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  • Mar 10, 2021, 11:55 AM
    talaniman
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    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    yes looney gun culture

    Guns aren't the problem...the loons are.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 05:10 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Here is an example of our mentally alert pres at work. He can't remember the name of the Sec. of Defense, and he refers to the Department of Defense as "that outfit".

    Please send me your endorsed $1400 stimulus check.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 05:31 PM
    jlisenbe
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    Please send me your endorsed $1400 stimulus check.
    You don't need it. I don't need it. Most of the people getting it don't need it. Many people in prison will get a check. Ridiculous. It's just an attempt to buy votes with borrowed money and we have become dumb enough to fall for it.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 05:47 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You don't need it. I don't need it.

    Mine will help the homeless, animal shelters, and military vets. Who will yours help?
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    It's just an attempt to buy votes with borrowed money and we have become dumb enough to fall for it.
    Ha, ha! Trump missed the boat on this one!
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:15 PM
    paraclete
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    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Please send me your endorsed $1400 stimulus check.

    How can I get mine, this is too good to pass up
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:16 PM
    jlisenbe
    So the feds are supposed to send us borrowed money with no idea of how to pay it back so you can boast about helping the poor? Well...OK.

    Actually, I applaud your charity. It’s just ridiculous to think of needing borrowed fed money to do it. This all seems to be funny to you. I think that’s sad.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:21 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So the feds are supposed to send us borrowed money with no idea of how to pay it back

    Trump and his pals could have easily put up the money out of their own pockets.
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    Actually, I applaud your charity. It’s just ridiculous to think of needing borrowed fed money to do it. I realize this is all a joke to you. That’s sad.
    No applause, please. Those, and others, are the charities and groups I regularly support. Now I have to figure out the exchange rate for Australia. *grin* P.S. $100 USD = $129.42 AUD
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:29 PM
    jlisenbe
    If you think trump and his pals could have put up the money, then you have no idea how much 1.9 trillion dollars is.

    It’s six thousand dollars for every man, woman, and child in America. But if it’s all funny to you, then I can’t help you.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:34 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If you think trump and his pals could have put up the money, then you have no idea how much 1.9 trillion dollars is.

    His pals are all those who have a million dollars or more.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 06:51 PM
    jlisenbe
    You know nothing of math. A trillion is a million million. So all you have to do is find a two million people to give a million dollars each so WG can donate to a dog shelter. Yeah. That makes sense.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:05 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Trump and his pals could have easily put up the money out of their own pockets.

    No applause, please. Those, and others, are the charities and groups I regularly support. Now I have to figure out the exchange rate for Australia. *grin* P.S. $100 USD = $129.42 AUD

    I'll settle for $1500AU
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:08 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You know nothing of math.

    There's the insult again. You just can't stop, can you.
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    A trillion is a million million. So all you have to do is find a two million people to give a million dollars each....
    I said a million or MORE. Many of those wealthy people have far more than a million. And the money would keep "the feds" (as you call them) from being burdened. I was heartened to read where many of those stimulus checks will be going.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:16 PM
    jlisenbe
    First you said this. "Trump and his pals could have easily put up the money out of their own pockets." I showed you that was flat wrong. Then you said, "His pals are all those who have a million dollars or more." I showed you that was flat wrong. Unless, of course, you really think he has two million "pals". Then you decide I was insulting you when I pointed out that your math knowledge is faulty. It's not an insult. I'm simply pointing out that your thinking is wrong because your math is flawed. And even worse, you still have not answered why we should extort money from honest people in order to give you money you don't need. And I also notice that you have not suggested that the government take any money from you, now a wealthy person by your own description, in order to pay for this looney bill.

