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  • Feb 12, 2021, 08:14 AM
    talaniman
    I certainly cannot blame repubs and the right for trying to cope with the electoral defeats of the last few election cycles. Losers usually blame everybody but themselves, but have heart, another election looms and maybe by then you will have figured out how to regroup like the dems did. Maybe the dufus if he ain't in jail can fix it for you AGAIN.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 11:11 AM
    Curlyben
    Is this really justified ?
    Just goes to show how far they were prepared to go.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56035299
  • Feb 12, 2021, 11:32 AM
    jlisenbe
    If your point is that Trump sometimes behaved irrationally, then I think we will all concede that. Just don't leave out the many positives of the last four years.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 01:57 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben View Post
    Is this really justified ?
    Just goes to show how far they were prepared to go.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56035299

    No surprise here! Blaming others for his failure is typical dufus.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    If your point is that Trump sometimes behaved irrationally, then I think we will all concede that. Just don't leave out the many positives of the last four years.

    Not the point at all.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 02:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    Thank goodness Cuomo is a liberal dem. If not, then he'd be in big trouble.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuo...navirus-deaths
  • Feb 12, 2021, 03:01 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Thank goodness Cuomo is a liberal dem. If not, then he'd be in big trouble.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cuo...navirus-deaths

    Any elected official can be called to task because of actions they take. No exceptions.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 04:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    Watch this, and then we can discuss incendiary language.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo96_nfW_Qw
  • Feb 12, 2021, 05:05 PM
    tomder55
    Cuomo even when caught is trying to deflect and blame Trump ...amazing .

    Quote:

    Is this really justified ?
    Just goes to show how far they were prepared to go.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-56035299
    not at all . Pence was extremely loyal to Trump. Trump assumed Pence could do something in his ceremonial role of Congress certifying the results that Pence knew he could not constitutionally do .
  • Feb 12, 2021, 05:40 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Trump assumed Pence could do something in his ceremonial role of Congress certifying the results that Pence knew he could not constitutionally do .

    Trump is stupid, but he's not totally ignorant. Of course, he knew Pence couldn't change or stop the count, but Trump decided to go ahead anyway because his colossol stupidity convinced him he could stay president if only the votes were not counted on January 6. Trump's narcissism will always trump his scant knowledge.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 05:49 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Cuomo even when caught is trying to deflect and blame Trump ...amazing .


    The total number of deaths of elderly New Yorkers were not "covered up." Get the facts straight: elderly residents of nursing homes who contracted COVID, were then transferred from a nursing home to a hospital, and then died of COVID while in the hospital, were listed as having died in a hospital instead of in a nursing home.

    That information, which some see as a potential mischaracterization of where an elderly person died--not whether they died--was then withheld for a time from the New York State Legislature. It was withheld because the DOJ also wanted information at the same time, and the DOJ was given preference delaying the info to the state.

    If I am wrong, I welcome correction, but it all seems like a tempest in a teapot.
  • Feb 12, 2021, 06:52 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    , but it all seems like a tempest in a teapot.

    A very apt description of the whole affair
  • Feb 12, 2021, 07:25 PM
    tomder55
    fact .....the total numbers that died in nursing homes were intentionally under reported by as much as 50 % .There has been a rash of resignations from NYS Health Dept over the cover up . Now that secretary to the governor Melissa DeRosa admitted to it in a conference call to Dem lawmakers ,I'm sure more will come forward . She said that Trump was turning the scandal into a 'political foorball ' ;and that as a result they 'froze' . Instead of apologizing to the families ,she instead tried to make amends to the lawmakers for the inconvenience they endured from the scandal . I do understand the position that you were put in. I know that it is not fair. It was not our intention to put you in that political position with the Republicans.”

    The Slimes noted ;The disclosures have left Mr. Cuomo, a third-term Democrat, scrambling to contain the political fallout, as lawmakers of both parties call for censure, including stripping the governor of his emergency powers during the pandemic, federal and state investigations and resignations of Ms. DeRosa and other top officials.

    If not for some hard gumshoe investigations by the Albany Times-Union, the Empire Center think tank's FOIA requests , and Janice Dean of Fox the truth may never had come out .
    Cuomo Administration Releases FOIL-Requested Nursing Home Data - Empire Center for Public Policy

    "Between last week’s court order and tonight’s formal response, the department posted new death totals for each facility, including hospital deaths that had previously been omitted. Those revelations increased the known death toll from about 9,000 to almost 15,000—making clear that the pandemic’s toll on long-term care residents was much worse than the Cuomo administration previously portrayed it to be. This six-month fight should not have been necessary, The department should have been disclosing these numbers all along, and certainly should have provided them upon request—not just from Empire Center, but from legislators, reporters and members of the public. "
  • Feb 13, 2021, 04:01 AM
    tomder55
    today's cancellation is actress Gina Carano who was playing a role in Disney's Mandalorian . Disney canned her for the heinous act of pointing out the obvious truth that the German Nazis were able to kill the Jews because they had taught the public to hate them and thus agree with that round-up. The Twitter goons went on a frenzy . Disney ,bowing to the mob ,fired her .

