Yup, that Second Amendment militia....
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Yup, that Second Amendment militia....
Is this your reaction to my reaction? I am sorry, but I don't know what you mean. What is your opinion on the 2nd amendment and the NRA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Did you read this:
I am an American and a USN veteran. I am a long time gun owner. My guns are registered and I have a permit to carry them. I am all in favor of CHANGE to our current laws concerning gun control. Serious change. I do not hide behind the 2nd amendment or twist its meaning as the NRA and the gun manufacturers do to further their cause in their effort to flood our streets with guns. These two entities are joined at the hip and one cannot survive without the other. They do not make the rules, but they think they do, and I want to put an end to it. I actually hold them COMPLICIT in every massacre and shooting in America. They may not have pulled the trigger but they certainly supplied the ammunition.
It's time for CHANGE right now. This cartel (NRA and gun manufacturers) need to be held accountable. We need a ban on automatic weapons as well as large capacity magazines. We need full registration for all semi-automatic weapons. We need licensing and training for anyone in order to carry . We need some type of a mental evaluation for those who want to own these weapons. Anyone who owns or intends to own a gun should also need a permit to do so.
Owning and carrying a LETHAL weapon should come with some serious Responsibility.
No one should be able to simply walk into a gun store an buy an AR 15 and large capacity magazines without having to show that they are responsible enough to do so.
Thank you.
It is the top reaction at Obama's speech on Facebook. I totally agree with this man.
I was reacting to smoothy's comment about the right to own guns.
Years ago, a friend of mine legally bought an AR-15. Orin had been tested at 85 IQ. I prayed he and the rest of Illinois would be safe. He had no business owning a gun.
Typical Liberal... that thinks OPINIONS of a bill or rights changes anything. Its fixed its in writing. Its no less sacred than anyone's right to free speech or anything else.
Its people LIKE YOU that are complicit with people that murder others... not the NRA. You really are completely out of touch with reality. Thank god you are in Europe... not here.
WHat do you know about the NRA?. not one damn thing. You have never even been to the USA... you have no concept of what freedom is and what its like to be an American.
You also have no grasp of what it is to be accountable.
What we need is mental evaluations for people kike you that think they are better than everyone else... because people like YOU that think they have any right to even comment on what another country and it s people can or even should do is a serious danger.
YOU would have been one of the people handing over the Jews to the Naxis and their sympathizers if you have been alive during that period.
We need a ban on people like YOU opening your mouth... because you clearly are poorly educated... and have a very poor grasp of facts.
People like you should have to have a permit to be allowed to even use the enternet or speak. Don't like that do you... well you really don't have the right to make those demands... and you haven't shown that you are responsible enough to even be allowed to use the internet.
Good lord... are you off your meds or something... seriously. You vote Communist party, don't you? Because you make liberals look conservative. Next you are going to be saying anyone that doesn't think like you should not be allowed to vote too.
What do you really know about the USA... you have proven you really know absolutely NOTHING. And in fact have proven 90% of what you think you know is wrong...
You are delusional. YOU deserve Obama, why don't you invite him tot move there so he can bankrupt your country too... and you deserve the crime that will follow all those illegals. Lets hope they come to your home town. Maybe you will find out what they are really like then.
NO wonder The Netherlands are an even bigger Joke than France is worldwide.
But at the end of the day....when your crime rates skyrocket....your house robbed....remember...you brought this all upon yourself.
Because thank Goodness...people like you DON'T exist in large numbers...and don't exist here....and nothing you can do or say...changes OUR legal right to have guns....and have fun with them. I'd rather have 20 gun shops near me than 20 drug bars where everyone abuses drugs daily like there.
Gun shops and gun owners are ALL better, safer and nicer people that any of the drug addicts you have there. As well as all your self righteous know-it-alls.
I trust gun owners...I do not trust the Dutch....no gun owner has considered denying other peoples rights.
Good luck trying to take our guns.....we have over 350 million will armed citizens that will shoot anyone that trys. So you better accept it and get used to it because its NOT going to change.
