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Originally Posted by tomder55

Good ,then I'll use massive amt's of growth hormones on the diseased beef I raise and and you'll gladly purchase it from me .

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Originally Posted by smoothy

How about regulating where convicted sex offenders are able to live, hang out or work?

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Hello liberals:

Nope, and Nope!

Use what you will on your beef. It'll kill people and the lame stream media will report it. I'll read about it, and no - I ain't going to be your customer... That protection doesn't involve the nanny state... It involves the FREE MARKET at work.

If sex offenders need to be watched, they shouldn't be out. I have no problem with putting 'em away for good the FIRST time.

See you, liberals.

excon

Ex,
I'm on to you.

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Hello liberals:

Nope, and Nope!

Use what you will on your beef. It'll kill people and the lame stream media will report it. I'll read about it, and no - I ain't gonna be your customer... That protection doesn't involve the nanny state... It involves the FREE MARKET at work.
excon

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No skin off my nose . I'll sell my beef at discount prices and I'll sell it out . I'll give back rewards to purchasers ; I'll sell it to people who don't read or pay attention to the news (a growing segment of the population) .They won't know about the harmful affects until long after I've vacated the farm and retired.

The problem is not regulation of the market.. it is useless ,counterproductive and excessive regulations that are the problem. I don't know of any free market conservative who thinks there should be absolutes like you are arguing for... and in truth ,I don't really think you believe the position you are taking on this issue . If there is any role for government it is in public safety .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

No skin off my nose . I'll sell my beef at discount prices and I'll sell it out . I'll give back rewards to purchasers ; I'll sell it to people who don't read or pay attention to the news (a growing segment of the population) .They won't know about the harmful affects until long after I've vacated the farm and retired.

If there is any role for government it is in public safety .

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Hello again, tom:

I don't disagree. I'm not an anarchist. Certainly, the criminal code would still exist. In my free market world, you'd STILL be in jail for killing people.

Besides, you're not saying, are you, that in our current heavily regulated environment, business is PREVENTED from adulterating their products?? Really?? Dude!

excon

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In my free market world, you'd STILL be in jail for killing people.

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How could I be jailed for utilizing a legal ingredient ? There is no such a thing as an adulterated product unless there is a law associated with it ;even if it's only laws requiring accurate labelling . It is still government intervention in the "caveat emptor" world .

How about regulations preventing pot smokers from driving Subway trains... or any passenger carrying conveyance like Buses, planes etc..

Because I can quote cases where deaths have resulted from a stoned operator. JUST in the Washington DC Metro system

Thanks to a bipartisan anti-smoking statute, the nanny state's FDA has come up with some nice images to take up half the space of a pack of cigarettes, corpses, rotten lungs and teeth, etc.

Next up if they haven't banned Happy Meals, burgers and fries altogether - images of bypass surgery on your fries and 900 lb people on your hamburger wrapper. Or...

There is not any evidence of a connection between children eating a happy meal and childhood obesity . That is why the attack against Micky D's by the clueless San Fran leaders is wrong . What they are doing is favoring other fast food places that do not include toys with the meal... it's not even that these other restaurants are offering a healthier alternative. Micky D's and Burger King should take this action to court .

Or they could sell the toy for the price of a meal and give the burger ,fries and drink away for the purchase of the toy. The toys are sure to be a hit at the Folsom Street Fair.

I hear Michelle is pushing for them to replace the happy meal with the McWagyu

The problem with kids being fat... is they are being fed too much and too much of the wrong things by their parents.

When did NO become a dirty word... and when did responsible parents start to take their kids to McDonalds often enough for them to become grossly overweight as a result.

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There is not any evidence of a connection between children eating a happy meal and childhood obesity .

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Hello again, tom:

I'm sorry. The feds DON'T need evidence. I hear they're producing a film called "French Fry Maddness". No, of course, its not true, but that hasn't stopped 'em before. As long as they can LIE to ban stuff, and it's JUST FINE WITH YOU, I'm not feeling your pain...

excon

You mean like Al Gores... An inconvienient truth... which is anything but. Or any other movie that moron Director produced.

Hello smoothy:

Try to focus... Do I understand that you support the nanny state ban on marijuana, but decry the ban on happy meal toys?