    'The Mandalorian' star Gina Carano fired from Lucasfilm after fallout over social media post | The Post Millennial


    as a footnote . Disney also cancelled Peter Pan , Dumbo ,Swiss Family Robinson, and The Aristocats to children 7 or younger .

    Why ?
    Quote:

    Disney implemented a revised content advisory in October to flag up any issues surrounding racial stereotypes and concerns were raised in relation to Peter Pan and the other productions. The decision to ban the films from children’s accounts was made by a group of external experts who were brought in to assess if the content ‘represented global audiences’.
    While the films remain available on adult accounts, they come with a disclaimer that says: ‘This programme includes negative depictions and/or mistreatment of people or cultures. These stereotypes were wrong then and are wrong now. ‘Rather than remove this content, we want to acknowledge its harmful impact, learn from it and spark conversation to create a more inclusive future together.’
    Disney+ blocks under-sevens from watching 'racist' Peter Pan, Dumbo and The Aristocats | Daily Mail Online



  • Feb 13, 2021, 06:04 AM
    Curlyben
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55955588

    I'm sure some will disagree, there are, however, some really big takeaways in it.
  • Feb 13, 2021, 06:26 AM
    jlisenbe
    Coming from the BBC, I thought it was a surprisingly fair analysis.
  • Feb 13, 2021, 07:25 AM
    talaniman
    No doubt the BBC is watching this whole thing LIVE rather than through partisan media lenses. I know...I got no life outside of Netflix.

    My fringer friends have as much success making a case and answering questions as the dufus lawyers.
  • Feb 13, 2021, 11:52 AM
    jlisenbe
    The latest riot in NYC was by BLM. Thank goodness for that. It relieves the local authorities from the burden of having to arrest anyone. But even if they do, our VP can be counted on to bail them out. It also gives the liberal dems a reason to NOT oppose the rioters.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/violent-b...o-nypd-injured
  • Feb 13, 2021, 01:52 PM
    talaniman
    Dems fall 10 short of convicting the dufus. 57-43
  • Feb 13, 2021, 02:03 PM
    Curlyben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Dems fall 10 short of convicting the dufus. 57-43

    Gotta love partisanship...
  • Feb 13, 2021, 02:39 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Curlyben View Post
    Gotta love partisanship...

    No surprise at all, nor was Minority Leader McConnell's scathing rebuke of the dufus while voting not guilty.

    Slick Mitch has the next election cycle in his sights.
  • Feb 13, 2021, 03:05 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The United States led the entire world in reducing CO2 emissions last year while also experiencing solid economic growth, according to a newly released report.
    “The United States saw the largest decline in energy-related CO2 emissions in 2019 on a country basis – a fall of 140 Mt, or 2.9%, to 4.8 Gt,” The International Energy Agency (IEA) reported on Tuesday. “US emissions are now down almost 1 Gt from their peak in the year 2000, the largest absolute decline by any country over that period.”
    This is speaking of 2019. Rather amazingly, this all happened even as electrical consumption actually INCREASED. Well, always good to be reminded.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/unite...ONOyixlkl--N6E
  • Feb 13, 2021, 04:43 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Dems fall 10 short of convicting the dufus. 57-43
    in other words not guilty .

    Quote:

    Gotta love partisanship...
    according to the compliant press ;this is the most votes against the charged by his own party in American history . True as far as a statement of 'fact' . However it is deceptive . Andrew Johnson came within one vote of conviction . There have been 3 other impeachments ;Bubba and 2 for Trump . So what exactly is their point except more gothca ?

    Quote:

    No surprise at all, nor was Minority Leader McConnell's scathing rebuke of the dufus while voting not guilty.

    Slick Mitch has the next election cycle in his sights.
    The turtle was on point and correct in that the Senate is no place to play judge and jury . An impeachment is a political process . If Trump is guilty of crimes ,it is for the justice dept and judiciary to deal with it .
  • Feb 13, 2021, 05:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    If Trump is guilty of crimes ,it is for the justice dept and judiciary to deal with it .
    I don't think they'll do that. They know that if they have to follow the rules of justice, they won't stand a chance. This sham of a Senate trial broke all sorts of rules, and still they plainly had no case.
  • Feb 13, 2021, 05:50 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    in other words not guilty .

    according to the compliant press ;this is the most votes against the charged by his own party in American history . True as far as a statement of 'fact' . However it is deceptive . Andrew Johnson came within one vote of conviction . There have been 3 other impeachments ;Bubba and 2 for Trump . So what exactly is their point except more gothca ?


