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Originally Posted by paraclete

Well if they have their way they will take over Europe and eliminate the Christians as they tried for centuries to do. By taking these people in Europe is dumbing down and they will go into cultural decline

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Christianity is what has been dumbing down Europe for millennia now! Fortunately most people in The Netherlands are atheists just like me. We don't worship the Abrahamic God, who is misogynistic, homophobic, who endorsed slavery, rape, stoning, committed genocide and is a sadistic egomaniac.

Unfortunately there are still some religious people in The Netherlands, but if I were the boss here, I would eradicate all religions, not only Islam, Hinduism and Judaism, but also Christianity. Christianity produces bigots such as Kim Davis or even Hitler. But unfortunately I am smart enough to see that Mao was right: religion is is opium for the masses and it is not that easy to take it away from them.

But if anyone would wipe out all the Christians in The Netherlands, most people that I know and love would still be here. I have over 500 Facebook friends and if 10 of them are Christians that live in The Netherlands, that will be much.

Most Christians that I know and love live in Suriname. If you really want Muslims to assimilate into The Netherlands and especially into the cities where they usually live, they will not only give up Islam, they will give up religion all together!

So if you think that you can offend me by calling Muhammad Muhatmat of whatever you wrote, you are mistaken. I think that Muhammad was a genocidal pedophile, polygynic, wifebeater and I have no respect at all for him, for Allah, for Jehova or for Jahweh. Yes a lot of Muslims are backwards barbars that beat their under age wife's, but Christians really don't have the moral high ground : The Catholic Church is a huge pedophile organisation, the FLDS is even worse, with Warren Jeffs sitting behind bars right now for being a huge pedophile, in the US and just look at all the atrocities that were done in name of Christianity including killing scholars like Galileo.

So really if you want to offend me, you need some more ammo than misspelling the name of a genocidal dictator like Assad or a genocidal pedophile prophet like Muhammad.

But since you only been saying crap here about refugees it doesn't matter what you say about me, because I know who it is coming from. I was raised as a Catholic so I do know that Jesus taught his followers to love their enemy and to turn their other cheek. Or that only he who is without sin should cast the first stone. So on top of being a bigot all of you who don't want to help refugees because they are Muslims are also bad Christians. According to your own religion your attitude will land you in hell after death! Really you claim to have the moral highground, but from where I am sitting, not so much...

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Originally Posted by misspurple77

Christianity is what has been dumbing down Europe for millennia now! Fortunately most people in The Netherlands are atheists just like me. We don't worship the Abrahamic God, who is misogynistic, homophobic, who endorsed slavery, rape, stoning, committed genocide and is a sadistic egomaniac.

Unfortunately there are still some religious people in The Netherlands, but if I were the boss here, I would eradicate all religions, not only Islam, Hinduism and Judaism, but also Christianity. Christianity produces bigots such as Kim Davis or even Hitler. But unfortunately I am smart enough to see that Mao was right: religion is is opium for the masses and it is not that easy to take it away from them.

But if anyone would wipe out all the Christians in The Netherlands, most people that I know and love would still be here. I have over 500 Facebook friends and if 10 of them are Christians that live in The Netherlands, that will be much.

Most Christians that I know and love live in Suriname. If you really want Muslims to assimilate into The Netherlands and especially into the cities where they usually live, they will not only give up Islam, they will give up religion all together!

So if you think that you can offend me by calling Muhammad Muhatmat of whatever you wrote, you are mistaken. I think that Muhammad was a genocidal pedophile, polygynic, wifebeater and I have no respect at all for him, for Allah, for Jehova or for Jahweh. Yes a lot of Muslims are backwards barbars that beat their under age wife's, but Christians really don't have the moral high ground : The Catholic Church is a huge pedophile organisation, the FLDS is even worse, with Warren Jeffs sitting behind bars right now for being a huge pedophile, in the US and just look at all the atrocities that were done in name of Christianity including killing scholars like Galileo.

So really if you want to offend me, you need some more ammo than misspelling the name of a genocidal dictator like Assad or a genocidal pedophile prophet like Muhammad.

