Yes, but it may never happen, their ego's will get in the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Speaking of things that may never happen, you might be on the wrong side come fall
New Poll Shows GOP Now Leads In 2018 Generic Ballot
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Yes, but it may never happen, their ego's will get in the wayQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Speaking of things that may never happen, you might be on the wrong side come fall
New Poll Shows GOP Now Leads In 2018 Generic Ballot
This being so he has been appointed without the normal appointments processQuote:
The appointment of Robert Mueller violates the Appointments Clause of the Constitution. Mueller is not an inferior appointee, but a principal appointee as understood under the constitution. His powers are more akin to an United States attorney, not an assistant United States attorney.
I've been on the wrong side of electoral results before and probably will again, no biggie!Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Obviously a history lesson is needed to debunk the FAKE NEWS you dug up.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_prosecutor
Initiating a special prosecutor investigation[edit]The decision to appoint a special prosecutor rests with the attorney general (or acting attorney general), or, historically, with the president. Under the independent counsel statute that expired in 1999, Congress could formally request the attorney general to appoint a special prosecutor (see role of legislative and judicial branches); however the law only required the attorney general to respond in writing with a decision and reasons, and in any event it is no longer in force.[18] Similarly, under the statute, the choice of who to appoint as special prosecutor was made by a three-judge panel of the Court of Appeals. This is no longer the case, and the decision of who to appoint now rests entirely with the attorney general.The current special counsel regulations specify that:[6]The Attorney General, or in cases in which the Attorney General is recused, the Acting Attorney General, will appoint a Special Counsel when he or she determines that criminal investigation of a person or matter is warranted and—
- (a) That investigation or prosecution of that person or matter by a United States Attorney's Office or litigating Division of the Department of Justice would present a conflict of interest for the Department or other extraordinary circumstances; and
- (b) That under the circumstances, it would be in the public interest to appoint an outside Special Counsel to assume responsibility for the matter.
Tal Mueller has not been and is not subject to Congressional oversight, there were no hearings to determine his suitability and to confirm his appointmentQuote:
The degree of power in Mueller's office exceeds anything we have ever seen, and simply can't be asserted by anybody who isn't subject to Congressional approval.
Geez Clete! Read the link and stop sounding like the DUFUS. Special Counsels do not require confirmation by the congress! Don't you loony right wingers care about the law? You certainly don't care about the facts!
The congress does have oversight over most everything here. There is also a process and procedure to follow in that oversight. The Dufus and his republican sycophants in the congress don't want you to know that though, and holler to high heaven about a witch hunt by the deep government and loony's like you swallow that crap.
BUMMER!
Yes there has been a big one today Dump has called off his meeting with Kim citing hostility. He should have told the truth and said ego. He knows that Kim wasn't giving away anything so Mueller becomes a side show, I wonder what rabbit he will pull out to get back in the headlinesQuote:
BUMMER!
Trump dumps Kim is no biggie, just a lovers spat after NK's disrespect of Trumps VP, but spygate turns out to be another nuthin' burger spun by Dufus and his FAKE News sycophants, so Dufus jumps back on the football players kneeling to the flag and thanks the owners for kissing his fat orange a$$.
Everybody is talking loud saying nothing except Mueller, who just keeps his mouth shut, and turns the screws to The Dufus Circle jerk buddies.Just another day in America.
Just wait for Friday!
It's Friday here already, not much is happening, rumour has it Trump has been played but I wonder whether Bolton and Pence should have kept it their pants and let Trump make all the running. Meanwhile we are busy chasing supernovas in our beautiful clear skies. I fail to understand why a few football freaks should warrant such attention but then everything about that strange game you play just goes over my headQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The Dufus has made football players specifically black football players who kneel at the playing of the national anthem to protest police brutality his target to brand them as unpatriotic. This week the NFL has issued a rule that they must stand or stay in the locker room or be fined. The problem with that is the players have a union which means a process to implement rules and policy, but they were not consulted. Football is a big deal here, like soccer throughout the world. We have baseball and basket ball as well as hockey wrestling and boxing because we are a sports nation. Oh! We like our concerts and car racing too!
Yes it's finally Friday here and that means the news dump is coming and already The Dufus is seeking a briefing as to the meeting (That he called) held Thursday about his allegations the FBI and CIA put spies in his campaign. It's just a ploy though to shutdown Mueller, because he is finding out he had some informants in his midst, along with the criminals he employs that ARE going to jail or squeal on the lying cheating big mouth bully.
