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  • Oct 11, 2012, 05:41 AM
    paraclete
    So where has the other fellow been, he is almost invisable
  • Oct 11, 2012, 06:18 AM
    TUT317
    "Let me add to the mythical Democrat wars to create a siege mentality.. the war on Sesame Street..."

    Hi Steve,

    While you are with me on this one perhaps we could also point of the siege mentality created by the other side of politics as well.


    Tut
  • Oct 11, 2012, 06:19 AM
    tomder55
    He's been on the campaign trail . I can't help it if the compliant press only puts him in the news if they can take a shot at him ,or marginalize him with trivia about his workouts.

    Paul Ryan: All Pumped Up For His Closeup - LightBox
  • Oct 11, 2012, 06:34 AM
    NeedKarma
    We can always turn to Fox News for hard hitting, unbiased news:
    Search for paul ryan
  • Oct 11, 2012, 06:47 AM
    TUT317
    Hi NK,

    You means those on the other side of politics responsible for creating their version of the siege mentality?

    Tut
  • Oct 11, 2012, 06:50 AM
    NeedKarma
    Normally I'd answer "yes", but in the case of my post it shows that Ryan has been hiding as well, probably working on his highly-touted abs as we learn from Fox.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 07:34 AM
    speechlesstx
    Tut, I don't deny it on both sides. I believe I said something to the effect that the other side's 'wars', as in the "war on women" are mythical and intentionally deceptive, while he attack on the first amendment is real.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 11:20 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Tut, I don't deny it on both sides. I believe I said something to the effect that the other side's 'wars', as in the "war on women" are mythical and intentionally deceptive, while he attack on the first amendment is real.

    So the right wings ultra sound laws, personhood amendments, defining rape, taking away choices is NOT an attack on women? You mean defunding planned parenthood, including cancer screens to stop the 3% that goes to abortions isn't an attack on women? Then what is it?
  • Oct 11, 2012, 11:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    So the right wings ultra sound laws, personhood amendments, defining rape, taking away choices is NOT an attack on women?
    We've more than exhausted that discussion. The only one involved in this campaign with extreme views is the guy that refused to support a law protecting babies born alive after botched abortions.

    Quote:

    You mean defunding planned parenthood, including cancer screens to stop the 3% that goes to abortions isn't an attack on women? Then what is it?
    I would never give PP a penny, that's the most vile, disgusting, deceptive, underhanded, subversive organization in this country in my opinion. Besides, I thought that's what Obamacare was for.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 01:41 PM
    tomder55
    PP... "eugenics are us"
  • Oct 11, 2012, 02:06 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    PP... "eugenics are us"
    I know, you guys are just like China.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 02:22 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    PP... "eugenics are us"
    Only one dude in this race wouldn't support a ban on killing baby girls that survived an abortion. Obama's to the left of NARAL on that.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 02:41 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I know, you guys are just like China.

    No ; Margaret Sanger ,the patron Saint of the left 'reproductive rights ' movement was an unrepentant racist eugenicist .
  • Oct 11, 2012, 02:54 PM
    excon
    Hello tom:

    I don't know.. You like Ayn Rand... She was an atheist.. Can't atheist's write good stuff?

    excon
  • Oct 11, 2012, 03:09 PM
    tomder55
    I don't see the connection . Sanger set up an organization where her dream of culling the black population could be realized . Rand's vision of Objectivism is ultimately an atheist philosophy that's true . But beyond the philosophising ,she did not set up an institution to implement her phiolosphy . Yes it's true that I could never completely embrace Objectivism ,but I completely repudiate Sanger and her master race ideas. (have you seen the photos of her with Hitler ? )
    Here is the big difference . Rand believed in the worth of the individual .Sanger ? She thought culling the herd was good for the collective.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 03:35 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Sanger ? She thought culling the herd was good for the collective.

