I'm into permanent security measures ,
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I'm into permanent security measures ,
Then we'd better build a wall protecting us from fentanyl shipments flooding the US from Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
There can be no such thing as permanent security measure since the bad guys watch closely, learn, and adjust to whatever the good guys do. Security must also be ready willing and able to adjust, or what's the point?
what's the point ? Here is a photo of Pelosi's home .Note the big beautiful wall that serves as part of permanent security for her and her family .
https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2018/...resize=865,452
Here is the emperor's Washington DC home . Note the wall he expanded once he moved in to enhance his security .https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017...3726247259.jpg
Here is Evita's home . Evita ;tear down that wall !!! https://freemartyg.com/images/Clinto...gle_maps_2.jpg
here is the new wall that Sandanista Bill De Blasio had built around Gracie Mansion https://static01.nyt.com/images/2014...isable=upscale
Hey I get it and endorse it, I have my own modest version of a big beautiful wall to keep out unwanted visitors but the reality is the left doesn't want to keep visitors out and they don't want to keep potential residents out but it is obvious on a personal level that they think walls preferable to guns, maybe?
Behind those walls are men with guns, as will be the great wall the dufus wants. Unfortunately the dufus conflates unarmed men and even more women and children as invaders and criminals which is a lie or more charitably a great exaggeration. I think a human process of humans without that soaring exaggeration would yield better results and separate the desperate from the criminal very easily since asylum seekers are LEGAL under our law.
Plus I think it's pretty stupid to even listen to the conniving schemes of a proven liar, cheater, and bully who has ripped off citizens for decades. Only the loony right could find such a character to follow.
I agree completely. I don't listen to Hillary either.Quote:
Plus I think it's pretty stupid to even listen to the conniving schemes of a proven liar, cheater, and bully who has ripped off citizens for decades.
then you are completely unfamiliar with the law if you believe someone bum rushing the border is obeying asylum laws .Quote:
since asylum seekers are LEGAL under our law.
Let's face it Tom, law is only a convenience to the left. They can use it to coerce
That's fair enough on it's face, but you do listen to the dufus so that's not exactly a step up. Since elected he has told enough LIES that you cannot use the Hillary excuse any longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
There you go with your soaring rhetoric, not unlike the dufus LIES! The law is the law.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I do agree with you up to a point. When Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, that was ridiculous. He promised to release his income tax returns and has not done so. So yes, he has lied. I would just point out that he has not lied to anywhere near the level Obama and Clinton did who lied about dead Americans, and yet liberals turn red in the face about Trump but were strangely silent about Obama and H.C. One thing I nearly always take issue with is inconsistency, and that's what I see at work in your comments.Quote:
That's fair enough on it's face, but you do listen to the dufus so that's not exactly a step up. Since elected he has told enough LIES that you cannot use the Hillary excuse any longer.
don't forget this emperor lie . 'I will close GITMO ' .
Tal asylum seekers need to prove they are either the victim of past persecution or fearfuture persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.The persecution must have been based on at least one of five grounds, either :
- race
- religion
- nationality
- political opinion, or
- membership in a particular social group .
THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR ECONOMIC REASONS . The vast majority seeking asylum at the border are there for economic reasons.
I have a good question ? Why aren't the Dems begging us to take in Venezuelan refugees (who are legitimately suffering political persecution ). Maybe because the Venezuelans know the truth about living in a command economy centralized socialist state .
Repubs said no!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Only going through a humane process can determine that... RIGHT?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Let me know when the dufus spots a caravan of Venezuelans.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Tal is right. They're pouring into Colombia, not the US. Should we send buses?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
What are you all going on about? Why do you feel the need to prove he (Trump) is a liar and a thief.
SO what! We have an unscrupulous president.
If you think he will ever spend time incarcerated you are as foolish as he.
He will not be Impeached.
The wall is nothing, none of this has to do with building a wall or the money to build it.
Preventing the president from doing his Job is what it's all about.
From day one many of our politician's declared they were not going to do their job thereby preventing our standing President from doing his.