But since you only been saying crap here about refugees it doesn't matter what you say about me, because I know who it is coming from. I was raised as a Catholic so I do know that Jesus taught his followers to love their enemy and to turn their other cheek. Or that only he who is without sin should cast the first stone. So on top of being a bigot all of you who don't want to help refugees because they are Muslims are also bad Christians. According to your own religion your attitude will land you in hell after death! Really you claim to have the moral highground, but from where I am sitting, not so much...

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And we get to the root of it. Christian Bashing by Atheists that think they are superior to everyone. Funny how so many atheists think they are somehow better than everyone and think they can berate others purely on that basis.

Its also funny how atheists are so keen to bash on Christians who have done them no harm... yet Back up Muslims and Islam which by its very nature oppress everyone.

And its also funny how the people that do the most PREACHING...tend to be the atheists. Who for some unknown reason think they alone have some mythical moral superiority.

I guess you didn't like her opinion smoothy?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I guess you didn't like her opinion smoothy?

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She's the one coming here posting with a high and mighty attitude about how the poor Muslim illegals are being unfairly picked on by "racists" because somehow they are entitled to travel half way across the earth and Demand to be in one specific place, then proceeds to bash other nationalities other races and then Just Christians... I doubt she is Atheist... more like a Muslim that won't admit it.

This has nothing to do with my agreeing with her or not... its about her overt hypocrisy and her own racism.
She has Bashed Amercans in general, specifically WHITES, she has bashed Christians... she has bashed everything outside of her rather radical narrow belief system....and she is calling others racist?

Well paraclete did say that allowing the refugees in will lead to overall dumbing down and cultural decline. I can imagine that would set some on the defensive.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Well paraclete did say that allowing the refugees in will lead to overall dumbing down and cultural decline. I can imagine that would set some on the defensive.

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Nothing untrue about what paraclete said. I've seen it happening in Italy for years starting with Albanian illegals ( pretending to be refugees)...then the ROM, and just getting worse with Libya. It used to be the Gypsies committing most of the crimes.

These people are dumb as stumps... poorly educated... don't speak the language.. don't respect the any of the laws... and are responsible for a majority of the crimes.

This batch aren't going to be any different.

And yes I DO have a right to comment... My wife still holds an EU passport as well as an American one.. and I'm a legal resident there (already eligible for citizenship and have been for over 20 years)... and I have property there.

I don't say anything bad about all Refugees! However, I don't ignore all the 'kicking' done by Hungarian journalist, neither I ignore all the warm welcomes and loved poured out to those refugees. However, We cant ignore the rape, murders, throwing of food bcos its not halaal one or bcos it is given by RED CROSS to the Refugees and they refuse bcos it has RED Cross on the box... lol. If I was very hungry and somebody offered me food I will be more then grateful to those then grumbling about other small stuffs.
One more thing,
It should be noted that Galileo was never in a dungeon or tortured; during the Inquisition process he stayed mostly at the house of the Tuscan ambassador to the Vatican and for a short time in a comfortable apartment in the Inquisition building.
Are you being serious?
After the process Galileo spent six months at the palace of Ascanio Piccolomini (c. 1590-1671), the archbishop of Siena and a friend and patron, and then moved into a villa near Arcetri, in the hills above Florence. He spent the rest of his life there.

he died he died on January 8, 1642.
He dies of natural causes, No body killed him! So please stop spreading a lie or may be research well before commenting about something you don't know.
"Love your Neighbour... " As a former catholic myself I know what your talking about, I myself been in that situation and I totally empathies with you but I don't think it's a good idea to say bad things about Christians and same time talk about love for those refugees. I am sorry to say! It sound double standard! As You 'may be' know Roman Catholics (RC).. has a Romans Backgrounds and they Love & worship Christ but also His earthly mother and father Joseph and Mary and all other saints and In RC Church the only way to reach God was through A head priest/father but bible says Christ is the only way. So I don't think if you try to use RC church to justify your point towards all other Christian is a good idea. Also None is saved through their high moral values and deeds but only through faith in the Son. Anyway, I don't hate anyone, refuges, Christians, or atheist etc..
My comment is based on your warm loves towards refugees and hate towards other group of people and their God!