Aren't YOU the guy who made a thread called inconsistency and liberals?? I think you did. Can you see the hypocrisy and inconsistency in your position? I don't think you can.

excon

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Hello smoothy:

Try to focus... Do I understand that you support the nanny state ban on marijuana, but decry the ban on happy meal toys?

Aren't YOU the guy who made a thread called inconsistency and liberals??? I think you did. Can you see the hypocrisy and inconsistency in your position? I don't think you can.

excon

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Illegal drug use has NOTHING in common with banning plastic toys for kids.

You never answered my question about if you agreed with regulating Public Transportation operators regarding drug use... because we have had multiple cases of Metro Transit accidents with multiple fatalities that were directly caused by marijuana use... as manditory drug tests after the accident proved they were stoned. And it happens quite often if I can pull multiple instances JUST here in my area it happens other places too. You just won't hear the pro pot lobby reporting on it.

Now if you want to discuss how the right to put lives at risk driving stoned is equal to a fast food restaurant giving a plastic toy in a meal to a child the kids parents voluntarily bought, I'd like to hear it...

Because I don't remember Public Transit Passengers being asked of it was cool for the driver to smoke a doobie when they boarded... and no... if it was a bottle of Jack Daniels instead it would be no different.

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I hear Michelle is pushing for them to replace the happy meal with the McWagyu

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With a side of yams.

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Illegal drug use has NOTHING in common with banning plastic toys for kids.

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Hello again, smoothy:

The two positions, i.e. banning marijuana, for our own good, and banning toys, for our own good, have NOTHING in common with each other... Right...

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

The two positions, i.e. banning marijuana, for our own good, and banning toys, for our own good, have NOTHING in common with each other... Right....

excon

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YOU might want to be on a bus, plane or train opperated by someone stoned... or driving on the highway next to one... the rest of us don't. You support legalizing drunk driving too?

Now what THAT has to do with a plastic toy in a meal that hurts nobody..?


How about hunting trips on the border to pick off illegals?

I think the Feds packaging safaris for that can bring in money to the treasury and put a dent in the illegals problem both. After all, why regulate anything... lets have a free-for-all.

Lead paint... Chinese lead toys... Federal safety regulations... etc

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Originally Posted by smoothy

YOU might want to be on a bus, plane or train opperated by someone stoned......or driving on the highway next to one.....the rest of us don't.

Now what THAT has to do with a plastic toy in a meal that hurts nobody....???????????????

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Hello again, smoothy:

I got news for you. 25 million people smoke pot regularly. Don't you think you've been on a highway with one or two, or maybe been on a bus with a stoned driver? Did you live? Pot is NOT alcohol. In fact, it's actually marijuana that doesn't hurt anybody, but a plastic toy could kill a child...

excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

I got news for you. 25 million people smoke pot regularly. Don't you think you've been on a highway with one or two, or maybe been on a bus with a stoned driver? Did you live? Pot is NOT alcohol. In fact, it's actually marijuana that doesn't hurt anybody, but a plastic toy could kill a child...

excon

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What complete and total BS...

Pot does effect reactions... simular to alcohol... and in fact Stoned people KILL others... just like any drunk.

But then... you are far from objective about drugs... you simply discard any evidence that disproves any claims the stoners make...

And there have been SERIOUS accidents caused by Stoned operators... PROVEN by drug tests. Not one... not two... but many. There have been several Metrobus and Metrorail accidents HERE that the drivers tested positive for Pot use after the crash... not all survived.

But then... if your drug of choice was Cocaine... you would want that made legal too... or Heroine. There are far more legitimate uses that are proven by non-junkies for Opiates than there are for Pot... most of which are harped by the pot smokers themselves... so no... not a chance they have a bias and agenda to push their propaganda...

Cigarettes have never hurt a sole either... nor has beer... or Whiskey... or crack... hell lets just legalize streetwalking. Why regulate Teachers... lets let released rapists work in women's centers... schools... etc... after all, you think the Government has no business regulationg anything. Like drilling for oil off the pacific coast. I'm all for Drilling for oil off the west coast... they use lots of fuel... so... no drilling allowed... then no fuel goes there.

Hello again, smoothy:

If you'd like to start a drug thread, I'll join. But, for purposes of THIS thread, let's recap; you're fine with the nanny state banning stuff, as long as you THINK it should be banned. But if you DON'T think it should be banned, it should NOT be banned.

Does that about sum it up? Okee dokee.

excon