Yes, maybe we should have voted-in the better Politician (liar and thief).
Trump was never a politician, he can't be expected to lie (with the best of them) like a true politician.
Let the Man do his job, he might surprise you.
We said that when Obama was elected so we all should know it doesn't work that way. Stop being a baby hollering foul, and protect your dufus.
why didn't he do it by fiat like he did with DACA ?Quote:
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don't forget this emperor lie . 'I will close GITMO ' .
Repubs said no
There is a humane process . It is called applying for asylum in your own country with the US embassy .Quote:
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Tal asylum seekers need to prove they are either the victim of past persecution or fearfuture persecution. In the case of past persecution, you must prove that you were persecuted in your home country or last country of residence.The persecution must have been based on at least one of five grounds, either :
- race
- religion
- nationality
- political opinion, or
- membership in a particular social group .
THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR ECONOMIC REASONS . The vast majority seeking asylum at the border are there for economic reasons.
Only going through a humane process can determine that... RIGHT?
I don't see the Dems making any effort to get them asylum status . The same thing happened with Cubans . For years they had a provision to allow them in if they made it to shore . It was called 'wet foot dry foot '. Well the emperor did not want anyone really repressed from a communist state here telling Americans what life is like under socialist oppression so he ended that policy . You see the Cubans had a legitimate claim to asylum ;not the economic one that the Honduran border raiders have .Quote:
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I have a good question ? Why aren't the Dems begging us to take in Venezuelan refugees (who are legitimately suffering political persecution ). Maybe because the Venezuelans know the truth about living in a command economy centralized socialist state .
Let me know when the dufus spots a caravan of Venezuelans.
The fight over Gitmo was a tough battle but but Obama reduced the number of prisioners from 245 to 41, and the dufus so far has removed 1 himself, and the courts held that Obama had the authority to prioritize who he hunted down and deported. Criminals were his priority, and KIDS were not. All done lawfully, humanely and he may not have fully succeeded in his aims, he worked at it, took his lumps and pressed forward, as contrast to this heavy handed style of the dufus who thinks he is an emperor.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That's just not what the LAW says Tom, https://www.uscis.gov/humanitarian/r...-united-statesQuote:
There is a humane process . It is called applying for asylum in your own country with the US embassy .
I am aware of history, and aware of how the US helped ravage those Central Americans way back in the day. Not that it took that much to tilt the balance of power, nor is it any surprise that the same thing is happening in other countries in the CA. You better watch XI, and Vlad down there.Quote:
I don't see the Dems making any effort to get them asylum status . The same thing happened with Cubans . For years they had a provision to allow them in if they made it to shore . It was called 'wet foot dry foot '. Well the emperor did not want anyone really repressed from a communist state here telling Americans what life is like under socialist oppression so he ended that policy . You see the Cubans had a legitimate claim to asylum ;not the economic one that the Honduran border raiders have .
You want to stop the migration patterns? Deal with the root causes of them. Political wars. Good LUCK with that... bring a big lunch and cancel the golf game tomorrow.
The left never changes ... always blame America first
Big difference between blaming and acknowledging accountability. Hey all the empires of man have the same blood of the vanquished foe on their hands. Some more than others maybe, but same behavior, with very similar outcomes... devastation and death that can last a very long time.
"You break it, you own it", as Colin Powell once said. Is the right in such denial?
So what is it you want them to own? Afghanistan, it was broken before you came, Iraq, a basket case which you made worse? Libya, yes Obama should own that one and go and fix it with his peace prize in his pocket. Maybe the world is better off now with a little less islamic militancy after the guts have been kicked out of the Muslim Brotherhood, out of Al Qaeda, out of ISIS, but I wonder how much of it was a crisis of your own making, and you are doing it again in VenezeulaQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I generally think we would do better if we would mind our own business more frequently. Still, after 9/11 we had to do something. Did we do the right something? In large measure yes, but I do understand that people can have other opinions about it.