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Originally Posted by Precious7

I don't say anything bad about all Refugees! However, I don't ignore all the 'kicking' done by Hungarian journalist, neither I ignore all the warm welcomes and loved poured out to those refugees. However, We cant ignore the rape, murders, throwing of food bcos its not halaal one or bcos it is given by RED CROSS to the Refugees and they refuse bcos it has RED Cross on the box... lol. If I was very hungry and somebody offered me food I will be more then grateful to those then grumbling about other small stuffs.
One more thing,
It should be noted that Galileo was never in a dungeon or tortured; during the Inquisition process he stayed mostly at the house of the Tuscan ambassador to the Vatican and for a short time in a comfortable apartment in the Inquisition building.
Are you being serious?
After the process Galileo spent six months at the palace of Ascanio Piccolomini (c. 1590-1671), the archbishop of Siena and a friend and patron, and then moved into a villa near Arcetri, in the hills above Florence. He spent the rest of his life there.

he died he died on January 8, 1642.
He dies of natural causes, No body killed him! So please stop spreading a lie or may be research well before commenting about something you don't know.
"Love your Neighbour... " As a former catholic myself I know what your talking about, I myself been in that situation and I totally empathies with you but I don't think it's a good idea to say bad things about Christians and same time talk about love for those refugees. I am sorry to say! It sound double standard! As You 'may be' know Roman Catholics (RC).. has a Romans Backgrounds and they Love & worship Christ but also His earthly mother and father Joseph and Mary and all other saints and In RC Church the only way to reach God was through A head priest/father but bible says Christ is the only way. So I don't think if you try to use RC church to justify your point towards all other Christian is a good idea. Also None is saved through their high moral values and deeds but only through faith in the Son. Anyway, I don't hate anyone, refuges, Christians, or atheist etc..
My comment is based on your warm loves towards refugees and hate towards other group of people and their God!

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I don't hate any race or religion. My best friend who lives in Suriname is a Christian and I dated a lot of white guys.

I only have zero tolerance for intolerance. I hate it when someone says that Muslims are animals: they are people and that all refugees deserve to be shot, because they should stay and fight, especially when that person is a white American, because that means that that person is a descendant of immigrants themselves.

All I am trying to say it that no race or religion should feel that they are better than others, they have all did terrible things.

I also disagree with Richard Dawkins opinion regarding what happened to Ahmed Mohamed, so really I have no tolerance for intolerance, even if someone is atheist. No group is better than another group, neither are atheists. All that defines atheists is a lack of belief in deities, that's it, they can be good and bad people.

Good people help other people and need and bad people say that people in need need to be shot for being cowards. That has nothing to do with race or religion.

This is one of my favourite songs: Imagine by John Lennon and I salute Shakira for singing it to the pope recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVg2EJvvlF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-3wIW1Rpiw

This is what I stand for and believe in. My white atheist exboyfriend, that I dated for six years, always called me a hippie.

I don't judge all Christians based on Catholicism, Kim Davis isn't Catholic and I mentioned her too. Catholics aren't allowed to divorce (which I disagree with as well) and we all know that she had three "kind of" divorces, because she turned out to be a bigamist as well. I also mentioned Warren Jefs, another Christian that isn't a Catholic.

All that I am saying is that being Christian doesn't give you a moral high ground, like some bigots seem to think.

I say live and let live. I am in favour of gay marriage. If people are against it because of their Christian or Muslim beliefs, I find them bigots. I am in favour of divorce, no need to spend your life in an unhappy marriage, therefore I disagree with Catholicism and Jehova's witnesses. I am also pro choice, no one has the right to tell women what to do with their own bodies, and bombing abortion clinics, like some fundamentalisic Christians do, is plain terorrism, which I dissaprove of. But just like not al Christians aren't abortion clinic bombing terrorists, so aren't all Muslims terrorists and if someone says that all Muslims are terrorist, that person is an ignorant bigot, that is what I find disgusting, not the fact that he is a Christian or white. That someone calls Muslims moongod worshippers is so disrespectfull, and no one bats an eye because of that, I want to remind all of them, that just like they doesn't respect Allah, there are people out there that don't respect any imaginairy creature, like me.