OH! The summit with NK may be on again. Have a happy Saturday. 8)
Yes, a fine, foggy, frosty morning and in the light of dawn, Dump is blown in the wind again. You must remember we too are a sporting nation. I hear Putin is fed up with Trump, news fog around Trump means no one can get anything done
The same fog must surround Mueller as they are starting to predict the end of the inquiry
Mueller is in no fog and just steadily doing his job. Everything else is noise from the uniformed right wing peanut gallery. Even the left wing talking heads have no clue what he ha,s but if the indictments and convictions so far, it's fair to say more are coming.
Seems to be driving the Dufus and his republican sycophants nuts by their words, and actions.
Perhaps a lot of this is noise from the uninformed leftQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...nts-grand-jury
Mueller hasn't found any evidence connecting Trump to any of it. The most grievous charges have been lying to the FBI which would not have happened if this witch hunt had not begun. Charges against foreign nationals and companies are showboating.
What drives people nuts is all of this is a distraction and a media run circus. Trump is guilty of being an idiot in his private life but then that seems par for the course for left wing presidents also
A plea deal for lesser charges never reveals the more serious ones these criminals were facing but you don't get a deal without FULL cooperation so this circus witch hunt that The Dufus and YOU tout it to be probably has more to be revealed later. Of course you loony right wingers don't want your Dufus to be revealed as a CRIMINAL because he already is a PROVEN liar and cheater. Not just in his marriage but business dealings.
The thing you righties never mention is the ones going after this Dufus are his fellow repubs and people HE appointed. Okay us lefties are cheering Mueller on! (He wanted Mueller to run HIS FBI remember?).
You appear to be a very uninformed righty Clete! Old age must be catching up to you...or the WINE!
8D
Resorting to insults Tal, shows you lost the argument, I have given up drinking TalQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
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Of course you loony right wingers don't want your Dufus to be revealed as a CRIMINAL because he already is a PROVEN liar and cheater
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You are confusing me with someone else, I don't care whether Trump is caught with his pants down or priming the pump. It doesn't matter to me. I see the choice you had as between liars, cheats and possible criminals anyway.
Yes your politicians are confused as to which side they are on, that is because Trump is not one of them and he can't be bought, but he can be compromised, so they dig the dirt, that is what politicians do. In a few months some of them are going to be out of business, so this is a last hurrah. A lot of Dons tilting at windmills.
Trump is successful in a way you leftists hate, he laughs at you, because deep down he doesn't care. It isn't about you
You know the old saying... he who laughs last.. There is no confusion! It's Dufusism, or common sense. We agree that it is crazy season, and election year theatrics are abound.
Yes we understand, there might be one skulking in the corners here too.
I think Dump is going to have the laugh on you when he and Kim become mates. I see a Trump hotel in Phongyang, Dump will explain the economics of casinos to Kim and how they can fleece those chinese high rollers. Kim will no longer need nukes and missiles and who knows with some new reps he might even get something done despite those recalcicant demorats and republicrats
I don't see The Big Dufus and Little Dufus getting together soon, and Big Dufus has just hit NK's sponsor China with new tariffs, so the game continues. Lol The right wingers are screaming foul at Mueller, and the left is speculating while Mueller remains silent.
I hear you can get the commemorative coin at deep discount prices . btw ; if spygate was a nothing burger then who is Stefan Halper ?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.f03c34a38c89
Whether he is a spy or informant depends on who you ask, but informants are pretty common to law enforcement on EVERY level and a part intelligence gathering as well. Of course everybody is a spy, snitch, or leaker to The Dufus and his public mouthpiece Rudy who never wants any facts other than HIS truth to be revealed, so he calls it spying.
That's why he paid the big bucks to silence a porn star and playboy bunny he was screwing. Granted that was years ago but his whole history is about dirty deals and criminals and shady tactics so to suggest not looking into this DUDE is INSANE. Lets at least see if he did indeed shoot a guy in the middle of the street in broad daylight.
His past disregard for law and ordered begs close scrutiny now.
Kim; I want picture with Orange guy
Dufus; Sure bring me money!
Kim; We got no money just Nukes!
Dufus: We got Nukes we want money. Summit coin not work crap, so bring real money.
Kim: How about discount on crappy coin as sign of good faith?
Dufus: You want good faith talk to the pope! We want money!
Kim: Damn what was hostages worth?
Dufus: Rating weren't that high but I'll give you a free coin at summit, SEND money first!