    I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves
  • Oct 11, 2012, 03:39 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves
    Haha, I never looked at it that way but it's true!
  • Oct 11, 2012, 03:46 PM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    So, it DOESN'T matter who they are... All that matters is that you BELIEVE them... If it was me, I wouldn't be throwing stones.

    excon
  • Oct 11, 2012, 04:41 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I really don't see those views as different to the republican philosophy of letting the poor look after themselves

    That would be true if the Republic phiolosophy was 'letting the poor look after themselves '. But that of course would not be the Republic philosophy ,or mine.
  • Oct 11, 2012, 10:01 PM
    talaniman
    Biden just took Ryan to school about fighting for people or fighting for profits and ideology.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 03:11 AM
    tomder55
    ?? You were watching a different debate. Biden reminded me of the old Weekend Update skits on SNL where Chevy Chase would make faces behind the back of the person he was sparring with. Biden looked like he had one too many Red Bull.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 04:58 AM
    paraclete
    I hear some think Romney is winning, it all comes down to the ballot box and how strongly the electorate feels, now I didn't want to give comfort to Tom and Speech who think this is the natural order of things asserting itsself, but guys consider this, either way you are screwed
  • Oct 12, 2012, 05:03 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ??? you were watching a different debate. Biden reminded me of the old Weekend Update skits on SNL where Chevy Chase would make faces behind the back of the person he was sparring with. Biden looked like he had one too many Red Bull.

    http://blog.jetwolf.com/wp-content/u.../snl-104_5.jpg
  • Oct 12, 2012, 05:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    Haha, Chevy looks like Ryan.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 05:33 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    If you're a right winger, Ryan won. If you're ALIVE, Biden won.

    excon
  • Oct 12, 2012, 05:55 AM
    paraclete
    If you live somewhere else no one won, we are all screwed
  • Oct 12, 2012, 06:34 AM
    tomder55
    RNC Web Ad: "Laughing at the Issues" (Official Version) - YouTube!
  • Oct 12, 2012, 06:43 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    What you wingers saw as laughing, we saw as incredulousness at the balls this young kid had.. I don't think we're going to make a video out of it, though...

    excon
  • Oct 12, 2012, 07:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Incredulity fixes nothing. Where was his plan?
  • Oct 12, 2012, 08:59 AM
    tomder55
    The kid ? Ryan came off looking like the mature statesman . Biden and the President offer one and only one plan... tax increases.
    I can't believe that some consider Biden Sec State material . Can you imagine his histrionics ,exaggerated facial expressions ,maniacal grin and uncontrolled laughing when going head to head with a foreign leader ?

    If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet.
    Proverbs 29:9
  • Oct 12, 2012, 09:16 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Can you imagine his histrionics ,exaggerated facial expressions ,maniacal grin and uncontrolled laughing when going head to head with a foreign leader ?

    No, only with a geeky overgrown teenager.
  • Oct 12, 2012, 10:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    No, only with a geeky overgrown teenager.
    I can picture Biden with the Mahdi Hatter, "well that's just malarkey and stuff."
  • Oct 12, 2012, 11:47 AM
    talaniman
    Ryans whole thing was stylish malarkey and fact checks will bear that out as it did with Romney's malarkey AND stuff!
  • Oct 16, 2012, 10:29 PM
    paraclete
    Well I would say Obama is winning now, that Romney is just plain bad mannered
  • Oct 17, 2012, 02:47 AM
    tomder55
    The President had a pulse last night so of course it will be spun as a Obama win.Bad mannered ? Go back and look at how often the President interupted Romney. The President took lessons from Biden.
  • Oct 17, 2012, 03:37 AM
    excon
    Hello:

    Two things stood out.. Romney GAVE Obama an opening for him to CLOSE with the 47%. Big, HUGE mistake...

    And, when Romney was ready to GET Obama on what he said the day after the attacks in Benghazi, he got GOT instead...

    Obama in a landslide.

    excon
  • Oct 17, 2012, 05:07 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    And, when Romney was ready to GET Obama on what he said the day after the attacks in Benghazi, he got GOT instead...
    with a hat tip from Candy Crowley who amazingly took sides . The transcript of his Rose Garden statement with the throwaway line about terrorism does not answer the question about a cover up for weeks after... including an appearance at the UN where he clung to a false narrative.
  • Oct 17, 2012, 05:26 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Quote:

    with a hat tip from Candy Crowley who amazingly took sides .
    Nahhh... Candy didn't do him in. The TRUTH did him in. Words matter. Your guy DIDN'T know what words Obama said. He should have - especially when he was going to use them as a GOTCHA... But, he got GOT instead... I LOVED it.. He got hoisted on his own petard, whatever that means..

    Bwa, ha ha ha.

    Excon
  • Oct 17, 2012, 05:40 AM
    paraclete
    That Romney doesn't know what terrorism is, I'd be terrified he might win if I were you
  • Oct 17, 2012, 05:43 AM
    excon
    Hello again, clete:

    Quote:

    I'd be terrified he might win
    I am.

    Excon

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