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Funny, but am I the only one seeing the disconnect between the one saying it's about patenting being the one excusing poor parenting?

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Patenting and parenting... just one letter different. God bless the FDA!

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Didn't say it would be easy to reverse....cats out of the bag already.

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So you do want to go back to the good old days before TV at least.

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How does a parent who has never known discipline discipline their kids, it just doesn't happen

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Parenting classes.

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Who gets to dictate the moral standards....Hillary Clinton and her village? I sure as hell hope not. And I sure as heck hope it snot Moochelle Obama either...

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They both seem to be great moms to me. Great kids too!

Getting back to the OP sort of, Nanny Bloomberg's latest foray into nannyism is forcing stores to hide cigarettes. Yeah, if they don't see them no one will buy them. Got to hand it to Bloomy, he's trying to single-handedly save New York from itself.

Hello again, Steve:

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he's trying to single-handedly save New York from itself.

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The problem with right wingers is you aren't able to PROJECT. Maybe it's the genes, I don't know.. To ME, he's trying to save you a nickel or two.

Even before Obamacare, your position was that EVERYBODY gets health care. Consequently, YOU and I pay for an unhealthy lifestyle. Therefore, your support of that lifestyle costs us LOTS of money. I don't understand the disconnect over there.

I'm not disconnected, though. There's TWO solutions to the problem as I see it.. We can SUPPORT healthy living, or we can STOP paying for it and let these people die on the street.

I have a hunch which one you'd pick.

Excon

You don't think you need permission from the government to smoke a joint, I don't think I need permission from the government to eat fried chicken.

For all the blunder I hear from your side about how the right loves imposing our will on everyone you sure expend a lot of energy and resources imposing your will on us. You do know that people are making healthier choices now don't you? You do know that restaurants are expanding their healthier menus don't you? You do know that more and more people are reading labels, and that stores are pushing healthier alternatives don't you? I don't think people are as stupid as you do so I feel no compulsion to ban them from buying a soda. That and it's not about money, it's about freedom.

See we CAN project but every time I do you mock us. We see you coming after our guns, and you are, and you say "no one is coming after your guns."

I see Bloomy doing these half-a$$ed bans and know there's more to it. If he can get us to accept a ban here and a ban there, and desensitize us to his incremental approach to the nanny state then before you know it, it's here. You're doing it with healthcare, you're doing it with energy - you're trying to control our lives. And I say, back off.

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So you do want to go back to the good old days before TV at least.

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I remember the days before most people had a Color TV... I even remember before all network TV shows were broadcast in color. I however am not nearly old enough to remember days before TV. That was way before my time.

Those days are gone, nice memories but we ain't going back.

Pity the struggling bodega grocer in NY . One of the best markups is the sale of tobacco products ,and Nanny Bloomy would prohibit the display of a legal product .Of course the same businessperson can display a large assortment of condoms ,porn ,and OTC cold remedies that don't work. But... no cigarettes (fat cigars are OK because Bloomy's gumbas smoke them) ;and no salt packets for the food the store is permitted to sell .

Maybe the store owner should break open the packs and sell the cigarettes in baggies . That type of transaction happens routinely in NYC ,and it's largely tolerated .

And the Obama's got the kiddies covered.. like the soup Nazi... "no Rice Krispies for you !!" Snap! Crackle! Pop!: Rice Krispies May Be Banished From Schools - Law Blog - WSJ

My friend at Kellogg's is not going to be happy. First she learns they're a weapons manufacturer after the Pop Tart gun incident, now no Rice Krispies in school?

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I remember the days before most people had a Color TV....I even remember before all network tv shows were broadcast in color. I however am not nearly old enough to remember days before TV. That was way before my time.

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Strange, I can hear violins playing that haunting refrain memories... and what's her name singing in the background

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strange, I can hear violins playing that haunting refrain memories........................... and what's her name singing in the background

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Hey... just answering Tals question...

The same refrain to you both, I am probably older than both of you, but I try to live in the present

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They shouldn't get a welafre check....or anything else until they have been sterilized....so they don't continue to breed. If they can't properly feed themselves...they shouldn't be having any more kids.

We do it to pets because its the humane way to control strays...time to apply it the the non-productive part of the population.

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Great idea. Let's revise the Pre-World War 11 part of your eugenics history.

Please, give us all a break.

Let's not revive any part of pre WWII american history

Lol, but the record for sterilization after WW2 was just as bad. And they call Obama a nazi.

The American eugenics movement after World War II (part 3 of 3) | News Feature | Indy Week

Bad Blood: The Tuskegee Syphilis Study | www.hsl.virginia.edu

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Great idea. Let's revise the Pre-World War 11 part of your eugenics history.

Please, give us all a break.

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Lets try and revise your treatment of the Aborigines while we are at it.

And one of the biggest proponents of eugenics in this country was the founder of the left's most cherished organization, Margaret Sanger.

Sorry, you cannot tell the difference between birth control, and sterilization.

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Sorry, you cannot tell the difference between birth control, and sterilization.

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Not only was Sanger a proponent of eugenics, so was another of her cohorts your side idolizes, Alan Guttmacher. Birth control was but one method of achieving her goal eliminating the unfit.

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As part of her efforts to promote birth control, Sanger found common cause with proponents of eugenics, believing that they both sought to "assist the race toward the elimination of the unfit."[83] Sanger was a proponent of negative eugenics, which aims to improve human hereditary traits through social intervention by reducing reproduction by those considered unfit. Sanger's eugenic policies included an exclusionary immigration policy, free access to birth control methods and full family planning autonomy for the able-minded, and compulsory segregation or sterilization for the profoundly retarded.[84][85] In her book The Pivot of Civilization, she advocated coercion to prevent the "undeniably feeble-minded" from procreating.[86] Although Sanger supported negative eugenics, she asserted that eugenics alone was not sufficient, and that birth control was essential to achieve her goals.[87][88][89]

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You should probably be asking yourself about now why PP is involved in so many abortions for poor black women.