Kim; Chinese will pay.
Dufus; Not after I take their money with tariffs!
Xi; We cancel our soybean order from you and go to South America!
Dufus; Talk to you guys later, got a meeting with Mikey D's scheduled. Let me know when YALL get some money!
Stefan Halper ..Former classmate of Bubba Clinton at Oxford who had close ties to the Clintoons. His father in law is Ray Cline ,who was a CIA analyst for years . Let me ask you ; the claim now is that they had to place an informant inside the Trump campaign (they don't deny it anymore ) for Trump's protection from Russia ....Did they also place an informant in the Evita campaign for her protection from Russia ? Did they run a sting inside Evita's campaign like they did to Papadopoulos ;luring him to London to do paid research ? Why did he offer his foreign policy expertise to former Trump campaign co-chair Clovis if not to spy on Trump's campaign ?
The code name for his operation against the Trump campaign was named'Crossfire Hurricane ' . The name comes from the Rolling Stone's lyrics in 'Jumping Jack Flash ' ,but the reference comes from the Penny Marshall movie 'Jumping Jack Flash' in which a bank office comes to the aid of a British Spy being chased by the KGB. In other words ,the code name refers to former Brit spy Christopher Steele who's Russian ties allegedly linked Trump campaign operatives and Trump himself to Russia . His salacious and unverified allegations were then used as an excuse to secure FISA warrants and otherwise to spy on the Trump campaign . But the narrative didn't wash so they modified the story to say that the warrants came from Halper's contacts with Carter Page and Papadopoulos .
You are right about one thing . He wasn't really an informant . He was more like an agent provocateur, whose job was to ask leading questions to get Trump campaign advisers to say things that would support evidence that supported the predetermined narrative , that the Trump campaign was in collusion with the Russians to steal the election. Halper’s job was to induce inexperienced Trump campaign figures to say things that corroborated the Steele dossier . Halper’s fishing expedition came up with nothing to suggest the Steele dossier was true. But it did put Papadopoulos in legal jeopardy when Mueller was able to pin some process crimes on him. And still after over 2 years of this nonsense ,Mueller has found nothing to suggest that Trump and the Russians colluded to take over the White House.
Questions to be asked ...Was Halper the only one paid by the FBI to infiltrate the Trump campaign ? Under whose authority were they spying on a political campaign? Did FBI and DOJ leadership sign off? Did FBI director James Comey and AG Loretta Lynch know about it? What about other senior Obama administration officials? CIA Director John Brennan? Did the emperor know the FBI was spying on a presidential campaign? Did Evita know? What about her chairman John Podesta?
'It’s a gas, gas, gas!'
It was more an INTERVEIW than an embedding of a spy INSIDE the campaign. How do you conflate the two. Unless you have evidence not made public. Mueller does no doubt, and he ain't talking. Just your boy Rudy for your boy Trump, and as always you filling the blanks with some WHOPPERS!
Must be a New York thing!
You are right about it being gas Tom
Tal Halper indeed did try to infiltrate the Trump campaign by touting his foreign policy expertise to Clovis as I already pointed out .It wasn't an interview . He conducted a sting operation against Page and especiallyPapadopoulos ,who he lured to London under false premises while he pumped him for information about rumors thatPapadopoulos heard about Evita emails. He did this only to build a false case for justifying the FEMA surveillance of the Trump campaign . The Justice Dept IG will come to that very conclusion when he finished his investigation.
Halper came in well after the investigation started and there was enough contact by the Dufus and his minions after being WARNED about the Russians to get probable cause. Had they simply reported and acknowledge those contacts we wouldn't be here would we? No the took steps to hide and cover it up and if you cannot be suspicious of such activity then you must also go along with the semantic acrobatics of Rudy and the DUFUS, and sycophant butt boy #1 Nunes and the house repubs.
No biggie to me just own it and we see what happens.
Trey Gowdy says he sees no evidence of spying on the Trump campaign. HOHUM, another Dufus lie DEBUNKED!
Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy disputes Trump's 'spy' claim, says FBI acted properly - Chicago Tribune
Let's go with your theory . The Obots had legitimate concerns about Page, Manafort and Papadopoulos in the spring of 2016. They could've interviewed Page as the FBI had done several times since 2013 . Page had been approached by Moscow before and he had cooperated with the Feds . BTW ,the Ruskies considered Page an 'idiot ' and there was zero chance he would be involved serving their interests
They could've done the same for Manafort and his partner Gates who were already in conversation with the Feds about representing Ukrainian interests . They could've been upfront with Trump about their concerns about these members of Trump's campaign instead of conducting counter-intelligence against their political opponent in an election campaign.
