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Aside: Thank you for your healing thoughts and prayers. What I have is aplastic anemia (red cell aplasia), the rarest form of anemia. My red blood cells are fewer in number and don't do what they're supposed to do. It can be cured only with stem cells implanted in my bone marrow. (I'm too old to qualify.) Otherwise, occasional transfusions are given until they don't work any longer.
Wow. Sounds like a tough deal. Sometimes it seems like the price of getting older. You get to stay alive, but have to deal with illness or just plain ole age-related slowing down. Yet we know that God still does miracles and still heals, so that's my prayer for you, and that He will draw you ever nearer to Him.
Addendum: I'm 66 so I'm not too far behind you.
"The rabbit-hole went straight on like a tunnel for some way, and then dipped suddenly down, so suddenly that Alice had not a moment to think about stopping herself before she found herself falling down a very deep well."
Sort of like electing the dufus, known for cheating, and can't believe he is cheating again, even after he gets caught.
Yeah, like we should have elected that paragon of virtue and truth-telling, Hillary "Wipe the Hard Drive Clean" Clinton?Quote:
Sort of like electing the dufus, known for cheating,
Lets see now, HC's charity wasn't disbanded and the Clintons weren't barred from charity work, or running college scams and forced to give the money back, or kicked off the federal program for renting to poor people for scamming the government, or barred from borrowing money from most American banks, or even bankrupting a casino, I mean these are all court DOCUMENTED financial FACTS, the dufus actually did this stuff. So yeah you should have voted for HC over the dufus as a simple no brainer, and she could have taken credit for the best economy we ever had, while you tried to impeach HER!
It's not like you haven't been smearing the woman for decades with NO evidence, or maybe not enough to CHARGE her of anything, let alone convict. You haven't even got her to court to at least cut a deal like the dufus has done many times before and after he was elected. Voting for HC would at least saved you the trouble of rigging the senate to keep the dufus, as Moscow Mitch has announced he was going to do after we lay those articles of impeachment on his lap.
You righties have always known the fix was in, and counted on it as your only hope, when the dufus was caught lying, cheating, and stealing yet again, so save the fool so he can keep lying cheating and stealing. You need more EVIDENCE that's what he has done, did do, or will do again?
That's exactly what your dems in the House are doing with Trump, so why are you whining about it?Quote:
It's not like you haven't been smearing the woman for decades with NO evidence, or maybe not enough to CHARGE her of anything.
As to Clinton, there is no doubt at all that she wiped her hard drive clean and thus destroyed evidence. There is also no doubt that she had classified information on her unsecure, toy email server.
Anyone ever figure out why the Sec of State would have needed her own personal email server to carry out, among other things, official gov business? Or why she needed to take a hammer and destroy her dozen or so government cell phones? Do we have any answers on that? Do you care, or is it OK with you since she is, after all, a liberal dem?
The Constitution lays out very specific terms for impeachment ;Bribery, Treason, High Crimes, or Misdemeanors. Any article of impeachment that is outside those four crimes is completely unconstitutional.There are no specific crime in the 2 articles of impeachment the toad Nadler crafted .End of discussion . The Dems would like to turn the impeachment process into the Parlimentary vote of no confidence . Sorry you won't get away with it . The Senate will overwhelmingly acquit .“If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.” Federalist #33
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I will let pass what we are doing to the dufus since no conservative or repub will recognize the presented cause of our concerns either by denial or design (Or BOTH), but after decades of experience with both the right wing and foreign powers like Russia China and Iran she obviously thought it prudent to be responsible for her own privacy and professional electronics, and given the cyber capabilities of stated governments in hackig business and governments it turned out to be wise, and more importantly correct since she not just survived the very public variety of investigations, both personal and professional, and was cleared of wrong doing, unlike the dufus who has been cleared of NOTHING ever.
Wait a minute, a conservative administration cleared a liberal dem of wrong doing and you're asking me to explain? Explain how conservative investigations going back decades on many allegations have turned up NOTHING on HC after many hats she has worn in service to the country. Heck she sat for 11 hours for a repub hearing so when the dufus has matchhhed that achievement then call me will ya!
