Hello again, smoothy:
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Individual responsibility is also not having six kids if you can only support one on your income.
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Hello again, smoothy:
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Individual responsibility is also not having six kids if you can only support one on your income.
Killing a fetus is murder...
Don't believe me... assault a pregnant woman... and see how you get charged if she loses the baby.
We'll work out something for him. His grandmother left money for him and his brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
We had our usual homeless crowd at the library every day. Some were medicated, and others were not. All were well behaved (except for the woman who would strip naked in the ladies washroom to sponge bathe). Some went to shelters at night (where your stuff could get stolen), and others hung out at all-night fast-food places. As long as they ordered something and behaved, they could sit there and even nod off. Most had no families, or at least families who wanted nothing to do with them. I remember only one who got any government assistance (he had to somehow get to an office to pick up his check, had no residence to send it to). The rest depended on handouts.Quote:
In many places MOST of the people living on the streets fit the mentally ill description...
If they have family willing and able to care for them... great... but what happens if they don't... there are no institutions any more unless they are proven to be a danger, and that's usually AFTER something happens... so they end up on the streets where it does nobody any good.
Still playing that merit-less nonsense I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Well, I'm bored, and he IS an easy target, after all.Quote:
Still playing that merit-less nonsense I see.
Excon
Kalifornia had problems with its exchanges - just like everyone else. It's just all those darn people so excited to sign up their servers couldn't handle the traffic you know.
5 million - 645,000, numbers are difficult things.Quote:
California exchange overstated its Web traffic for Obamacare launch
California's health insurance exchange vastly overstated the number of online hits it received Tuesday during the rollout of Obamacare.
State officials said the Covered California website got 645,000 hits during the first day of enrollment, far fewer than the 5 million it reported Tuesday.
The state exchange had cited the 5 million figure as a sign of strong consumer interest and a major reason people had so much difficulty using its $313-million online enrollment system.
Numbers are difficult aren't they. Well we know you guys don't have the numbers to repeal, or stop the ACA. And if the full house voted, you probably don't have the votes to keep the government shut down.
I'm going to admit that I didn't go back and read it all, but this one just made my chin drop. I think I broke it and will need to go to the ER.Quote:
How many welfare people have six kids, or even kids at all?
Let's see, without violating HIPAA... I know of one gal who is on welfare and she has 9 children by 5 different men. Another who is mentally disabled currently has 4. During her last labor her Aunt was talking with other family members about who they could get to father her next child so that they could get another check. Since the mother is disabled and gets a disability check, so does that child. Multiply that check by how many children she has. Don't forget to increase the value of the monthly food stamps.
Another comes to the hospital about 45 minutes after each shift change at least 5 times a week, sometimes 2 or 3 times in a 24-hour period. Usually by ambulance with an entourage of about 20 people following in their own vehicles. Typically it's because she got into a fight with the father of her baby and wants the attention.
Who pays those bills? We do, of course. If these people had to pay for the ambulance or, at minimum, a co-pay of, say, $5 - $20 per visit, then we would see less of them.
Another from the ER is 16 and has visited us 120 times this year alone. Yes, I said 120 times and it's only October 3. She claims to have seizures, yet none are documented. EEG (Electroencephalographs are negative for seizure disorder, CT scans are negative) and her visit always occurs during, or after, an argument with her mother.
I could go on and on and on. The guy with the Hep C who get's blood transfusions in the ER because he refuses to quit drinking and has no primary care physician. Oh, speaking of PCP's. Do you have a clue how many PCP's have stopped admitting to hospitals and are now giving their patients over to hospitalists? Not a promising trend.
Now, if we held these people accountable, maybe we would see a decrease in hospitalizations, whether it be inpatient, observation, or labor and delivery. The problem with the system is that we ALLOW this to happen without any consequences.
Now I will go over and read back.
I know this because I live it. I see it every time I go to work. Read my post above.Quote:
How do you know this? Where do these people live?
Where do they live? Usually in the urban settings. Inner cities, but even in rural towns like mine. Just delivered a woman's 17th child, she never worked a day in her life and her husband had "meth mouth."