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    There's the insult again. You just can't stop, can you.
    Instead of complaining, start thinking clearly. There are only a few hundred thousand people who make a million a year or more, and this is far, far short of the two million you need. This is not a joke. Think seriously about it.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:22 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    First you said this. "Trump and his pals could have easily put up the money out of their own pockets." I showed you that was flat wrong. Then you said, "His pals are all those who have a million dollars or more." I showed you that was flat wrong. Unless, of course, you really think he has two million "pals". Then you decide I was insulting you when I pointed out that your math knowledge is faulty. It's not an insult. I'm simply pointing out that your thinking is wrong because your math is flawed.

    Trump's pals -- used facetiously -- are all those who have a million or more in the bank, invested in stocks, in property, etc. I'm so very sorry I have to explain this to you. Now I see you really are, 100%, a literalist.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:26 PM
    jlisenbe
    So you seriously think that the government should force honest people to sell their homes, cash out their savings and investments, and give it to the feds so they can send you money to give to a dog shelter??? And what about wealthy you? Are you prepared to sell your house? Cash out your savings? Why not you? Why is it always someone else with you liberal dems? WHY NOT YOU????? Can't we give your money to people to give to dog shelters? Or is that level of sacrifice only for others?

    That's why I don't respect your views. You don't think. You just repeat the words you hear from others. It is always, always someone else who must carry the load. It is never, ever you.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:44 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So you seriously think that the government should force honest people to sell their homes, cash out their savings and investments, and give it to the feds so they can send you money to give to a dog shelter???

    This has nothing to do with me. It's so the wealthy can help those less fortunate in a way, en masse, they would have never considered before.

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    And what about wealthy you? Are you prepared to sell your house? Cash out your savings? Why not you? Why is it always someone else with you liberal dems? WHY NOT YOU????? Can't we give your money to people to give to dog shelters? Or is that level of sacrifice only for others?
    Wealthy me? Now you're dreaming. Of course, I'd do my fair share.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 07:50 PM
    jlisenbe
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    This has nothing to do with me. It's so the wealthy can help those less fortunate in a way, en masse, they would have never considered before.
    The wealthy already pay over 85% of income taxes, so your point is ridiculous. And to ask them to sell their homes and cash out their investments to give money to people like you to support dog shelters is lunacy. It is just so typical for a non-thinking, liberal dem.

    And just as I suspected, now that it suits you, you are back to your "modest income" motif. You said a week or two ago that you have a six figure income, so why wouldn't we ask you to sell your house?

    It's completely sickening. Talk with someone else. If you can't figure out that making people sell their homes so you can give money to a blasted dog shelter is completely stupid, then I can't help you.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 08:12 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The wealthy already pay over 85% of income taxes, so your point is ridiculous. And to ask them to sell their homes and cash out their investments to give money to people like you to support dog shelters is lunacy. It is just so typical for a non-thinking, liberal dem.

    And just as I suspected, now that it suits you, you are back to your "modest income" motif. You said a week or two ago that you have a six figure income, so why wouldn't we ask you to sell your house?

    It's completely sickening. Talk with someone else. If you can't figure out that making people sell their homes so you can give money to a blasted dog shelter is completely stupid, then I can't help you.

    As usual, you totally misread and misunderstood my comments.

    I never said I have a six-figure income! I'm RETIRED!

    And I never mentioned dog shelters.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 08:13 PM
    jlisenbe
    Sure I did.

    Animal shelters was your reference.

    You voted to raise taxes on yourself. Remember?? Check out your reply to this post.

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...02#post3864802
  • Mar 10, 2021, 08:27 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Sure I did.

    Animal shelters was your reference.

    You voted to raise taxes on yourself. Remember??

    Animal shelters include far more than dog shelters. I've never had a dog, nor do I ever want one. I'm a crazy cat lady, for years have rescued neighborhood strays/ferals and help my local cat shelter.

    Yup, and so it was regarding taxes.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 08:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Dog shelter or animal shelter, the point remains the same.

    Remember this? "The larger income, two inheritances,"

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...02#post3864802

    The search feature on this site is very good.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 08:44 PM
    jlisenbe
    Since this topic is actually about press conferences, heard today that Biden has now gone 48 days without one. That is the longest period for a new pres in over a hundred years. It sure seems to be some confirmation that he's just not up to it mentally.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 09:00 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Dog shelter or animal shelter, the point remains the same.

