Assad knows that... and is smiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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Assad knows that... and is smiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
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Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Well... you don't HAVE to side with Assad... but going against him is by action aiding the Islamic Knuckledraggers... who want to go after Israel too.
Hopefully by waiting it out far more of that scum will remove themselves from the human gene pool before what happens, happens.
And maybe at that time someone actually better than Assad will arise... because right now there are none.
Maybe you missed my closing line... call me undecided.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I thinks supporting the al Nusra Front (aka AQ ) is coddling the enemy... you ?
Blow up one enemy, retarget, reload blow up the enemy that's left.
Then get ready for the War Crime Proceedings... because nothing short of exxterminating all life within those borders will achieve the desired results. And even then.. it won't because other scum can easily move in...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Who will be left to run the country? A women's coalition? That might work.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And maybe we can install a government we like... you guys always approved that in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
This is as close to being asked if you would rather be burned at stake, drawn and quartered... or torn apart by wolves.
You get to pick the best one of those three. Then arguing about the merits of one over the other.
I'll volunteer -- have been president of a church group and was a department head at a public library. Am well educated. Have successfully worked with Muslims in the past. Am organized, fun to be with, and know how to make samosas and baklava.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Whoever's is left can do whatever the hell they want, as long as they know where the boundary line is, and what happens when they cross it.
I vote for WG if it comes down to it.
I don't think she wants to go over there any more than the rest of us do.
I met one guy from Syria once... a pompous pain in the rump... he had his diplomatic immunity stripped and deported over distribution of conterfiet US currency... no lost love for any of them from me.
Remember Bush's coalition of the willing, the one openly mocked by lefties everywhere? Well, according to Debbie Downer, Obama has his own COW, but who those "dozens" are is a secret I guess.
These newly converted hawks are not very convincing, and that is a problem. The entire situation has been mishandled, the message muddled, the case less than convincing and the objective totally unclear. Other than, it's slam dunk.Quote:
Democratic National Committee chairman Debbie Wasserman Schultz says there are “dozens” of nations supporting the United States’ intervention in Syria, but regrets she’s “not at liberty to say” which ones.
“There are dozens of countries who are going to stand with the United States, who will engage with us on military action and also that back us 100 percent,” Wasserman Schultz said on CNN last night. When pressed by host Wolf Blitzer as to which ones, the Florida congressman said some of that information was classified.
The host asked Wasserman Schultz if those countries pledged military or diplomatic support, and she responded that it was a combination of both. “The important thing is we need military and moral leadership here,” she said.
The Senate foreign Relations Committee is meeting now. The process is moving ahead slowly.
Baked goods would be the least of your concerns. Maybe if they carved out a safe haven for the Christian population... because the only thing preventing an ethnic cleansing of Christians and Kurds in Syria is Assad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
At the end of the movie 'Lawrence of Arabia', the Arab rebel fighters are wrapped up with internal, petty squabbles in Damascus as the great powers maneuver for the future of Syria. Nothing has changed .
It's even more obvious now that this whole affair is all about Obama as usual. He beat the war drums to cover for his ad-lib and did an about face on the go it alone strategy for more CYA, someone to blame if it goes bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Any surprise he won't come out and make his case himself?Quote:
According to Politico, “At the very least, Obama clearly wants lawmakers to co-own a decision that he can’t back away from after having declared last year that Assad would cross a ‘red line’ if he used chemical weapons against his own people.” And the Washington Post reports:
Obama’s proposal to invite Congress dominated the Friday discussion in the Oval Office. He had consulted almost no one about his idea. In the end, the president made clear he wanted Congress to share in the responsibility for what happens in Syria. As one aide put it, “We don’t want them to have their cake and eat it, too.”
Get it? The president of the United States is preparing in advance to shift the blame if his strike on Syria proves to be unpopular and ineffective. He’s furious about the box he’s placed himself in, he hates the ridicule he’s (rightly) incurring, but he doesn’t see any way out.
What he does see is a political (and geopolitical) disaster in the making. And so what is emerging is what comes most naturally to Mr. Obama: Blame shifting and blame sharing. Remember: the president doesn’t believe he needs congressional authorization to act. He’s ignored it before. He wants it now. For reasons of political survival. To put it another way: He wants the fingerprints of others on the failure in Syria.
Rarely has an American president joined so much cynicism with so much ineptitude.
