering that Planned Parenthood was created one of the nation's most notorious racist eugenicist ;Margaret Sanger . You can read some of her views and quotes here :https://www.frc.org/op-eds/margaret-...extraordinaire

This is one of the primary reasons I voted for Trump. Thank God someone has taken action. He is denying federal funding to clinics that provide abortions as well he should.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6005956704001/

Yes but he very selective about what he denies federal funding too. I would have thought the abortion of millions of potential citizens was a greater national emergency than a wall but then in a nation that kills thousands of its citizens a year who knows what has priority.

No to worry because he has caused a great international recession and perhaps the next great depression

Not too sure about what's going on in the rest of the world, but the economy is humming here. Record low unemployment.

I enjoyed the Clinton years too, but that didn't stop wars recessions and depressions from ruining the economy. The lesson though was enjoy the good times while they last and save for the bad times sure to come. It's a bit unrealistic to assume that this current good time will last forever, or even for years to come. Never has before.

Not to worry . Trump is selling rice to China .https://money.cnn.com/2017/07/21/new...ade/index.html

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It's a bit unrealistic to assume that this current good time will last forever, or even for years to come. Never has before.

Agree completely. That's why it is so ridiculous to have deficit spending now. And you can be sure that people are racking up credit accounts like there is no tomorrow.

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Agree completely. That's why it is so ridiculous to have deficit spending now. And you can be sure that people are racking up credit accounts like there is no tomorrow.

Genesis 41 25-37

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Not too sure about what's going on in the rest of the world, but the economy is humming here. Record low unemployment.

Like that idiot Trump you don't care what happens in the rest of the world, you don't realise it is all interconnected. You are not the only place with record low unemployment but this is transient and could evaporate tomorrow. Trade is very important and it is slowing in many places. Do not think we are going to buy your outputs, we prefer our own

First you say Trump has caused an international recession, and then you say there are other places with record low unemployment. I think you are confused.