Don't think you will slice and dice and justify repubs ZEAL for restricting the rights of others to further their own religious agenda on the non believer for their own good. That's crap, and we all know beneath the thin veneer of righteousness we have the heavy hand of tyranny by you guys.

The war on PP is the direct war on the people who don't have the means to defend themselves against your agenda because the ones that can afford a private physician don't even listen, nor care about the crazy stuff you guys holler about.

You guys are nothing but bullies and stalkers because nationally your ideas and policies have been rejected decisively, and you can only find solace in the regional pockets that you cheat to keep. And in many of those you will be yet again rejected.

Its only a matter of time. Just keep hollering so you keep being exposed.

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Rome's Leviathian was a one world government like the libs dream of today. . Rome put their people on Bread and Circuses... the equivalence of the modern nanny welfare state.To pay for this largess ,the Romans slashed military spending and debased the currency . The emperors created a massive bureaucracy to run the government... same here .Values deteriorated ,same as modern post-constitutional secular liberal America. Infanticide was practiced in the declining decadent Roman Empire same as post Roe liberal America. Romans persecuted the Christians .Obama's liberal America wants them to do things that violate their religious conscious .
Rome made no effort to control it's borders and massive influxes of Germans crossed the Roman open borders . The libs want open borders here . The reasons are the same. They wanted the cheap labor to do the menial tasks that was beneath the subsidized populace.But of course they needed the alien population because abortion, and infanticide had taken it's toll .
The middle class of Rome were the merchants and traders . In the earliest days of the Republic Rome's taxes were modest, consisting mainly of a wealth tax on all forms of property, including land, houses, slaves, animals, money and personal effects. Beginning with the third century B.C. Rome began to tax the middle class out of existence... just like the good ole USA .

That' s the very basic comparison.

“If Sparta and Rome perished, what state can hope to last forever?” ( Rousseau'The Social Contract.')

Well Tom we will welcome the decline of this empire too, it has already contracted its boundries letting go of some of its conquests, but the USA was never Sparta and never Rome so it doesn't have as far to fall. Empires don't last as long as they used to

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Tut why do you keep deleting your replies ?

Perhaps he thought better of the comment, I sometimes do but the limited ability to alter anything means there is only one alternative

I was going to address his eugenics comment.

Hello again, tom:

Well, why don't you address the Pope QUITTING this morning?? I guess he READ my posts.. He should be in JAIL!!

excon

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Hello again, tom:

Well, why don't you address the Pope QUITTING this morning??? I guess he READ my posts.. He should be in JAIL!!!

excon

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Obama and Bill Clinton are both walking the streets... they should both be in JAIL.

Yeah nice.. he's resigning because of health!! The sex abuse scandal did not happen under his watch ;and he has addressed it in policy decisions and actions including assigning a prosecutor to the case.

Hello smoothy:

I didn't know the right wing was SOOOO pro child abuse. You learn something every day on this website.

Let me see if I can figure this out.. Clinton LIED about having sex with ONE adult. The Catholic church, on the other hand, as an ORGANIZATION, MOLESTED thousands and thousands of children, and ruined their lives...

Obama committed NO crime, except being born black.

How you can conflate these issues, and say they're the same is actually quite insane.. Does it surprise me that the right wing is out of touch with reality?? Nahhhh. I pay attention.

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The Catholic church, on the other hand, as an ORGANIZATION, MOLESTED thousands and thousands of children, and ruined their lives...

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Absolutely not true... it was individual priests committing the crime and rogue Bishops covering it up . It was not an organizational decision... unless you take into account the opening up the priesthood to abusive homosexuals after Vatican II .

Hello again, tom:

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absolutely not true... it was individual priests committing the crime and rogue Bishops covering it up .

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That's what I thought. Then I saw the movie, and I don't think that anymore.

You sound like an apologist for the church... If there weren't so many of you, this would have been over years ago, and countless other children would have been SAVED from RAPE.

See the movie.. I don't expect it'll convince you, but see it anyway.

Excon

PS> (edited) So, you think the release of the move a WEEK ago, and this resignation is simply coincidental? This hasn't happened in 719 years...

Pro child abuse? You've gone off the deep end.

Hello again, Steve:

When members of an organization commit CRIMES, and their leaders COVER it UP, you'd call it organized crime. So would I.

You TOO sound like an apologist for the Catholic church.

excon

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Hello again, Steve:

When members of an organization commit CRIMES, and they're leaders COVER it UP, you'd call it organized crime. So would I.

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You TOO sound like an apologist for the Catholic church.

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For calling you on your "pro child abuse" nonsense? I thought you were for having rational discussions.

Defending first amendment rights does not make one "pro child abuse" any more than going to school in Indonesia makes Obama a Muslim.

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absolutely not . I have joined Catholic organizations that are demanding accountability .

Hello again, tom:

See the movie.

excon

excon, Bill Clinton should have gotten Jail time for the Perjury conviction he got. And yes he WAS convicted of it.

If any of us had committed perjury... we would have done time in jail for it. A not insignificant amount of time in jail.

The Pope has not been accused much less convicted of a single case of child abuse... unlike a certain former president.