Oh..next time you need our Military to save your butts......don't bother calling us. you can try talking them to death....see how well that works.
smoothy wants to protect his 2nd amendment rights but it really comes down to this; in a nation where there is no implicit right to life why should anyone care who shoots who, implicitally you have the right to commit murder, and it you don't your second amendment rights are impinged. Does an prisoner have 2nd amendment rights? If not then it is not an inalienable right and therefore should be regulated. You want to bare arms but most people forego this right because sensibly it is dangerous to do so and they just own guns, if you wore a sword in the street today you would be arrested so what is so special about guns. Don't worry one day you will grow up and stop playing with guns
Paraclete. It's the people who foam at the mouths about others ACTUAL right to own weapons that are the ones that support baby murder the most. Which is exactly what abortion is. Want to talk about right to life? TO the average gun grabbing liberal. A baby has no right to life, but Criminals do. They believe criminals have a greater right than law abiding citizens have.
I see very strong parallels between a certain member who bashes gun owners... drips hatred towards whites, Christians and others that don't think like she does... and thinks they are somehow superior to everyone else.
Does everyone remember the Brownshirts, . of the National Socialist movement of the 30's? I remember...and I'm sure you do too, but I guess someone else's education somehow didn't cover that because that's exactly how they are acting.
Those who feel they have the RIGHT to murder the innocent (aka Abortion)....really don't believe in an implicit right to life. Criminals do not have one. Specifically criminals who commit criminal acts upon others.
A criminal who assaults me or my family..or breaks into my house has no implicit right to life.
I think you just proved my point, if there is no implicit right to life, then murder become a right supported by a right to be armed. There is no difference between those who don't give the unborn right to life and those who defend themselves at the point of a gun. I don't agree with the abolition of the death penalty in cases of murder or serious crime either. What purpose is served by keeping a murderer, rapist or pedophile alive? Time an time again we have seen such people reoffend. What purpose is served by keeping a terrorist alive? Why should we allow those who would radicalise a teenager to remain alive. The answer is we are stupid
I agree... there is a serious hipocracy with those who support abortion yet fight against the Death Penalty. This is not a Muslim nation. The death penalty is not given out to minor crimes. And its not given without a lot of rights of appeal, which I believe is 10 appeals through the courts are allowed before it will take place unless the right to appeal is waved by the individual.
The person having the abortion denies all of that to an innocent party that has never harmed anyone or committed any crime.
Me personally I am not a rabid pro-lifer but I am not on the opposing side by a long shot. I view it as most of the people getting them are doing the Human gene pool a favor by not polluting it as much.
You mean black people, right?Quote:
I view it as most of the people getting them are doing the Human gene pool a favor by not polluting it as much.
No.. I mean everyone that gets an abortion, regardless of ethnicity. Most of them are too lazy to actually use birth control, or more like not smart enough to know what actually IS birth control. Read some of the Am I pregnant threads....I rest my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Speak for yourself Clete, unless you actually read our constitution and understand it. Don't feel bad though as many who claim they are for the constitution get it wrong. How else can they quote their rights but deny others those rights (Abortion for example)? Yes, it's been a constitutional right of women since the 70's.
So nit pick your favorite right, because if YOU are so entitled, so is everyone else right? That's how we get a young nut having the legal right to buy 14 guns, and kill a bunch of folks in a state that allows carrying a gun on a college campus.
He wasn't a criminal until he killed people, including himself. Ranting and raving over your rights because of what YOU like and dislike is no more important than MY rights no matter how hard you worked, or how smart and experienced you are, your predisposition on who is better than who notwithstanding.
We may not be a Muslim country, but you cannot ignore the muslims who live peacefully within our laws. Even though the founders made laws based on Christian principles, we are a republic, and not a Christian nation.
While you are free to thump your bible, it matters NOT what bible you thump. Read your constitution.
I don't know Tal... Obama has been publicly making claims some of our Founders were Muslims... Obama however has never been able to prove who they were. Because there is no proof of that claim at all. In fact all the proof is to the Contrary. Not ONE person who sighed the Declaration of independence OR the Bill or rights was ever a Muslim. But not all that did were religious either.