Especially not that misogynistic, homophobic sadistic egomaniac that the Abrahamic God is supposed to be, according to his own "word": the Talmud, Bible and Koran. First he wants to keep Adam and Eve ignorant, when they eat of the apple of wisdom anyway, he acts like a toddler with a tantrum and curses mankind for all eternity. Then he commits genocide, by letting everyone except for Noah and his family being killed by a flood. In Sodom and Gomorra he does that again! And why the hell does he has to be so cold hearted to let Lot's wife turn into salt, because she looks back? But what he does to Job or to Egypt is so sadistic, that I really can't respect that God.

So why I have no respect for any religion or any God (allthough I don't know enough of Budhism, but it seems like a good religion to me), I can respect people that are religious, including Christians and Muslims, if they are good people. I haven't forgot about the lessons from Jesus and I find the parabel for the Good Samaritan a really wise lesson. A true follower of Christ, would keep that lesson in mind and not say something like Muslims are animals and terrorists, but they should look at someone's behaviour. Don't judge a book by its cover!

Unfortunately, there are at least two men here, bound on making me ridiculous, twisting my words all the time, that I don't respond anymore to their bigoted posts. But the way that they are conducting themselves, says more about them than about me!

Her numerous Posts in this thread have Bashed White People on a number of fronts multiple times...she has bashed Americans and Specifically USA citizens... and bashed Christians, and she has bashed White people while in turn thinkingshe is perfect and abouve reproach.

Then the fact she feels ANYONE that believes differently than her is a bigot... shows how big of a bigot she is herself.

And despite her claims otherwise... her own words prove everything that I have said. After all she has some irrational Hatred towards Americans and white people for some unknown reason. That makes her a bigot in most peoples minds. Not to mention incredibly arrogant.

I don't hate other Racial groups.... I don't hate Atheists.....I do hate Muslims and I have a damn good reason to....they have tried to kill me before...

She however hates Christians....Thinks Atheists are somehow superior to everyone...she has bashed and made derogatory statements towards Whites and US Citizens... so who is the real bigot here. She is, that's who.

Nobody has twisted a single word she has said....her own words since the title of this thread prove that she is. Because its all there for everyone to read.

And exactly where do YOU get of dictating what anyone else can think...or what other countries decide to do...and when you start insulting others...expect to get some dished back at you.

Apparently you are not old enough to see ALL of the news feeds from Muslim countries CHEERING the terrorists on 9/11.

Are are you so ignorant you think that was justified, are you so blind with your own ideology that you think all those Muslims are NOT animals. And where was ANY of YOUR so called GOOD Muslims protesting when that happened ANGAISNT the terrorists.

And exactly WHAT Muslim Charities provide aid to non-Muslims anywhere in the world? There aren't any because Islam prohibits it.

And before YOU start flapping your gums about who is conducting themselve how....YOU are the one that started Bashing WHite People and Americans early in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Precious7

I don't say anything bad about all Refugees! However, I don't ignore all the 'kicking' done by Hungarian journalist, neither I ignore all the warm welcomes and loved poured out to those refugees. However, We cant ignore the rape, murders, throwing of food bcos its not halaal one or bcos it is given by RED CROSS to the Refugees and they refuse bcos it has RED Cross on the box... lol. If I was very hungry and somebody offered me food I will be more then grateful to those then grumbling about other small stuffs.
One more thing,
It should be noted that Galileo was never in a dungeon or tortured; during the Inquisition process he stayed mostly at the house of the Tuscan ambassador to the Vatican and for a short time in a comfortable apartment in the Inquisition building.
Are you being serious?
After the process Galileo spent six months at the palace of Ascanio Piccolomini (c. 1590-1671), the archbishop of Siena and a friend and patron, and then moved into a villa near Arcetri, in the hills above Florence. He spent the rest of his life there.

he died he died on January 8, 1642.
He dies of natural causes, No body killed him! So please stop spreading a lie or may be research well before commenting about something you don't know.
"Love your Neighbour... " As a former catholic myself I know what your talking about, I myself been in that situation and I totally empathies with you but I don't think it's a good idea to say bad things about Christians and same time talk about love for those refugees. I am sorry to say! It sound double standard! As You 'may be' know Roman Catholics (RC).. has a Romans Backgrounds and they Love & worship Christ but also His earthly mother and father Joseph and Mary and all other saints and In RC Church the only way to reach God was through A head priest/father but bible says Christ is the only way. So I don't think if you try to use RC church to justify your point towards all other Christian is a good idea. Also None is saved through their high moral values and deeds but only through faith in the Son. Anyway, I don't hate anyone, refuges, Christians, or atheist etc..
My comment is based on your warm loves towards refugees and hate towards other group of people and their God!