Under the constitution, abuse of power would easily be found applicable as a high crime, or misdemeanor, and there is nothing as tyrannical as not answering a lawful congressional subpoena, or obstructing the congresses article II oversight responsibility. If what you posted were remotely true Tomder, Moscow Mitch would have said so. They just won't convict because the fix is in, and the outcome has already been rigged and ANNOUNCED. That borders on unlawful in and of itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
The process of setting up the guidelines and structure of the senate trial should be interesting too, as contrary to popular belief Moscow man doesn't have unfettered authority and senate dems may hold more power than believed, as much as the WH for sure.
You are completely wrong. He has no responsibility under law to be cleared of anything. The burden of proof is on the dems who are accusing him. They have completely failed.Quote:
the dufus who has been cleared of NOTHING ever.
I'm not accusing her of a crime. I'm just wondering if you have ever thought about those strange circumstances. Why did she need a personal email server? Why did she wipe the hard drive clean? Why did she need to physically destroy about a dozen or so cell phones? Does any of that strike you as STRANGE?Quote:
Wait a minute, a conservative administration cleared a liberal dem of wrong doing and you're asking me to explain? Explain how conservative investigations going back decades on many allegations have turned up NOTHING on HC after many hats she has worn in service to the country. Heck she sat for 11 hours for a repub hearing so when the dufus has matchhhed that achievement then call me will ya!
Not nearly as strange as asking Russia if you're listening and suddenly the DNC has been hacked, and even repubs thought it was disgusting at the time, but not the dufus! Nor as strange as Barr spinning the Mueler Report before its release prompting Mueller to write him of his misrepresentation. I also find it very strange that after that whole debacle and the day after Mueller's dry a$$ testimony (Yet FACTUALLY accurate, though criticized for PERFORMANCE) the dufus is asking the Ukraine government for a favor that repubs don't think is strange and wants his political foe's son investigated without one shred of evidence (you know that EVIDENCE thing you insist on?), and outside of official government channels agreed to and ratified by treaty, along with an seeming admission of Ukraine interference in the 2016 election, again with NO evidence of such events. Now that's some strange stuff.
I wonder how anyone would NOT take extra precaution after 30 years of being a target for EVERYTHING they do and yes a bit strange but not that far from understandable one would CTOA from such allegations and assaults which were rather effective consider everybody that has been hacked over the years.
Stranger still though was the dufus using those stolen emails to grind the DNC every chance he got, along with the public statements especially in Helsinki standing besides Vlad, yeah some really, really strange,, hard to ignore stuff that just keeps happening. So when I add it up then the dufus has done far more stranger stuff than HC, and where you can be suspicious of any politician, the dufus KEEPS me suspicious and wary all the time. I could list so much more if I cared to remember it all, but my point is clear, the dufus has always done some questionable stuff and continues with questionable stuff. I'll wrap this up with the campaign workers Mueller has sent to jail, and can't help but wonder if he hadn't quit early, right after Barr was named and confirmed AG, who else he would have gone after,
That's just the stuff we know of and more keeps being revealed. Plus I hate his policies but that's besides the point and totally irrelevant to the strange stuff he does did, and I feel will do some more. Call me liberal, but even a conservative has to see some of this stuff rather strange if not downright suspicious.
No I meant his court settlements as outlined above. He likely won't be convicted in the senate give Moscow Mitch said the fix was in to keep the dufus in office no matter what the dems present.Quote:
You are completely wrong. He has no responsibility under law to be cleared of anything. The burden of proof is on the dems who are accusing him. They have completely failed.
Hey, ya'll, been watching the Stock Market lately? How about the Unemployment #'s? How about how Red China is caving to the tariffs? No, you haven't been watching? Wow! Living under a rock or watching the Impeachment fiasco?
With things going as good as they are in this nation, why in the name of God would anyone want to remove this POTUS?
It is plainly obvious that removing the POTUS is a wrong move for the country: For the 1st time in the longest time, we are GETTING BETTER AND BETTER, STRONGER AND STRONGER! Why does that bother some of you?
It is an illusion
Tal, what a wonderful list of accusations against Trump. Now if you can just demonstrate guilt.
V7 said: "How about how Red China is caving to the tariffs?"
Um, China is raising the prices of their goods and raising their own tariffs to be greater than ours. No caving is going on.
