You said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Ah, the insult again. Jesus is watching.Quote:
And the lunacy marches on. If you were more familiar with your Bible, you would be embarrassed at having made that post.
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You said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Ah, the insult again. Jesus is watching.Quote:
And the lunacy marches on. If you were more familiar with your Bible, you would be embarrassed at having made that post.
Oh. So you DO approve of abortion at 37 weeks. Got it. So how should the doctor kill the baby prior to delivering a dead infant? Note: You will not answer that question. That is a given.
Your post deserved insulting. It was ridiculous.
If the mother's life is in grave danger and her death would result, the doctor has the means to end the pregnancy as gently as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That was not the scenario and you know it. You're being evasive again. I'll just drop it since you are not going to be honest about it.Quote:
If the mother's life is in grave danger and her death would result, the doctor has the means to end the pregnancy as gently as possible.
At any rate, it is never necessary to have an abortion at 37 weeks to save the life of the mother. One way or the other, the baby must be delivered, so an abortion does nothing to spare the mother that ordeal. And if you think a doctor has means to end the pregnancy "gently", then you have no knowledge at all of late term abortions. I would really challenge you to look at how a dilation and evacuation is performed, or a saline abortion, or partial birth abortions. You can read about it here. I doubt that you will. Ignorance is bliss. And that is not meant in a mean fashion. I just know your approach.
https://lozierinstitute.org/the-real...on-procedures/
Have you ever heard of c-sections?
The techniques you described are not done when the fetus is nearly full term.
Yes.Quote:
Have you ever heard of c-sections?
I'm sorry, but you just don't know what you are talking about. Partial birth abortions are done late term. The same is true of saline abortions.Quote:
The techniques you described are not done when the fetus is nearly full term.
But if you are so sure of your statement, then tell us what technique is used?
Didn't read the article, did you?
That dated, right-wing, anti-abortion article?
The one you were afraid to read, lest you find the truth to be inconvenient.
Most people are sensible enough to know that an abortion at 37 weeks would be a grotesque breach of morality. But they can't explain WHY they believe that. You are evidently in that group. So we ask them questions to help them explore their own standards. How about 30 weeks? How about 24? If "yes" for 24 but "no" for 30, then why? What difference justifies that distinction? The idea is to get them to assess their own position. Getting people to think benefits the pro-life position, but that won't work unless a person has sufficient courage to do it. I haven't observed that you do. You just seem to prefer living in a make-believe world where abortions are "gentle" and usually involve a scenario along the lines of a 15 year old rape victim who has become pregnant. It's much easier to live with that belief than to discover that abortions are ugly, violent procedures usually chosen by a woman who simply does not want the baby. You ask questions such as, "Is the fetus a human life," but then choose not to explore your own question, or any other question you find threatening. I think that's tragic. So we end up having these pointless discussions that never arrive at any destination since you can't defend your position and yet don't want to honestly examine any others.
Don't say that meanly. It's my view of the situation.
very funny . That nonsense about Eve !! next up Jesus had no male chromosomes because he was birthed from a virgin .
Classic!!Quote:
next up Jesus had no male chromosomes because he was birthed from a virgin .
You therefore deny God was Jesus' father.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
God, a Spirit, has chromosomes?
Does God have a gender ? I don't want to get into that whole pronoun thingy
(You opened the door, tomder.)Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
What gender pronoun do the Christian Creeds and the Bible use? Which do you use? You call God IT, don't you!!! Hmm, now I can't stop thinking about Pennywise, the Dancing Clown.)
God is universally referred to in the masculine in the Bible other than a very occasional use of "us" or "our" as in Genesis 1:26. "Let US make man in OUR image..."
Press Briefing by Press Secretary Jen Psaki, May 5, 2022 | The White HouseQuote:
MR. JENSEN: Jen, can I ask a question? A Catholic church was just vandalized with pro-abortion slogans in Colorado. It just happened recently. Is the White House aware of that, first of all?
MS. PSAKI: I’ve not seen that report. Obviously, we don’t condone vandalism. We condone peaceful protest, and that’s something certainly we’re encouraging with everybody who feels passionate —
MR. JENSEN: What would you say to those vandals going after — targeting Catholic churches, especially when it involves Roe? That’s what they’re basically focusing on.
MS. PSAKI: Again, we don’t condone vandalism. We condone peaceful protest.
I think it’s important to note that 60 percent or 70 percent, depending on the poll you look at, of the American people do not want Roe to be overturned.
I’m going to move on. Go ahead.
MR. JENSEN: Will the President respect the High Court’s final decision on Roe (inaudible)?
MS. PSAKI: I think we’re moving on. Go ahead.
Q Jen —
MR. JENSEN: This is a follow-up question. That’s all. Just like everyone else gets.
(SEVERAL MINUTES LATER)
MR. JENSEN: Quick follow-up. Is anyone in the administration —
Q Thank you, Jen.
MS. PSAKI: Okay, last — last one. Go ahead.
MR. JENSEN: — looking out for the unborn child?
MS. PSAKI: Sir — sir —
MR. JENSEN: Is anyone in the administration looking out for the unborn child?
MS. PSAKI: I think I’ve taken two questions from you —
Q No, no, no.
MS. PSAKI: — so I’m going to take a question over here. Go ahead.
Q Thank you, Jen.
MR. JENSEN: When does the President believe life begins?
Thank you
We agree with that, but it needs to be done on a state level. Of course if we started becoming a marriage-honoring culture, then...
Why aren't we?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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