Instead, the emperor and his minions decided to use its counterintelligence powers to spy on the Trump campaign, using at least one spy , electronic monitoring of communications without probable cause proven , and other intelligence-gathering tactics (like the attempted sting of Papadopoulos ). It ignored the long time norm against deploying such tactics against political opponents, not based on any evidence of a Trump-Russia criminal conspiracy, but on speculation about the Trump campaign’s Russia contacts and Russia sympathies. Speculation btw by an administration, and a Democrat nominee with their own sordid histories of Russia contacts and Russia sympathies.(Evita's reset ;the emperor kow-towing to Russia to get their cooperation in the Iran sell out deal ;the emperor ushering in Russia's membership in the WTO . His one sided START treaty .the emperor mocking Romney when he called Russia our greatest strategic threat ;the emperor being heard on open mike telling Medvedev that he will have more flexibility after the 2012 elections to make deals favorable to Russia ,supporting the Kremlin’s agenda of hamstringing America;Evita's role in Uranium One ,the fact that the Kremlin paid Bubba $145 million for a short speech . ) It is simply not credible that the Obots believe that they had to use spies and FISA surveillance against the Trump campaign due to suspicion that Trump might embrace and empower Moscow. They did just that for 8 years . No ,the emperor deployed the intelligence and investigative arms of the US government for politically motivated reasons that they still can't back up with credible facts .
For the record Halper's encounter with Page occurred prior to July 31, 2016 (the date the FBI has said the investigation began) . They met mid-July at Cambridge and Page says the invitation was received in early June. Page says his attendance at the Cambridge event was paid for by the organizers . Sounds like another sting attempt to me .
as for Gowdy ,he is playing the same semantics game the left is playing . This doesn't surprise me too much . He resigned so he can go back into private practice . He expects to rake in the dough ,which means he probably needs Democrat clients . How did he come to that conclusion....with the information the FBI has refused to release to him and Nunes ?
A republican senator said,
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rubi...ry?id=55444997
and how did Trump treat Rubio during the campaign ? Seriously ? It should come as no surprise that there are many never -Trumpers from both parties in office . Rubio has seen even less evidence than Gowdy . Release all the documents and let us decide .
You ever heard of an investigator releasing his documents before he finished his investigation? Wouldn't that be insane? Even senile Rudy would never do that. Until then you have every right to believe a lying cheating Dufus and his sycophants and Alex Jones or all the right wing hollering you want. Don't expect such a bleeding heart liberal as myself to go along though, or give your theories any credence. I'll wait and see what happens next.
Just to note also that obviously not everyone is going to roll over and kiss Trumps ring. Sometimes people don't forget they hate his a$$ and may do things to undermine him. So Rubio is lying and has an agenda. So what? Why should he believe a proved liar loudmouth bully?
Have you heard from #1 butt boy Nunes? Even the FOX crew is calling spygate a bunch of BS.
Don't worry Tal Trump will issue a blanket pardon and the circus will leave town
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...ellers-inquest
Caputo and Roger Stone now remember Talking to the Russians after 2 years of not that I recall.
Former Trump Operative Roger Stone Met With Russian Who Offered Damaging Hillary Clinton Information for $2 Million | KTLA
If you're keeping count that's 12 Trump cronies that had contact with Russians and FORGOT.
It seems to me that Trump counting the Russians is not news, as a business man in the hotel business he was looking to build in Russia
all you need to know .....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIVzua11qYc
I'm not sure I need to know any of it Tom
The one thing that Horowitz misses is that his agency at the senior level has always been political dating back to the Hoover days .
Anti-Trump FBI agent Peter Strzok was forcibly removed from the bureau Tuesday afternoon, with multiple sources saying he was “escorted” from his office after the Inspector General’s scathing report.
Politics is everywhere in this country so good luck separating it from policy and practice or LAW. So Strzok takes his leave as THAT process leaves the front page and the next events takes over. I know you would rather get the dirt on Mueller, while Mueller gets the dirt on The Dufus Gang, but you know how this works... whatever the latest BREAKING NEWS comes up is what we holler about.
Like the old story about lead poisoning that continues in Michigan. Or Wilbur Ross dumping stocks ahead of the trade wars. You know, political news that the Dufus rather you not talk about.
why is lead in the water in Michigan Trump's fault ?
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