But you are right... we are a Republic.. not a Democracy.. ( amazing how many people don't know the difference)
If you mean his speech celebrating the Muslim holiday, twisted by haters to mean something totally different, we can debate that claim unless you have links that say other wise.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press...on-eid-al-fitr
On the basis of...
American Muslim History
I find no claim he made that Muslims signed the Declaration of Independence... so show me those claims YOU reference please and let's debate FACTS and not propaganda.
Islam like Christianity has many followers and branches and some are not as representative as others as I have referenced MANY examples of this on this forum MANY times for many of the major religions that have both bad actors and bad behavior in whatever god they claim.
Misinformation is the true culprit of misunderstandings throughout history and only a devil would serve such food for the closed minded. Upon study you may be shocked to find the Good People of Islam are no different than the Good People of Christianity, or any other religion.
Haters cannot stand that simple TRUTH.
Well I heard the same speech. And I take him at his word.. literally... and he did make such claims. The Democrats claim he is so elegant with words... no need to take anything other than face value.
And I have the Best reason in the world there can be to HATE ISLAM. I was one of their targets, they tried to kill me and almost succeeded that got away. They did kill people I know and friends of mine. And the majority of them are in support of that element to various degrees.
Sorry... I do NOT have to like them or have any sympathetic thoughts towards them. I can NOT turn the other cheek particularly with that group who is so hypersensitive they are still living in the 6th century and bellyaching about what happened over a thousand years ago. And still killing people over what happened generations ago.
smoothy, what did Obama say to make you think some of our founders were Muslim?
He made statements about Muslims founding this country... no Muslims were involved in the founding of this this country. There is no evidence there were even any Muslims involved in the fighting for our independence. They are latecomers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Since this is all about founders... later wars do not apply.
I find it very hard to believe that he said that. Even third graders know that's not true. Do you have a link to this?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
There is some disturbing raciest statements that I have read during this post. Calling refugees 'lazy, stupid and cowedly' because these people are fleeing genocide and forced migration. I'm sure the people who have made these statements are to ignorant to even acknowledge that they are raciest which is why it is hard to change someone's mind.
Really and your Life experience proving they aren't is what exactly. Do you even know what defines Genocide? Apparently not. Syrian is not an ethnicity... its a nationality. The Iranians and some of the Jews are the only actual different Ethnic groups in the area...Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
Genocide is an attempt to wipe out a specific ETHNIC group. THat isn't happening there.
Are any of these people fighting for their homeland... no they are running... most of them are able bodied Males... not children, women or old people. That makes them Cowards. Europe does not border Syria... why can't they stay in any one of THOSE countries. Explain THAT.
People like YOU who are arrogant enough to think YOUR perspective is the only one.
Maybe if you got out of your town once in a while you might get a better view of things. Its clear you have no concept of the trouble these illegals.. and that IS what they are are causing in Europe. I know a LOT of Europeans....most of them don't want them there and for good reason.
And Europe does have the right to decide if they will accept them or not. Funny how no Muslim countries are opening invitations for them. Wonder why that is?
And its ALWAYS the people that scream Racist at others that are the ones who themselves are the true racists.
In fact..why doesn't RUSSIA take them all...they are so bound on escalating all of this. Last I heard they weren't taking any.
I have personal direct first hand experience with the Albanian "Refugees"....the Libyan Tunisian, and Algerian "refugees"...not to mention the Romanian "refugees" in Europe
None of them are good contributors to the countries they invade. The Syrians won't be either.
Its comical how the armchair quarterbacks that haven't seen ANY of them face to face or seen what they have done personally claim to be experts....
To 'smoothy, uber member' You're the one who labelled them 'lazy and stupid' so I'm not sure as to why you think I'm the racist as you're the one who grouped them as one. People are people, it doesn't matter where you are from
I am a legal European Resident and have been for 28 years... though I do spend most of my time in the USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
I have property and family there and have seen EVERYTHING I claim over that time...
Its easy for you to make those claims living in Podunk or wherever. Anyone that doesn't live where they are.
I also narrowly escaped with my life on 9/11. I earned the right to say what I have. And I have the DIRECT experience behind what I say.
I have family at risk by these undesireables... in fact my mother-in-law AND both my sister-in-laws have been robbed by these people who do not belong there in the last year.