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My apologies! The church didn't kill Galileo, but the bigoted ignorant way they treated him, is illustrative of the church dumbing Europe down:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair

Thank you for pointing out that error of mine Precious! The truth is ugly enough as it is, there is no reason for me to falsify history to make a point!

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Well paraclete did say that allowing the refugees in will lead to overall dumbing down and cultural decline. I can imagine that would set some on the defensive.

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I am not a Muslim, so I don't have to be defensive.

Paraclete seems to think that Christianity is superior to Islam, so I had to set the record straight. I know that I won't get through to someone as ignorant as them, but, if someone else reads this thread, at least that person can check the facts and reach their own conclusion.

People like Smoothy and Raclete are lost causes, but if I can even help understand one person that Muslims are people just like they are, I have reached my goal.

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Originally Posted by misspurple77

Especially not that misogynistic, homophobic sadistic egomaniac that the Abrahamic God is supposed to be, according to his own "word": the Talmud, Bible and Koran. First he wants to keep Adam and Eve ignorant, when they eat of the apple of wisdom anyway, he acts like a toddler with a tantrum and curses mankind for all eternity. Then he commits genocide, by letting everyone except for Noah and his family being killed by a flood. In Sodom and Gomorra he does that again! And why the hell does he has to be so cold hearted to let Lot's wife turn into salt, because she looks back? But what he does to Job or to Egypt is so sadistic, that I really can't respect that God.

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Someday you and I can have a private pow-wow about this. :) I'll explain what it's all about. (It's not what it seems.)

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Originally Posted by misspurple77

if I can even help understand one person that Muslims are people just like they are, I have reached my goal.

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But bashing smoothy and 'clete et al. won't make that magic understanding happen. There are better ways.

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Originally Posted by misspurple77

I am not a Muslim, so I don't have to be defensive.

Paraclete seems to think that Christianity is superior to Islam, so I had to set the record straight. I know that I won't get through to someone as ignorant as them, but, if someone else reads this thread, at least that person can check the facts and reach their own conclusion.

People like Smoothy and Raclete are lost causes, but if I can even help understand one person that Muslims are people just like they are, I have reached my goal.

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Really YOU are the person making slurs against Americans and White people and Christians... You are so arrogant you are incapable of grasping the concept that your world view exists only in your own head...

MILLIONS of Muslims support Terrorism... that means Millions of Muslims are subhuman. Millions are not an insignificant number. Dozens maybe... I might even agree with hundreds, but Millions not a chance.

And here YOU go again.. suporting Islam... the Religion of hatred and oppression... Christianity IS superior to Islam... In fact so is every other religion as well as Atheism. Everything is superior to Islam. Because except for any Cults out there....none oppress or preach hatred like Islam does.

Funny for someone who claims to be an Atheist... you have some unholy Love for Islam. Its obvious you know little about it.


Facts?...your fantasies and world view are sadly lacking in any facts....Mine are based completely on facts...and personal direct ACTUAL experience. Which DWARFS any life experience you have had so far.

And YOU opened yourself up for this when you started Bashing Americans and white people earlier. I have every right to dish it back because I am both White AND American....and damn proud of it.


And all the "Genocides" you blamed White people for....if you have half the education you think you have...you would know all the biggest ones were committed by Atheists ( and they were NOT all White either)( does Stalin, MAO and Pol Pot come to mind? And they killed far more than Hitler as bad as he was)...followed by Muslims (convert or die every place they ever invaded and still do to this current day). The other groups being far less significant than those.

Unless you plan to dream up some more Facts.