    The turtle was on point and correct in that the Senate is no place to play judge and jury . An impeachment is a political process . If Trump is guilty of crimes ,it is for the justice dept and judiciary to deal with it .

    The only thing you got right was that impeachment is a political process, and that political process will continue to play out for sure. Spin and all. Remember the dufus has only just begun, his words not mine.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 05:07 AM
    Athos
    McConnel's comment was priceless - he voted to acquit, then promptly bashed Trump for every charge brought against him - in the most vicious terms.

    He explained his acquittal because Trump was no longer president so could not be tried as a private citizen. That's even more priceless, since he was the one who requested the trial be delayed until Trump was no longer president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don'cha love it???
  • Feb 14, 2021, 06:09 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    McConnel's comment was priceless - he voted to acquit, then promptly bashed Trump for every charge brought against him - in the most vicious terms.

    He explained his acquittal because Trump was no longer president so could not be tried as a private citizen. That's even more priceless, since he was the one who requested the trial be delayed until Trump was no longer president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don'cha love it???

    Another perfect example of repub fixing the outcome. Just like the last impeachment of this dufus. Evidence and FACTS the fringers always demand just doesn't matter.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 06:11 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    since he was the one who requested the trial be delayed until Trump was no longer president!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Don'cha love it???
    Yeah. I'm sure the liberal dems all sat around and said, "Our dear friend McConnel has requested we hold off until Trump is gone, so in a spirit of love and unity, let's do that!" Please don't ask us to believe something that ridiculous.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 06:27 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. I'm sure the liberal dems all sat around and said, "Our dear friend McConnel has requested we hold off until Trump is gone, so in a spirit of love and unity, let's do that!" Please don't ask us to believe something that ridiculous.

    As dems have said repeatedly it doesn't matter when the trial goes forth, he was impeached while he was president for stuff he did as a president. Repubs are the only ones using McConnell's delay as an excuse to not convict the dufus. Nice spin but BOGUS!
  • Feb 14, 2021, 03:23 PM
    tomder55
    Trump made history.He is now the most acquitted president in American history.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 03:25 PM
    Curlyben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Trump made history.

    Not in a particularly good way though...
    I'm sure there's more to come, we haven't heard the last of this..
  • Feb 14, 2021, 03:35 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    we haven't heard the last of this..
    I'm afraid that's true. When the repubs regain control, I hope they will have the courage to reject these sickening political circuses.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 03:58 PM
    Curlyben
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm afraid that's true. When the repubs regain control, I hope they will have the courage to reject these sickening political circuses.

    This isn't party political, you need to look beyond the pettiness to the far bigger picture.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 04:11 PM
    jlisenbe
    Both of the trials for Trump were purely political. The second was beyond incredible. Impeaching a pres who was no longer in office is just crazy.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 04:22 PM
    Wondergirl
    If a president can't be impeached when IN office, and he/she can't be impeached when OUT of office, when can he/she be impeached???
  • Feb 14, 2021, 04:27 PM
    jlisenbe
    Not following you. A sitting Pres can be impeached. Having a solid case really helps.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 05:12 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Trump made history.He is now the most acquitted president in American history.

    And the most impeached in American history.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 05:14 PM
    Wondergirl
    Mitch McConnell, the same person who refused to convene the Senate to begin an impeachment trial while Trump was still in office, later claimed it was unconstitutional to impeach a president after he's left office.
  • Feb 14, 2021, 06:48 PM
    jlisenbe
    Please don't ask me to explain McConnell.
  • Feb 15, 2021, 03:37 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Please don't ask me to explain McConnell.

    I'd be happy if you could just explain yourself.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Mitch McConnell, the same person who refused to convene the Senate to begin an impeachment trial while Trump was still in office, later claimed it was unconstitutional to impeach a president after he's left office.

    Slick Mitch ain't fooling anybody. He knew where his party was and didn't dare vote against the dufus. Too many cowards and sycophants need those loony voters, and a civil war within the party hurts him and a bunch of repubs. He made a scathing speech against the dufus, but voted to acquit using a BS excuse he set up to cover his arse and his party, so he just had his cake and tried to eat it too.

    For now it's still the dufus mob, and will remain so for some time, and Slick still wants to remain the repub senate leader. That simple.
  • Feb 15, 2021, 06:57 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    And the most impeached in American history.
    and Bubba was impeached . Does the left think any less of him for it ? j is right . Impeachment is a political process. The Dems with Trump have tried to make it into an elaborate 'vote of no confidence.' .

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