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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Maybe you should read what he actually said as opposed to what your right-wing blogs say that you think: http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcrip...2/ST033001.pdf

I did read what he said, changes nothing. He refused to support legislation that would provide care to a child that survived a live birth abortion. These babies were being left to die, sometimes just taken to a soiled utility room and left there. Has he changed his mind?

P.S. That site isn't just some "right-wing blog," Jill Stanek was a nurse in labor and delivery at the hospital where this was happening and testified along with the Illinois AG's office in support of the bill.

They get it wrong on many things as Ryan was for stimulis until he was against it, and he took the money while he was preaching how it didn't work.

Well it worked for him!! And the rest of the repubs who took the money. This is but another example of why repubs should NOT be making decision about the well being of others, let alone the direction of a nation.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again,

What is ALSO abundantly clear here, is that right wingers have NO idea how a woman's body works. I'll bet they were home schooled.

Republicans should be PREVENTED from EVER legislating issues on women's health.. Because when they do, they get it WRONG!!

excon

That's bullsh*t and you know it. And unlike you when one of our clowns says something ridiculous we'll call it what it is. You won't find many if any on our side defending his stupidity unlike the whole of the Democratic troops rushing out to deny Biden's racist remarks.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I did read what he said, changes nothing. He refused to support legislation that would provide care to a child that survived a live birth abortion.

Did you happen to understand why he voted "present" for that particular bill? I don't think you do. You'd rather yell out "infanticide!" and appeal to emotion instead of discussing facts.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

These babies were being left to die, sometimes just taken to a soiled utility room and left there.

This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

I especially noted "soiled."

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Originally Posted by talaniman

They get it wrong on many things as Ryan was for stimulis until he was against it, and he took the money while he was preaching how it didn't work.

Well it worked for him!!!! And the rest of the the repubs who took the money. This is but another example of why repubs should NOT be making decision about the well being of others, let alone the direction of a nation.

We've already acknowledged Ryan's previous support so what's your point?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

We've already acknowledged Ryan's previous support so what's your point?

That they are hypocrites who only look out for themselves.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Did you happen to understand why he voted "present" for that particular bill? I don't think you do. You'd rather yell out "infanticide!" and appeal to emotion instead of discussing facts. This is another appeal to emotion instead of facts. This is an obvious fabrication.

You really ought to know the facts before claiming "obvious fabrication."

From my link (apology accepted):

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I especially noted "soiled."

Because it was in the testimony. Duh.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You really ought to know the facts before claiming "obvious fabrication."

So that is the standard procedure? Any more cases like that?

If not was the doctor/hospital prosecuted?

Seems like a single isolated case that you are using to make people believe is normal practice.

You obviously did not read it.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

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Well sir, your first two questions were OBVIOUSLY answered in the testimony rendering your conclusion baseless. Like I said, you might want to brush up on the facts before speaking next time. Just trying to help you keep from looking like a fool, but if you enjoy that have at it.

So that's the documented procedure? Can you link to that instead of an anti-abortionist's factless testimony?

Factless testimony? Are you saying this nurse lied to her state legislature?

That never happens??

Both sides have called out Aikin... Romney before Obama. Just love the select feigned moral outrage of the Left over 'rape '. They never showed such outrage when Clintoon raped Juanita Broaddrick ;or groped and sexually assaulted Kathleen Willey . Aikin will be forced to drop out of the race over what he said. Clintoon survived what he did .

Glad to see you support "illegitimate" rape whatever that is.

I expect you could say this is part of the war on women
'Offensive and indefensible': candidate may step down after 'legitimate rape' claims

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Glad to see you support "illegitimate" rape whatever that is.

Nothing I wrote leads to that conclusion.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

That never happens???

That's a non-answer.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That's a non-answer.

This place is full of non-answers, you could spend your day making that comment. LOL!

Hah:

Republicans Condemn Akin's Comments As Blemish On Party's Otherwise Spotless Women's Rights Record | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Both sides have called out Aikin ...Romney before Obama. Just love the select feigned moral outrage of the Left over 'rape '.

Hello again, tom:

I don't know about the "left's" feigned outrage... At least they didn't put anything in the Democratic PLATFORM about it...

You guys, however, are feigning outage over what Aikin SAID, but your REPUBLICAN PLATFORM supports the SAME POLICY Aikin (and RYAN) supports. That is NO abortion exception for rape or incest...

Until yesterday, that is. BOTH Romney and Ryan came out and flip flopped.. Has their position tied them up in knots?? Will their flip flop COST the support of the Tea Party??

excon

Hello, again:

Yes, I have more to say..