Meanwhile, another blast from the past from that war monger Nancy Pelosi. Memories...
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Debate then vote. That's the way it works.
I understand, you want cover if it goes bad, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
With all the focus on Syria, maybe for once congress won't make fools of themselves when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling again next month. I was so sick of that nonsense, tanking the stock market for no reason.
Let's call it what it is shared responsibility, consensus, now there is a word you don't hear very often. He wants it so the republicans can't run away from the decision
The ones that vote NO, can squeal I told you so if it goes bad and point that out when they run for president. Obama did, it worked.
I can see why anyone would want to be president over there
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Libya, Egypt and Syria and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross."
The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country's military capability.
Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."
The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniforms and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels .
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Australia ,meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be alright, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is cancelled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the final escalation level.
-- John Cleese - British writer, actor and tall person.
A final thought Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC
Hilarious!!
Tom let us not leave out the biggest players hereQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
America which has gone from hand wringing to crying wolf and may escalate to defcon 1 which we think means I'm retreating to the bunker to contemplate my navel and think about the consequences of consensus
Meanwhile Russia denied the opportunity of veto, has opted for political lobbying and issuing warnings on missile launches, demonstrating that their missile defences really work
One last thought, we have found all crises can be resolved by a few friendly beers sunk at a barbie, so for the sake of the Syrians no pork and prawns and come on over and we will even serve orange juice
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Originally Posted by tomder55
That's freakin great... good thing I didn't have a drink in had to spew when I broke out laughing.
Yes there are some real comedians around
Got to love Cleese. I have to watch Fawlty Towers every now and again to get a fix.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Stuck in a time warp eh?
Classic comedy doesn't go out of style (he says while swiping the letters on his Galaxy Tab, wirelessly on the Internet).Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
His voice is one of the ones I downloaded on my GPS..
Nothing better to do? The US is going to war and nothing is going to stop it, a war led recovery
Even in war there is down time .
Obama is suffering from ED... and was showed up by Putin who is ten times the man he is... so he feels this need to kill some people to prove he is something he is not.
You know... a LOT like the North Korean Pillsbury Dough Boy.
Hello again, smoothy:
Or, he's going to punish a law breaking dictator.. On the law boards, you LOVE to see guilty people suffer... You cut 'em NO slack at all.Quote:
so he feels this need to kill some people to prove he is something he is not.
Why not here?
Excon
Really... how about we hold him, you and the rest of the democrat party personally liable for civilian deaths and everything else when Al Queada, Hezbolah, or Iran take over there?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Only a few Hundreds died in Syria from chemical weapons. as opposed to the 100,000+ many of whom were killed by the rebels... how about the numerous countries where far worse is happening and has been happening... like Sudan as just one example?
Hell more people than that die here every year from accidents with household cleaning supplies.
And I haven't seen any actual proof it really was Assad that ordered it... and more than enough reason to believe it was one of the rebels groups that did it... they have access to that stuff from government weapons Caches they have taken.
The emperor's audacity knows no bounds...
Obama: Red line on Syria chemical weapons is the world's, not his
Uh, wasn't it just yesterday I noted the intention to shift the blame to others? Yes, I believe it was. It's begun... what a pathetic piece of dirt.Quote:
"The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world's population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use, even when countries are engaged in war," he said at a joint news conference with Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt on the first day of a four-day trip that includes the G-20 summit in Russia.
"Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty," Obama continued. "Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation entitled the 'Syria Accountability Act' that some of the horrendous things that are happening on the ground there need to be answered for."
Sounding exasperated, Obama added: "That wasn't something I just kind of made up. I didn't pluck it out of thin air. There's a reason for it."
Obama prods international community to act
Asked about whether he was seeking to save face, Obama insisted that "my credibility is not on the line -- the international community's credibility is on the line."
OK the time for rhetoric is over, next week we will see the US government line up behind their president and we will be on the path to WWIII of is it WWIV, the lines are a little blurred these days, it seems many countries can fight in a war and it is not a world war, we can fight a war for more years than we care to remember and yet it is not a world war
The timing is impeccable . Congress should finish up it's debate and pass the war resolution some time Monday or Tuesday... Then it's bombs away... on 9-11 .
Yes you can celebrate 9/11 buy accidentally bombing al Qaeda, but Assard offers a bigger target. I haven't worked out yet where is the commercial advantage in attacking SyriaQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Call it 'no blood for natural gas ' .Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
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