We are still our own worst enemy. 22 tril in debt (half of it under the Obama admin), the insane idea that wind and solar can supply our energy needs, the thinking that increased government spending will grow the economy, and a growing belief that taxing the rich can solve all our problems will do us in faster than any foreign enemy.
Yes you had to do something but you lashed out on al qaeda and go rid of their bases but you didn't identify your true enemy and became a lackey of Saudi and Israeli aggression and pursuing regime change in the ME has you embroilled in ongoing tribal warsQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
If anybody is going to take advantage of Venezuela it will be the United States, Not China.
The US Placed Saddam in power, who else can pull him from power.
I agree, the US lost sight of the Ball. We are Screww-uuu-uuwwdd (and so are you ;-P)!
ENJOY.
We don't need to worry about foreign powers. Our own lack of discipline (22 tril in debt) is our greatest enemy.
Yes indeed that is what the US excels at taking advantage and creating situations of disadvantageQuote:
Originally Posted by waltero
What a statement. Saved the world in World Wars 1 and 2. Rebuilt the world with the Marshall plan. Single-handedly props up the United Nations. Gives more to foreign aid than probably the next 10 nations combined. Yeah, we sure take advantage of people.Quote:
Yes indeed that is what the US excels at taking advantage and creating situations of disadvantage
You won world war 1, what a stretch, you won world war 2, with out Russia kicking Hitlers but it would have taken longer and maybe you could have unleashed mass murder in Europe since your saturation bombing couldn't get the job done. Don't think propping up the UN is doing us any favours. Tied foreign aid isn't aid it is keeping jobs in the US disquised as aid, if any of it actually gets out of the US. Remember aid to Haiti? You need to get a new song because that one is getting very tiredQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
When I read your comments, I am reminded of the old saying which goes, "No good deed goes unpunished." I'm not saying we have sprouted angel wings, but anytime a natural disaster occurs anywhere in the world, both public and private funds are sent pouring out of the U.S. Most of our foreign aid is tied to nothing. And yeah, if the U.S. had not entered WW 1, the Germans would have won.
I'm Not sure about the First World War.
As Far as the Second World War; Only until America Entered WWII was it decided.
Fair enough statement.Quote:
I'm Not sure about the First World War.
As Far as the Second World War; Only until America Entered WWII was it decided
No the germans would not have won Russia denied them vital oil supplies, it would just have taken longer and Europe would have been conquered by Russia I grant your achievement in the Pacific which might have been quicker if you were not preoccupied with HitlerQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I'm as America first as you can get . The war in Europe was won by Russia with our assistance . The Battle of Stalingrad was the deciding factor in the war ;not the Normandy Invasion on D Day. The real deciding factor was the Russian T 34 tank . The Soviets suffered 20x the number of casualties as the US ;and we "let them take Berlin. " which cost them 30,000 casualties . Actually the deciding battle was Russia v Japan atKhalkhyn Gol where the greatest General in the war ,GeneralGeorgi Zhukov defeated the Japanese (which caused the Japanese to look South for an empire eventually taking on the US) . He also led the defense of Moscow and Leningrad
If not for the United States, Germany would have won the Battle of the Atlantic and taken the Brits out of the war. That would have allowed the Germans to point everything at the Soviets.
80 % of the German forces were deployed in Russia . Bigger than the Battle of the Atlantic was the Lend Lease program that helped the Russians survive the early onslaught. General Zukov could very well be the most under rated General in history . He totally annihilated the Japanese atKhalkhyn Gol and then came West to defeat the Germans The Russian counter offensive began in the winter of 1941 ;a year before we entered the war . Zukov executed a double envelopment of the Germans . By D day the Germans had been pushed out of Russia and were being pushed out of Eastern Europe.
Never mind, it is always johnny~come~lately who claims victory. The US was lucky not to be annihilated at Normandy, Had Hitler committed the panzer reserves the situation may have been very different and if the Germans had not have made the mistake of invading Russia it is doubtful a successful invasion could have been mounted
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Originally Posted by tomder55
Hitler was the best general the Allies had.
Very true.Quote:
Hitler was the best general the Allies had.
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