I just wish I had known about this anti-baby juice women could squirt. By the way. Why didn't Rush Limprod suggest that Sandra Fluke use her squirter, instead of leeching on the taxpayer... Squirters are free, aren't they?

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

This place is full of non-answers, you could spend your day making that comment. LOL!

I asked you if you thought she lied, not if it ever happens.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello, again:

Yes, I have more to say..

I just wish I had known about this anti-baby juice women could squirt. By the way. Why didn't Rush Limprod suggest that Sandra Fluke use her squirter, instead of leeching on the taxpayer... Squirters are free, aren't they?

excon

We've pretty much all roundly condemned his stupidity and asked him to step aside. You guys are stuck with Biden, the gaffe-tastic gift that keeps on giving.

They celebrate Clintoon ; a serial abuser of women.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

They celebrate Clintoon ; a serial abuser of women.

Who is "they"?

Oh ;perhaps 'they' are the same people who ask me to defend 'my side' or 'you guys'. .

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Originally Posted by tomder55

oh ;perhaps 'they' are the same people who ask me to defend 'my side' or 'you guys'. .

Ok, so where are they celebrating Clinton's alleged abuse of women?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Ok, so where are they celebrating Clinton's alleged abuse of women?

There is nothing 'alleged ' .He's a serial abuser . Here is where they are honoring him.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...ry?id=16886774

Contrast that with
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ip-convention/

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

We've pretty much all roundly condemned his stupidity and asked him to step aside. You guys are stuck with Biden,

Hello again, Steve:

We?? As in the small minority of the party YOU control?? Or is it the Tea Party we, who's backing him up 100%??

It looks like you're STUCK with Akin too, and I couldn't be more thrilled.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

We??? As in the small minority of the party YOU control??? Or is it the Tea Party we, who's backing him up 100%???

You don't keep up with the news much do you?

RNC Chair to Akin: ‘Step Aside’

Tea Party Express calls on Akin to step down

Tea Party's Kremer: Akin should 'step aside'

Well lets see... technically it was the Dem cross over vote that selected Akin in the 1st place. McCaskill ran unopposed for the Dems in Missouri ;an open primary state . The Republics had their vote split between 3 major and other minor candidates .
McCaskill made it clear she preferred running against Akin ;and the Dem crossover vote made that happen.
And the real Tea party candidate in the race was Sarah Steelman.
Leaders All Across Missouri and America are Supporting Sarah Steelman for U.S. Senate! | Sarah Steelman

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

You don't keep up with the news much do you?

Hello again, Steve:

Is it ME, or you?

Huckabee to Akin - STAY IN..

Pat Robertson to Akin - STAY IN...

Family Research Council to Akin - STAY IN..

Tea Party to Akin - STAY IN..

Akin to the world - I'M STAYING IN!

Look... The GOP didn't support his candidacy so, he has NO allegiance to them... The Tea Party reigns...

excon

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Originally Posted by tomder55

There is nothing 'alleged ' .He's a serial abuser . Here is where they are honoring him.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/...ry?id=16886774

contrast that with
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ip-convention/

Only a righty would compare the only president to ever balance a budget in history with a loony tune whose only claim to fame is redefining rape, based on allegations and innuendo.

Clinton survived his battles, and prospered,will Akin? Sure he will because he just said what the right believes, but he said it in public. That was his only mistake. As we speak repubs are considering putting no exceptions for abortion as part of their convention platform.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Is it ME, or you?

Huckabee to Akin - STAY IN..

Pat Robertson to Akin - STAY IN...

Family Research Council to Akin - STAY IN..

Tea Party to Akin - STAY IN..

Akin to the world - I'M STAYING IN!!

Look... The GOP didn't support his candidacy so, he has NO allegiance to them... The Tea Party reigns...

excon

So those Tea Party people in the videos in the links I gave you are only pretending they want Akin to go away? Dude, you been smokin' way too much today.

Some want him out, some want him in. Nobody has the power to make him leave, and he said he ain't going. So wants got nothing to do with it, but its fun watching you guys run around.

Better than the Kardasians any way.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Some want him out, some want him in. Nobody has the power to make him leave, and he said he ain't going. So wants got nothing to do with it, but its fun watching you guys run around.

Better than the Kardasians any way.

No sir it's a distinct difference between left and right, we police our own and hold them accountable while your side celebrates their perverts, racists, weirdos and crooks.