Now that one just pi$$ed me off to no end. My father was mentally ill and took 25 pills a day, but lived a stable life. He even had electric shock therapy some 25+ years before he died. Why should he be in an "institution?" He wasn't a blithering idiot who shat his pants to get attention. He was a depressed person caused by a childhood of mental, emotional and physical abuse.Quote:
If they are mentally ill... why are they not in an institution?
My brother-in-law is mentally challenged. He's 53 years old, has the memory of an elephant but will argue with my 11 year old. Should he be institutionalized? We aren't living in the dark ages, Smoothy.
The Obamacare national hotline number is 1-800-318-2596. Leave out the 1 which has no letter value and this is what you get.
1-800-3(F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O).
Back to institutions. There are few state run institutions these days. Most are for-profit only. They will not accept people who do not have private insurance and they will not accept people who have medical illnesses along with mental illness. If you are medically unstable they will not accept you. If you don't have private insurance, they will not accept you. Co-morbidity is not cohesive with mental illness these days.Quote:
why are they not in an institution?
Did I miss it or did anyone bring up the 28th Amendment to the Constitution?
J-9 are you talking about the proposed one that says Congress can't exempt the members of the Federal government from the laws they pass ? Sign me up.
You may want to read Mark Levin's new book... 'The Liberty Amendments ' . He proposes many such amendments to restore the nation to a constitutional republic.
Hello J:
The 28th?? Nahhh.. Nobody brought it up. What does it say, if anything?
excon
Gimme a break here. Been up over 24 hours, but this is what I found.
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"Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators and Representatives; and, Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators and Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States".
Hello J:
Well, it AIN'T an amendment, but if it was, I'd vote for it.
excon
Hello again, Steve:
If they'd do that, they'd put death panels in there...Quote:
1-800-3(F) 8(U) 2(C) 5(K) 9(Y) 6(O).
You're silly.
Excon
I've got it on order for Hubby's birthday. I've never been into politics until my hours at work went from 48 per week to 24 and I am the sole provider in a household of 4 paying for a college tuition for 1.Quote:
You may want to read Mark Levin's new book
Not only are my hours decreasing, but the cost of my benefits are increasing. I was breaking even, last year.
Looking back it is a PROPOSED amendment. It should be an amendment. The adage comes into play... "What is good for the goose is good for the gander." If it's not good enough for the house, senate, president, etc. it's not good enough for the common person.Quote:
Well, it AIN'T an amendment, but if it was, I'd vote for it.
It's true, I'm just the messenger.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Single payer for all regardless of who. Sounds unanimous to me.
I have a question. I don't want sources quoted, if possible.
With these cutbacks, if you or a loved one were hospitalized, how would you expect the care given to them. Now, remember that we are being cut back, as is the government. I am given 7 patients to care for versus the 4 patients before. I can't answer the call lights as quickly, nor can I give the medications as directed. I am over worked and underpaid.
Would you complain? If so, to whom?
If your loved one died because I was expected to care for more patients than I am capable of, would you blame me or would you blame the system? Would you sue? Would you make me lose my license because I am conforming to the new system?
I reiterate that those of you outside of the medical community expect more than what we are capable of under the ACA. We are going to see a drop in the applications of medical students. Our nursing is already saturated. Vanderbilt has just let go of 1,000 necessary personnel.
Rather than seeing a higher number of health benefits, as a nurse, I see a higher number of medical malpractice cases.
I'm not saying that the ACA is wrong, per se, I'm seeing that it hasn't been tried out. There are positives to it, but there are negatives as well. Why not give certain states the option to try it out and see how well it works? Tweek it where it is needed. Give the general population a voice as to how it works and how it doesn't. This would take time, but it would be well worth it.
The ACA was modeled after the successful experiments of the states, Massachuessetts, and the other ones who had exchange programs of their own, some very good and have transitioned easily so far, and some bad ones that will get kicked to the curb. Every state has a guideline to build on and tweak.
I also think we recognize that more trained bodies are needed, but there are also millions of unemployed. And yes it will take time, that's a given and it's unreasonable to expect instant success. You are right, the public will indeed judge the results of THIS program in due time, and tweak as necessary.
If you answer to the boss as an individual, he fires you if you cannot perform his instruction, dumb or unreasonable as you think they are, but as a collective group that sticks together, you have a lot more leverage. No nurses union?Quote:
Would you complain? If so, to whom?