    Remember this? "The larger income, two inheritances,"

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/showth...02#post3864802

    The search feature on this site is very good.

    I don't deny that. It's not a regular income, but is fixed -- and being put to good use.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 09:04 PM
    Athos
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It sure seems to be some confirmation that he's just not up to it mentally.

    How about this for being "up to it mentally"?

    Biden's legislation is being passed that will bring millions out of poverty, allow more millions to afford health insurance, help local municipalities survive, and kick start the economy.
  • Mar 10, 2021, 09:55 PM
    paraclete
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    Biden's legislation is being passed that will bring millions out of poverty,
    On borrowed money, the question arises, if this can be done now because of a virus, why couldn't it have been done earlier, after all it is only OPM
  • Mar 11, 2021, 05:20 AM
    jlisenbe
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    On borrowed money,
    Precisely the point. If we can end poverty by spending 2 tril a year of borrowed money, then why not do that every year? And if we can't do that every year, then can you guess what will happen to those millions when the borrowed money stops flowing? It's a completely stupid idea. Even worse, it compounds the problem by convincing poor people that a government check is the way out of poverty.

    If liberal dems are really serious about giving poor people money to get them out of poverty, then they would take a sizeable portion of their personal incomes and give it to a poor person. They could buy a poor person health insurance. They could send a poor kid to college. Why do they always wait for the government to do these things? That they don't do it is certainly good reason to question their motives.
  • Mar 11, 2021, 06:24 AM
    jlisenbe
    Read this today and thought it was interesting.

    Representative Jim Jordan reminds Americans how stupid this administration is. He said, "We have open borders and closed schools. We can't build a wall at the border, but we can build a wall around the Capital. We can't protect the country, but we can protect the politicians."
  • Mar 11, 2021, 10:24 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Why do they always wait for the government to do these things? That they don't do it is certainly good reason to question their motives.
    Where does that government money come from?
  • Mar 11, 2021, 11:05 AM
    jlisenbe
    The 1.9 tril for this bill is borrowed/printed money. There is no tax money to support this. Tax monies have been in short supply since Bush 2 took over. It's why we are approaching 30 tril in federal debt, amounting to about 90K for every man, woman, and child in the country.
  • Mar 11, 2021, 02:23 PM
    paraclete
    so your theorem is that those receiving the money owe it
  • Mar 11, 2021, 02:46 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    so your theorem is that those receiving the money owe it
    Where did I say that?
  • Mar 11, 2021, 07:23 PM
    paraclete
    You said every man woman and child owes $90K
  • Mar 11, 2021, 08:30 PM
    jlisenbe
    Do they teach reading in Aussie land? I said our debt amounts to 90K for each one of us. I never said anything about people receiving the money would owe it back. You just completely missed it.

    "your theorem is that those receiving the money owe it"
  • Mar 11, 2021, 08:32 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Do they teach reading in Aussie land? I said our debt amounts to 90K for each one of us. I never said anything about people receiving the money would owe it back. You just completely missed it.

    "your theorem is that those receiving the money owe it"

    No I was just calling you on your rhetoric, you need a course in comprehension or maybe sarcasm
  • Mar 11, 2021, 09:03 PM
    Athos
    Stop with the argy bargy - I'm trying to sleep.
  • Mar 11, 2021, 10:55 PM
    paraclete
    Go back to sleep athos, nothing to see here

    You know JL, I get you, you were the school bully when you were in school
  • Mar 12, 2021, 05:19 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You know JL, I get you, you were the school bully when you were in school
    No, but I was able to think when I was in HS. Don't know why you're not prepared to do it here.
  • Mar 12, 2021, 05:35 PM
    paraclete
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    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No, but I was able to think when I was in HS. Don't know why you're not prepared to do it here.

    because this is a diversion, not an occupation

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