They have never in their lives been robbed by citizens of their own country or anyone else before the muslim invasion the last several years from the south and the east.
The crime rate has skyrocketed since they came and its only getting worse.
Firstly you have the right to say what you want regardless of 9/11. Secondly if the refugesss coming over are of mixed religious back grounds, why label the 'Muslim invasion' there are over 1 and a half billion Muslims in the world. Sounds like labelling again.
They came from Muslim Majority countries... and its no secret... no other religion is allowed to thrive in a Muslim majority nation...Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
When 99% of a countries Religious community is Muslim... then its fair and proper to consider all of them Muslim.
And Albanians ( mostly Caucasian) do not look like the Syrians, Algerians, Tunisians, or Libyans (who are mostly ethnically the same Mostly Arab) So there is no doubt which group it wasn't since NONE of them look like the native population of Italy. And yes I have seen them myself up close and personal. Its not mistaken Identity.
Funny..are you Muslim? Do YOU want to live under Sharia? DO you know that's what they demand anywhere they develop a large enough majority....even in the USA.
Are you as quick to defend Jews or Christians? You don't have a post count that establishes where you stand on those points.
You are still judging a people on there religious background. Despite there being over 400,000 Christians living in Sirea. I know it's difficult to except you're a racist but you should read back at your narrow views.
Racists are the ones that are so fond of brandishing it around so freely. Perhaps YOU need to look in the mirror at the true racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
Have you ever lived or worked outside of your home country... and not as part of the Military.
And incidentally... Chistians don't kiss the ground on prayer rugs. Its pretty obvious from that alone who is what religion.
Christians would be in a Church... and they are strangely devoid in any of them. Since between us and my inlaws we attend three different ones regularly... adding in my friends there... that jumps a lot higher and branches into multiple cities. They haven't seen them there either.
I don't know why you keep saying I am racist. I am saying you are due to your consistent and negative comments about muslims and refugees. Why do you think I am rasicst?
Misspurple, I live here, and I can tell you, its NOT how you are saying, here I see more people being atheist. And talk about Patriarchal? I come from that background, not bcos I am Christian but bcos of my original native country culture. I know how it is to be in patriarchal society, and its nothing like here in the US. I am so grateful to be here for that reason, trust me. Lol. I know every country and society has their own problems and goodness.Quote:
Because the US is so Christian it is so patriarchal
For the gun laws you blame US not the person who misuse this freedom of protecting themselves? No wonder, You blame God and His word for every bad thing going on this world, rather then blaming on the individual who take the word out of context or without whole understanding, twist it and manipulate it and use it as excuse for their own evil deeds.
I don't know where did you hear all this. Ask any person US person here, they will give you true fact. I think most of the Christian people do that and only few non Christian would do that.Quote:
In the US a lot of children are being raised with the idea that they should save themselves for marriage
I am a Christian Women, a women who is Christian and also Married, I never experience the things what you are accusing the bible for. I don't deny that there will be man women who would have that experience, but it doesn't have to be Christian, it can be any religion, muslim, hindu, Buddhism, etc etc, and also atheist people can be like that. I think What you have experienced in your own life and your own family! You are trying to assume that every people around behaves and does like that. NO misspurple, as you had diff experience then me like wise in those matters every one has their own experience, you cant generalize every other person to be like that.Quote:
According to the Bible women should be obedient. So unconsciously these angry misogynists, feel that they are being wronged, for not having sex with an obedient girlfriend, that they are raised to believe would adore them.