Speaking as someone who is a consumer of Healthcare... I don't want someone that couldn't get a real job anywhere else... playing doctor... nurse... or anything else.
Not everyone has the mindset.. intelligence or the aptitude to be working in the medical field. Heck... not even all the Doctors that actually manage to graduate from medical school should be practicing.
You just can't make this s**t up... Does anyone actually THINK in the Democrat party?
http://dailycaller.com/2013/10/03/ne...ional-hotline/
Yes you guys CAN make this crap up. I've seen you do it many times and have to admit you are damn good at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Really... try calling it then... it really does go there. A Coworker just tried it and that IS where it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
That means an Obama administration person did it... not some Republican...
Did you know 'smoothy' is an anagram of 'homo sty'?
Amazing where your mind goes do you know an anagram of your name includes the word nerd
Ever notice that "Need Karma" literally means you want something bad to happen to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Or something good.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Obamacare quote of the day, "I was laughing at Boehner -- until the mail came today."
Ya think? Apparently forcing someone to cough up an extra 10 grand every year is no big deal to all those wealthy libs. So much for enjoying the fruits of one's labor in America.Quote:
But people with no pre-existing conditions like Vinson, a 60-year-old retired teacher, and Waschura, a 52-year-old self-employed engineer, are making up the difference.
"I was laughing at Boehner -- until the mail came today,"
"I really don't like the Republican tactics, but at least now I can understand why they are so pissed about this. When you take $10,000 out of my family's pocket each year, that's otherwise disposable income or retirement savings that will not be going into our local economy[/B]."
There has never existed a more compelling reason to work off the books than there is now.
I hear Maryland managed to sign up 326 people so far, woo hoo! I wonder though, are they really signed up?
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Insurers Getting Faulty Data From U.S. Health Exchanges
Insurers are getting faulty and incomplete data from the new U.S.-run health exchange, which may mean some Americans won’t be covered even after they sign up for an insurance plan.
While it’s not clear how widespread the problem is, the reports from industry consultants are the first hint that the technical troubles faced by consumers trying to enroll in health plans under the Affordable Care Act may also be hitting the insurers. The companies are receiving electronic files that can’t open or have so much missing information on new enrollees they’re unusable, the consultants said.
Some insurers have been forced to fix entries by hand, said Bob Laszewski, an insurance-industry consultant based in Arlington, Virginia.
“If we don’t see substantial improvement by the end of this week, then I would throw up the yellow flag,” said Dan Schuyler, a consultant advising states and insurers on the exchanges. “If we don’t see it in the next two to three weeks, it’s time for red flags. The concern is some people could get to Jan. 1, and not have coverage.”
Since the exchanges opened on Oct. 1, consumers have struggled to access the online marketplaces, which have been overwhelmed by millions of visitors.
While capacity was added this past weekend to a system meant to serve people in 36 states, the federal website continued yesterday to deliver error messages to potential customers trying to create accounts and shop for health plans.
State Exchanges
At the same time, most of the 14 state exchanges yesterday reported performing with fewer troubles.
Maybe they should hire more people from Amazon. Maybe the insurance companies will need more techs. Maybe the states need more techs.
Some states seem better than others working their glitches out.
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT: Program offers six-month enrollment | Amarillo Globe-News
That's one way to run up costs and prices even higher than they already are... a few hundred thousand more people to pay.
At what point woud there be fewer people NOT working for Obamacare than actually are?
They already spent a fortune of our tax money to program this dog already . But by all appearance the programing of the software is fundamentally flawed.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
HHS thinks shutting it down on weekends is all they need to fix it... lol
Analysis: IT experts question architecture of Obamacare website | ReutersQuote:
For instance, when a user tries to create an account on HealthCare.gov, which serves insurance exchanges in 36 states, it prompts the computer to load an unusually large amount of files and software, overwhelming the browser, experts said.
If they are right, then just bringing more servers online, as officials say they are doing, will not fix the site.
"Adding capacity sounds great until you realize that if you didn't design it right that won't help," said Bill Curtis, chief scientist at CAST, a software quality analysis firm, and director of the Consortium for IT Software Quality. "The architecture of the software may limit how much you can add on to it. I suspect they'll have to reconfigure a lot of it."
You never know until you try it.
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