Apparently you were not old enough to vividly remember the world wide coverage of Muslims cheering on 9/11. I and many of us on the other hand were....and will never forget it. THAT said everything about Islam that anyone needs to know.

And I narrowly escaped being one of those 9/11 victims...so EXCUSE me if I get extremely IRATE when someone claims that was a minority. Beause that apparently doesn't fit into the fantasy world view you have. Sorry but reality isn't always pretty.

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Someday you and I can have a private pow-wow about this. :) I'll explain what it's all about. (It's not what it seems.)


But bashing smoothy and 'clete et al. won't make that magic understanding happen. There are better ways.

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They started the bashing first, and since I am not a Chistian anymore, I don't have to turn the other cheek anymore:-). I really don't see why I can't call bigots bigots, if they called me ignorant, that I should be ashamed of myself, naïve, a teenager, lying that I am an atheist, while I am a closeted Muslim etc.

And all the bad things that they do say about Muslims, are things that they are saying about my mother, my mothers family, my Muslim colleagues (at the gym) and my one Muslim friend. So although they aren't calling me an barbaric animal and terrorist, they are saying that about people that I love, which is also disrespectfull towards me.

I watched the movie My Name is Khan recently, because it is about Asperger's Syndrome. But it is also about the atrocious way in which Muslims are treated in the US today. When I saw it, I thought that they were excaggerating the situation for dramatic effect, but now that I have met Smoothy and Raclete, I know that it unfortunately isn't just fiction. You should really watch that movie if you haven't seen it, it really made me cry!

I am really shocked by the hatred those two are shamelessly exhibiting towards Muslims. People like them give Christians a bad name. I am really, really, really shocked.

But indeed, my question was, what does work against that? Is there an answer to that question? Do you know it? Because honestly, I am inclined to just give up hope of a tolerant planet, like the one John Lennon imagined. I am glad that I don't have children, so I don't have to worry about what world they need to live in or worry about them getting poisoned with hate against Muslims or refugees.

I am watching reruns of Dr. Quinn. On today's show, they build a school, that wasn't accesible for the black or Indian children, only for the white children and the reverent of Colorado Springs was okay with that. I thought, we are living a 150 years later, but unfortunately, that way of thinking hasn't been abolished my mankind.

Why didn't you speak up, about the disrespect towards Muslims? Do you think that it is okay call Muslims moongod worshippers, terrorists or animals? Or do you think that Smoothy and Raclete are lost causes, so that it is a waste of your time and energy to confront them with the baseless hatred that they are exhibiting?

Yes Christianity is superior to Islam, Islam does not offer eternal salvation, it offers a life of trying to appease God with your works and what is the chief work by which an islamic nut case can arrive in paradise, kill yourself in a religious cause. Of course, Christianity is superior to that. You forget even muslims believe in Jesus Christ they just have a confused view of who he is

I am opposed to the attitude of these muslims who invade the countries of others, who kill and mame each other and if you have ever been in a muslim country you will know live in abject squalor when their leaders live in luxury. I can understand why they want to get out but there is such a thing as the rule of law which needs to be respected. I am opposed to Daesh and everything it stands for. I am opposed to a people who would cheer when the towers were attacked and thousands killed and I am opposed to a people who would tear their country apart because of a 1,400 year old schism and then flee rather than fight. I am opposed to religious idiots like the Taliban, you like Islam, go and get a taste of what theirs is like for a woman

In this world people are judged by their actions

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Why didn't you speak up, about the disrespect towards Muslims? Do you think that it is okay call Muslims moongod worshippers, terrorists or animals? Or do you think that Smoothy and Raclete are lost causes, so that it is a waste of your time and energy to confront them with the baseless hatred that they are exhibiting?

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I've been biding my time until the vitriol has dispersed and I can get a word in edgewise. :)

My experiences with Muslims have been always good ones.

And today my older son was finally officially and formally diagnosed with Asperger's, so thank you, misspurple, for your advice in the past.

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Yep: Debunking: we spoke to the guy who shot the video purportedly showing migrants refusing Red Cross aid - Il Post

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Thank you. It is really nice to have someone else on this thread who is not buying into or helping spreading all the Islamophobic nonsense that I am reading here!