Misogynists book? I don't want to do this but I also cant keep quite bcos Its been too many times read your post about this hatred You blamed Abraham and His God! GO to Genesis there is a story where Abraham out of fear tells the king that Sarah is his sister, bcos Sarah was so beautiful that he feared if he revealed that she is his wife, the king will kill him , inorder to get the sarah. But see how beautiful the "Abrahamic God is" He goes by himself and talk to that king in his dream that, don't even try to touch my Sarah, She is the wife of the Abraham not her sis, give her back to Abraham. The king out of fear, not only return Sarah but also give Abraham gifts etc etc. The point here to notice is. Why god himself intervene? Bcos Abraham can have baby with any one he wants, for eg- Hagar>Ishamail. But You know why, God is not God of patriarchal, He made both man and women in his own image. For God Sarah was as important as Abraham. HER flesh and seed was as important as Abraham. She was as equal as Abraham. Even though Hagar gave Sarah and Abraham a baby but when Sarah had ISAAC her own blood baby, then notice what heppend, Sarah ruled over Abraham decision and told him to let the Hagar and her baby go away. Abraham was hurt and sobbing. Because it was His Child anyway. But You know What 'God of Bible' said? He said to Abraham, Abraham! Listen to your wife Sarah what she says and to respect her decision, he is going to take care of hagar and her son, don't worry. Its Basically- 'Do what Sarah says. This is not just one example but so many examples are there. I don't want to type so much lol. What I said is not a preaching, I was myself in pain and asked God to answer me the truth and He revealed me His ''TRue nature'', not form anywhere else but from His own Book, ''Bible''. So, In order for us to know the truth we have to ourselfef go and seek and read it and not depending on some YouTube vedio to dictate our thoughts. I know you don't believe in bible, but how funny still how you proclaim about it in a bad sense as if you know it all and read it everyday! And I am saying this in Love, the very reason you say it because you don't read it. If you have read it in a way( ''.. anyone have ears let them hear.. ") then you have understood is. My firend, sometimes its more then what it appears.
Its just like this, how you are feeling right now in your Life, AS you are seeing people saying bad things about refugees and its also impacting whoever hearing this. But you have totally diff. personal experience with the REFUGEE friends near you. Peace.
Thank you. You are totally right. I have trouble accepting that people can really believe those disturbing racist things, because they sound completely insane to me, but I should learn to accept that there are racists out there, that are even so deluded that they don't even realise that they are racist. If you try to reason with them, nothing good comes out of it, as you could also clearly notice on this thread. It really breaks my heart to see all this hate, but it seems as if there is really nothing that I can do about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
Look in the mirror.. YOU are the racist because you have this fixation that everyone who does not agree with you is one. Fact the music. Muslims DESERVE it. What have they done to help humanity in the last 1,600 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Palmer Eldritch
NOTHING is the answer... what aid have they contributed to non-muslims... NOTHING. That's because its against their religion to help non-muslims.
Maybe YOU are a muslim... so are you? YOU seem to have the strange love affair with the Religion of oppression and terrorism.
And you never answers my other question... exactly WHAT experience do you have with ANY of these illegals... and none of them are refugees. IF the stopped at the first or second NEIGHBORING country... so they could return they might be... because they insu=ist on traveling half way across the planet to get free handouts and welfare. That makes them economic opportunists.
If you have ever been out of your home town... maybe you would grasp this.
So mister illegal advocate... exactly or roughly what total numbers have been invading Europe per week... per month per year, How about starting since Obama facilitated killing Kaddafi? ANy idea how many have been invading Italy... a country the size of Pennsyvania in size.
Take a wild guess how many per week average... I know the numbers... do you? And these are every week for the last how many years.. And I'm talking just the ones they KNOW of to make it easy.
Are you really that stupid? I am trying really hard NOT to believe that. Then you dream more stuff up. In Italy ALONE there are over 5,000 per week flooding in... they have been flooding in since Kadaffi was killed years ago. DO the math. YOu are capable of doing math aren't you? There were higher weeks..and the erwere lower weeks and the actual average is a bit higher but since the numbers are so high...I'm fine rounding it down to that. There are a lot they don't know of so can't count and some night pass through but those nearly balance out.Quote:
Originally Posted by misspurple77
IN fact round it DOWN to 5.000 per week. He was killed just shy of 4 years ago, and it started almost immediately. There are 52 weeks a year... 4 years makes that 208 weeks. Taking a low average of 5,000 per week and these are those they know of... for ONE country... that equals 1,040,000 Illegals JUST in Italy, and they for the most part Aren't passing through..
My numbers are from Italian government estimates. Or are you more of an authority than the Italian Dept of Justice? I got them from people who work in it directly. People that I talk with every week.
