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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That's a huge problem I have with today's liberalism, "do as I say and not as I do" is their policy.

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Actually the same thing could be said of christianity... or conservatism... or any other group of people since you'll always find some not following the doctrine.

Love it when YOU conservatives do things and blame us for it. Instead of a jobs bill we get an abortion bill, and we blame the liberals, particularly the President. You find a bad egg, and blame the president. You see a gay guy you blame the president. Obstruct and blame that's all you guys can do.

All of a sudden there is a deficit, blame the poor. No jobs, blame the government. Every time a conservative does something, somebody else is to blame. Call them on it, they blame you and they call foul. Lets face it, conservatives get mad when you tell them the truth, and then blame YOU for not listening to the truth. Gut the government, starve the beast. Get out of there lives, but waste a bunch of time making sure a female has a baby so they both can be barefoot and pregnant, and poor... And blame her. Ain't no jobs bill, yet they ask where are the jobs? There are not enough conservatives to have a president, so purge the rolls of anybody with a funny name, 100, 000, or a million at a time, and that's fair because Mickey Mouse voted 50 times. Gun club ID is perfect, student ID is illegal.

This ain't no war on women, it's a war on anybody who ain't on the loony tune right, and it's the liberals fault, especially Obama. What does he know about true Americans! He is trying to destroy America and thank God the conservatives are going to take it back from the foreigners, and liberals.

Like Bill said, when the right screws it up, the left is there to fix it!! Trouble is, we know they will screw it up. It's there RIGHT to screw it up. That's why America needs a safety net in the first place!

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Actually the exact same thing could be said of christianity...or conservatism... or any other group of people since you'll always find some not following the doctrine.

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True. But I'm not blind to my hypocrisy like the left is.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Love it when YOU conservatives do things and blame us for it. Instead of a jobs bill we get an abortion bill, and we blame the liberals, particularly the President. You find a bad egg, and blame the president. You see a gay guy you blame the president. Obstruct and blame thats all you guys can do.

All of a sudden there is a deficit, blame the poor. No jobs, blame the government. Every time a conservative does something, somebody else is to blame. Call them on it, they blame you and they call foul. Lets face it, conservatives get mad when you tell them the truth, and then blame YOU for not listening to the truth. Gut the government, starve the beast. Get out of there lives, but waste a bunch of time making sure a female has a baby so they both can be barefoot and pregnant, and poor........................................And blame her. Ain't no jobs bill, yet they ask where are the jobs? There are not enough conservatives to have a president, so purge the rolls of anybody with a funny name, 100, 000, or a million at a time, and thats fair because Mickey Mouse voted 50 times. Gun club ID is perfect, student ID is illegal.

This ain't no war on women, its a war on anybody who ain't on the loony tune right, and its the liberals fault, especially Obama. What does he know about true Americans! He is trying to destroy America and thank God the conservatives are going to take it back from the foreigners, and liberals.

Like Bill said, when the right screws it up, the left is there to fix it!!! Trouble is, we know they will screw it up. Its there RIGHT to screw it up. Thats why America needs a safety net in the first place!

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Funny how you guys on the left never want to acknowledge when you're caught in a glaring hypocrisy. Oh no, let's deflect, distract and spew a few clichés instead of addressing the issue at hand.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Funny how you guys on the left never want to acknowledge when you're caught in a glaring hypocrisy. Oh no, let's deflect, distract and spew a few cliches instead of addressing the issue at hand.

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He doesn't do anything different than the conservatives do on this forum. Nothing different at all.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

He doesn't do anything different than the conservatives do on this forum. Nothing different at all.

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Hogwash.

That's a sound argument! LOL!

How's the baseball pool coming along? How's your dog?

Just calling 'em like I see 'em, and I see me destroying everyone in baseball. My dog is fine.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello clete:

Huh??

excon

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Just referring to an article I saw the other day where they say there are more women casualities than men in mexico as a result of the war on drugs

I'm conservative leaning, but I would have a real hard time being a member of the Republican party if I were American. They are no longer the party of Eisenhower, Ford or even Reagan. I can't think of any other Western country where a supposedly mainstream conservative party is controlled by extreme right-wing, religious fanatics and morons. I hope that more moderate conservatives will be able to steer the party in the right direction, but it doesn't look hopeful.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Funny how you guys on the left never want to acknowledge when you're caught in a glaring hypocrisy. Oh no, let's deflect, distract and spew a few clichés instead of addressing the issue at hand.

