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Ex you know that without the single payer option you have to have someone in play,

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Why because in a single payer system no one pays ? What a fantasy !

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Why because in a single payer system no one pays ?

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I don't understand, can you expand on that.

It appears HHS stole the software for Glitchapalooza.

Not sure why the owners of the copyright would want to take credit, but still, the federal government can't just take what it wants.

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It appears HHS stole the software for Glitchapalooza.

Not sure why the owners of the copyright would want to take credit, but still, the federal government can't just take what it wants.

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I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.

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I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.

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I read that the budget tripled this year and what we got was a site that wasn't even tested until this month.

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Why because in a single payer system no one pays ? What a fantasy !

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That's not right Tom we have a single payer system and a copayment is demanded by doctors in some instances, but all this hooha at the bottom reaches of the system you are experiencing are avoided. I have been over this ground before but you reject the obvious on ideological grounds, a single payer system can work without destroying competition

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I wonder where all the money went to make the thing in the first place? I haven't heard anyone talking about it yet but for the money spent it should have been flawless.

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here was a no-bid contract with Obama contributors who were fired by Canadian gvt. (CGI Group)

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here was a no-bid contract with Obama contributors who were fired by Canadian gvt. (CGI Group)

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And the website design firm was Teal Media, formed by a former Obama campaign staffer, which just pulled it's Healthcare.gov credit from their site.

Design Firm Removes All Reference To Its Work On Obamacare From Its Website

They've since restored it although I can't imagine why. Why are we giving it to insiders, donors and outsourcing it to Canada - especially if they aren't up to the task?

Hello again,

You DIDN'T have to shut the government down and cost the US $24 BILLION.. All you had to do was wait for THIS fiasco.. But, NOOOOOO, you had to put us $24 BILLION further in debt..

Good job, right wingers..

excon

Sky high prices,deductibles that scare off just about everyone that can get through the broken website and now :

Insurers say the federal health-care marketplace is generating flawed data that is straining their ability to handle even the trickle of enrollees who have gotten through so far, in a sign that technological problems extend further than the website traffic and software issues already identified.

Emerging errors include duplicate enrollments, spouses reported as children, missing data fields and suspect eligibility determinations, say executives at more than a dozen health plans

Obamacare woes widen as insurers get wrong data - MarketWatch

The biggest thing plaguing Obamacare isn't the computer code .It's the "code " written into the legislation and the regulatory "code " that now reaches into the 10s of thousands pf pages .

Everything about it is a disaster.

Interesting article by the Canadian Free Press.

A Criminal Enterprise Called the Democratic Party

The Canadian Free Press is anything but Canadian or free. Do a little research about them.

Here is some other interesting reading from actual Canadian press:
U.S. shutdown climbdown: the 'triumph' of the Republican surrender monkeys - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
The comments below the story are telling as well.

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The Canadian Free Press is anything but Canadian or free. Do a little research about them.

Here is some other interesting reading from actual Canadian press:
U.S. shutdown climbdown: the 'triumph' of the Republican surrender monkeys - CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
The comments below the story are telling as well.

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Just because you are a socialist... doesn't make everyone else in Canada a socialist.

Socialists will tell any lie to further their agenda...right out of Sol Alinsky's Rules for Radicals...and why lefties can't be trused to walk your dog, or anything else.

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Just because you are a socialist.

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You're funny. Was that supposed to be an insult? And how did you come to that conclusion from my post?

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You're funny. Was that supposed to be an insult? And how did you come to that conclusion from my post?

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How is it an Insult if you embrace it?


I come to that conclusion not by your post in this thread... but by your posts in most threads.

Ok, thanks.
Try to lower your blood pressure this weekend.
I gots to go socialize. :)

The idea behind it to make sure everybody have high quality healthy life was beautiful. It is then another topic how it works on real life.

Think about this . The Republicans were never going to support the plan. Obama had to lie to his own constituency to get their support . Historians will have to acknowledge the critics were right.It has turned out to be a bad deal for people who had insurance already and for a lot of people who got coverage for the first time. Rather than coming down, costs went up as critics claimed .Just about every person who predicted premiums would increase dramatically was called a "liar," a "scaremonger"

lies

you can keep your plan
you can keep your doctor
your premiums will go down by $2500
those with preexisting conditions will be protected
you will have greater access to health care

Obama's 'You Can Keep It' Promise Is 'Lie Of The Year' : The Two-Way : NPR