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They started the bashing first, and since I am not a Chistian anymore, I don't have to turn the other cheek anymore:-). I really don't see why I can't call bigots bigots, if they called me ignorant, that I should be ashamed of myself, naïve, a teenager, lying that I am an atheist, while I am a closeted Muslim etc.

And all the bad things that they do say about Muslims, are things that they are saying about my mother, my mothers family, my Muslim colleagues (at the gym) and my one Muslim friend. So although they aren't calling me an barbaric animal and terrorist, they are saying that about people that I love, which is also disrespectfull towards me.

I watched the movie My Name is Khan recently, because it is about Asperger's Syndrome. But it is also about the atrocious way in which Muslims are treated in the US today. When I saw it, I thought that they were excaggerating the situation for dramatic effect, but now that I have met Smoothy and Raclete, I know that it unfortunately isn't just fiction. You should really watch that movie if you haven't seen it, it really made me cry!

I am really shocked by the hatred those two are shamelessly exhibiting towards Muslims. People like them give Christians a bad name. I am really, really, really shocked.

But indeed, my question was, what does work against that? Is there an answer to that question? Do you know it? Because honestly, I am inclined to just give up hope of a tolerant planet, like the one John Lennon imagined. I am glad that I don't have children, so I don't have to worry about what world they need to live in or worry about them getting poisoned with hate against Muslims or refugees.

I am watching reruns of Dr. Quinn. On today's show, they build a school, that wasn't accesible for the black or Indian children, only for the white children and the reverent of Colorado Springs was okay with that. I thought, we are living a 150 years later, but unfortunately, that way of thinking hasn't been abolished my mankind.

Why didn't you speak up, about the disrespect towards Muslims? Do you think that it is okay call Muslims moongod worshippers, terrorists or animals? Or do you think that Smoothy and Raclete are lost causes, so that it is a waste of your time and energy to confront them with the baseless hatred that they are exhibiting?

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Hey, so YOU are a liar too... that's obvious... You love to dish it out but you aren't mature enough to take it... Oh poor thing. All you have done is Bash Americans, white people and Christians... anyone who does not agree with your marrow minded world view. After all YOU called everyone that disagreed with you bigots.

There is a better word for people like you... but unlike you... I'm mature enough to not throw it out there.

I don't care if you are Female... the minute you start berating others that disagree with you... then you get treated like any guy who does it.

I normally wouldn't wish many of the things I've seen and experienced on anyone else.....but you've earned it. I do hope you get to see many if not all the things I have. Because that's what it would take for you to see how wrong you are about everything.

Maybe the next terrorist strike in Europe will kill some people you know well and maybe it will almost kill you, that way you can think about it almost every day for decades to come. When that happens come back and tell us you feel the same way about the true Islam.

Maybe you will see close up and smell over a hundred dead and burned bodies killed by Muslims for no valid reason in just ONE location...let that smell be stuck in your head for decades later, and that vision haunt you in your sleep for just as long....or the hundreds of others.

Until you have experienced that....then you aren't qualified to comment on how I think and what I say about that certain group.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I've been biding my time until the vitriol has dispersed and I can get a word in edgewise. :)

My experiences with Muslims have been always good ones.

And today my older son was finally officially and formally diagnosed with Asperger's, so thank you, misspurple, for your advice in the past.

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Okay, now you are using to complicated words for a nonnative English speaker, what does

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biding my time until the vitriol has dispersed and I can get a word in edgewise 


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mean?

You're welcome:-)! Have you seen My Name is Khan yet? That movie is made in cooperation with the UK foundation for autism, to give an as accurate as possible depiction of Asperger's, so it is really a must see. I had my mother, my baby sister and a good friend of mine watch the movie as well! Just keep some tissues at hand, when you are going to watch it!

I agree with the mother of Khan in that movie: there are only two kinds of people, good people and bad people, religion has nothing to do with it!

I haven't seen that movie, so will be sure to get it and watch it. And you read Be Different by John Elder Robison. Also, Tony Attwood has written books on Asperger's.

"...biding my time" -- waiting
"vitriol" -- cruel and bitter criticism