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Throw rocks, and expect to get rocked. Casual debate, we debate the facts, and can find them through the BS on both sides! So what do you want to do? Talk or throw rocks? Makes no difference to me.

To the war on women, legislatures, and the congress is making them pretty mad I would say. The minorities are mad, so are the citizens. I think we all are tired of OUR elected politicians serving some one other than US!

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Originally Posted by earl237

I'm conservative leaning, but I would have a real hard time being a member of the Republican party if I were American. They are no longer the party of Eisenhower, Ford or even Reagan. I can't think of any other Western country where a supposedly mainstream conservative party is controlled by extreme right-wing, religious fanatics and morons. I hope that more moderate conservatives will be able to steer the party in the right direction, but it doesn't look hopeful.

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See, even conservatives are not satisfied.

There is a lot of polarisation of views today and much negative thinking. The tactics of fear have been working. The idea of there being a consensus and some middle ground has left the political arena. Even if politicians agree on a solution they differ on the details and so nothing is done

In sports it's the stall tactic, run the clock out, and then win by a point, or a few million bucks. This started on the inauguration of the current president, and the rocks have been flying since. The goal, to make this a one term president, and regain the house, senate, and white house.

Give more power to rich elites by keeping the Bush tax cuts, and making everything privatized. That's the agenda.

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In sports its the stall tactic, run the clock out, and then win by a point, or a few million bucks. This started on the inauguration of the current president, and the rocks have been flying since. The goal, to make this a one term president, and regain the house, senate, and white house.

Give more power to rich elites by keeping the Bush tax cuts, and making everything privatized. Thats the agenda.

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Privatisation is the centre piece of your economy, it is big enough to have services provided by private enterprise. Tax cuts are not a bad thing if you have a balanced budget but someone must pay for last years benefits and the mistakes of past presidents. Since many of these mistakes have been republican they should pay their share.

Let's get back to basics, there is no such thing as a free lunch

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Throw rocks, and expect to get rocked. Casual debate, we debate the facts, and can find them thru the BS on both sides!! So what do you want to do? Talk or throw rocks? Makes no difference to me.

To the war on women, legislatures, and the congress is making them pretty mad I would say. The minorities are mad, so are the citizens. I think we all are tired of OUR elected politicians serving some one other than US!

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Video evidence of a clinic violating the law to perform sex-selective abortions isn't rock throwing. It's sunshine, and it deserves more than a clichéd deflection.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

See, even conservatives are not satisfied.

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Earl doesn't get a vote here but hey, I wish Reagan was still running things, too. He made us feel good about being Americans and he was a leader. Out front, not from behind.

And he acted Presidential... He didn't make crude sexual innuendo jokes at gay fundraisers.

Hello again,

Wow. Did you know that you can REGULATE what a vagina DOES, but you can't say the word?? That's the way it is in Michigan.

But, there's no war on women... Look over there. Obama is doing something..

excon

Yeah, that was real classy comment to make on the house floor. Personally, I don't care if she says the word vagina or not, but the fact is abortion regulations are not about her vagina any more than her day long ban from speaking on the house floor is about the word vagina. The first is about the child inside and the second is about decorum.

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It is the responsibility of the Majority Floor Leader, the presiding officer and every Representative to maintain the decorum of the House... Stamas has informed Minority Floor Leader Segal that Reps. Brown and Byrum will not be recognized to speak on the House floor today after being gaveled down for their comments and actions yesterday that failed to maintain the decorum of the House of Representatives.

Under Rep. Stamas’ floor leadership, the House Republicans have allowed more debate on the House floor than ever seen in the past few sessions when House Democrats were in charge. House Republicans often go beyond simply allowing debate by welcoming open and passionate discussion of the issues before this chamber. The only way we can continue doing so, however, is to ensure that the proper level of maturity and civility are maintained on the House floor.

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