Italy has roughly 55 million Citizens. 1,040,000 Illegals is a significant percentage... and that JUST for Italy. Tht does not account for all the rest elsewhere.
Since Italy has roughly 55 million citizens.....with 1,040,000 known illegals that's a SIGNIFICANT percentage. Particuly for someone who has been so indignant about Europeans going to the American Continent...but sorry...you excuse the Spanish and what they did in you parents native country and in fact 2/3 of the American Continent, and what the French did in Canada.....you only care about what the English did to the Current USA.
Doesn't fit your propaganda you are being fed far from any of these places. Does it?
We aren't talking hundreds..we aren't even talking thousands....but MILLIONS over the last 4 years alone over Europe in its entirety.
If even 1% are radicalized Muslims....which is less than statistical averages for that group...YOU are in for a rough future....but don't come running here....you made your beds...sleep in them now.
I don't blame God for anything, because he doesn't exist. I believe that the Talmud, Bible and Koran were written by misogynistic homophobic men, because among other things, this is what is written in all of these books (I got it from a letter to dr. Laura):Quote:
Originally Posted by Precious7
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness - Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord - Lev.1:9. The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination, Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this? Are there 'degrees' of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle-room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
So that has nothing to do with my personal experiences.
Have you never heard about purity balls? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purity_ball There are a lot of American girls promising their fathers to save themselves there, I read a lot of articles about it and saw documentaries on television. I don't know where from the US you live, but from what I understood, most of these things take place in the South.
I already made up my mind, when I saw the YouTube video, Stephen Fry is just more eloquent than I am. He coincidentally has the same thoughts as me. I saw my father dying of cacere in 201, 2012 and 2013 he had Multiple Myeloma. I saw how horrible that disease was and I realised that little children die of leukemia and that the so called benevolent omnipotent God allowed that. So I couldn't believe anymore that he was both. There has never been any scientific proof presented that Gid exists, so all of that led me to conclude that there is no God, but if he would exist, I do not like him.
You are not the first theist that is trying to win me back, and you won't succeed either. So lets agree to disagree all right? It took me years to reach this conclusion.
The big difference between an opinion about God and an opinion about refugees is the impact. People can hurt other people. We can't hurt God. I don't believe that he exists, but even if he would exist, we can't rob, rape or murder God, as some people are doing with refugees right now, because they see them as less than human.
Back to the refugee problem -- how can we separate the real refugees who really need help and food and shelter from the opportunists who are posing as refugees?
Here's another question: who keeps giving negative ratings in a thread designed to not allow ratings??
Depending on what skin you have... you can see who gave it to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I think that that is really hard. How can you prove that someone has been living in Turkey for years? So that is why Europe should come with an European solution. It is not fair to expect Italy and Greece to take most of the refugees, because most arrive there, but it is not fair to let all of them come to The Netherlands, the UK and Germany, because they think that life is better here. The refugees should be equally divided over all of Europe, including the Eastern Europe countries, that aren't willing to accept them at this moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What has always worked... you set up refugee camps in neighboring countries and provide aid to those countries to help offset costs for them. Actual refugees will be eager to return home as soon as they can... the rest really aren't refugees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I just got one from Smoothy, so probably you too! He just can't stand people disagreeing with him or calling him racist. If you change your skin to original, you can see who gave you an reputation. I gave you a good one:-D!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
THat was in response to one you gave me first... so don't play Miss innocent... or I'll post it.Quote:
Originally Posted by misspurple77
So let's shelter them for now and meanwhile bomb the heck out of the bad guys, kill 'em all,, then let the refugees return to rebuild (with other nations' physical and financial help?).Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
I'm all for sheltering them in THAT region... not Europe where you really can't live in a tent most of the year. True much of Europe's winters are mild compared to Chicago (lets be honest, Chicago has some brutal winters)...but they are far more brutal than their own region.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Most of Italy would be brutal in the winter in a tent. The rest of it would be brutal in the Summer in a tent. Anything north of Italy would be horrific in the winter in a tent. The Middle east doesn't have the Oppressive Humidity of southern Italy which does rival the Gulf region of South East USA
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