Ok progress now if we could just rid of those stupid tariffs and get back to businessQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
W.G.: Red China LIFTED tariffs on U.S. soybeans and pork! Even communist slime has to eat......UPSHOT of this: TRUMP IS WINNING, AGAIN!
How come you don't want to talk about the how the ECONOMY is doing? Remember, one of the left's patron Saint's, James Carville, said during the Lewinsky scandal: "Nobody cares about Impeachment! It's the ECONOMY stupid!"
It isn't hard to win when you caused the problem in the first place, all that is happening is that things are going back to the status quoQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Forget it, Vac. I appreciate you trying, but some people are addicted to complaining.
Very perceptive of you Clete, create a crisis with bluster, talk tough, solve it for a zero sum game and take credit for it. The noise from the peanut gallery bears that out.
Yes Tal it seems to be the way politics is played in your land, but consider, term limits, no Pelosi, etc and maybe no crisisQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
There has been a lot of talk about term limits. Are they used anywhere else? If so, what has that experience been like? They do hold a certain appeal.Quote:
consider, term limits
Less bluster more debate, and better cooperation would help. Also eliminate all this campaigning and the money to do it, could improve things I think.
I'm with you there and I think it could apply to many placesQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Haven't courts already ruled that unconstitutional?Quote:
Also eliminate all this campaigning and the money to do it, could improve things I think.
I begin to wonder whether any action in your country is constitutional. who is in charge? The ghosts of the founders or the elected officialsQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Who is in charge? It's this little thing called "the law". God help us if that ever ceases to be the case.Quote:
who is in charge?
I don't think he will help you. I doubt rebellion was his ideaQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Thankfully, God is not controlled by what you think.Quote:
I don't think he will help you. I doubt rebellion was his idea
Thankfully he is not controlled by any human agencyQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Despite the alleged utter stupidity of humans, some are very good at adapting ways to get around the law, and even stretch it to the limits. Then there is the Citizens United SCOTUS ruling which guaranteed rich guys could spend whatever they wanted on whomever they wanted. So the notion of what's legal and illegal is still up in the air because there are always loopholes abound, and smart humans to exploit them to the max.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That won't stop humans from invoking his name to further their agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
No, it didn't. There are limits on what an individual or business can give to a political campaign. The Citizens United case had more to do with political advocacy groups and was a freedom of speech issue.Quote:
Then there is the Citizens United SCOTUS ruling which guaranteed rich guys could spend whatever they wanted on whomever they wanted.
Your hero, President Obama, had the usual "speaking out of both sides of his mouth" response to this decision.
President Obama leveled perhaps the most vocal criticism of the Citizens United decision by directly taking on the Supreme Court, saying the five majority justices “handed a huge victory to the special interests and their lobbyists.”
Obama lashed out at the ruling in his 2010 State of the Union address
"With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court reversed a century of law that I believe will open the floodgates for special interests, including foreign corporations, to spend without limit in our elections," Obama said during his address to a joint session of Congress.
"I don't think American elections should be bankrolled by America's most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people," the president said. "And I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems."
In the 2012 presidential contest, however, Obama softened his stance on super PACs and encouraged his fundraisers to bring in contributions to a super PAC that was supporting his candidacy.
If you can't beat 'em join 'em! Be foolish to go into a political campaign with handcuffs on now wouldn't it.
Looks like MO"MONEY to me!
The answer to all of that would be to have a truly fact loving, adversarial, unbiased national news media, which is exactly what we don't have.
We have one but many don't know how to use it or recognize FACTS. I can specify that right wing loonies will dismiss the FACTS much preferring validation over truth. That's pretty hard core and extreme in many regards and ignores over half the country. FACT is the right wing is not the majority of people in this country. To be fair, neither repubs or dems are either.
We do? Which one??? CNN, the network that provided HC with debate questions prior to the event to give her an advantage over rivals???Quote:
We have one but many don't know how to use it or recognize FACTS.
Take media as a whole and do your own homework for a change and let me know what you get. Nitpicking talking points is not something that helps you because you even screw that up.
Oh those stubborn facts!
FACTS aren't stubborn, people are.
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