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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You don't "throw out" proof passages because you don't have any. Well, you have been presented with the truth. The rest is up to you.

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I've spent my life accumulating and memorizing proof passages. They aren't worth the paper they're printed on if I just regurgitate them.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Why am I not surprised? Some things are utterly predictable.

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it is you who are utterly predictable

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it is you who are utterly predictable

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I certainly hope so. That would make me consistent.

consistently annoying perhaps

You get annoyed because I don't buy all the wild tales you try to spread here. So who's problem is that?

wild tales? anything I say is based on fact, you may not like it but thems the breaks. You need to get some perspective the world is not what you would like it to be

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anything I say is based on fact

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Hardly, but we'll start tracking that anew. I imagine another wild tale such as you actually thinking you knew more about economics than Trump because you ran a few smallish companies comes to mind immediately. But we'll just track from here on out. It won't take long.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Hardly, but we'll start tracking that anew. I imagine another wild tale such as you actually thinking you knew more about economics than Trump because you ran a few smallish companies comes to mind immediately. But we'll just track from here on out. It won't take long.

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In my studies I did several subjects in economics so I am well versed in the concepts of both micro and macro economics and my post graduate studies took me into business systems and government. My qualifications are the equivalent of a MBA so I am well qualified to comment on Trump's performance and theories. What you don't know about me is a great deal and the companies I was involved it over my career were not just small companies

I don't discredit any of that. You know more than Trump? I very seriously doubt that.

Trump has a degree in economics I, as I said have the equivalent of an MBA so we both know similar things and we are both "skilled" in business administration. He had the advantage of millions available to him to set him up, I on the other hand started with absolutely nothing. Some of his economic policies were not soundly based such as using tariffs as sanctions

An MBA is a masters degree, Trump's degree is a batchelor's degree, I also hold two fellowships related to business administration. I do this to pass the time

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Trump has a degree in economics I, as I said have the equivalent of an MBA so we both know similar things and we are both "skilled" in business administration. He had the advantage of millions available to him to set him up, I on the other hand started with absolutely nothing. Some of his economic policies were not soundly based such as using tariffs as sanctions

An MBA is a masters degree, Trump's degree is a batchelor's degree, I also hold two fellowships related to business administration. I do this to pass the time

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Jumping in here and seeing your post on Trump, your putting in quotes his "skill" probably reflects the truth. His starting advantage of about 400 million, being repeatedly bailed out by his father, and inheriting the father's business does not speak well for his business acumen. It's hard to credit his economic degree since he doesn't understand the basic principles of a tariff - something a fifth grader could be taught. His "deal" making has been a disaster - rejected by N Korea and threatening the allies are hardly the marks of a skilled dealmaker. Inheriting a recovering economy begun by Obama is no credit to Trump.

The man is a disaster in so many ways, and several of those ways will shortly be exposed for all the world to see. Your qualifications are far greater than anything Trump ever achieved on his own.

(Behind me, I 'm hearing the amazing news from Georgia - the Democrats now ahead in one race and tied in the other).

What's so amazing, people like to be on the winning side, not the whingeing side, this is a race being run after the event, the dynamics will be different

What's amazing is the turnout that will put the dems in control of the senate and regulate the "grim reaper" to a minority leader without the power to control the legislative agenda as he has done for so many years. Biden gets his cabinet and judges, and agenda if the dems can consolidate.

The swamp has been cleared of the biggest critter, and the toilet of incompetence has a good chance to be flushed.

PS. I personally think you are more capable than the dufus to run a business openly and HONESTLY, Clete, but getting elected to run government maybe not.

I have no aspiration to lead government, Tal, never was a public speaker, but I have been an innovator and early adopter of technology. As an analyst I can see things that others might miss. No it seems Trump didn't make the difference that was needed in Georgia which must be suffering from electoral fatigue by now

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An MBA is a masters degree, Trump's degree is a batchelor's degree, I also hold two fellowships related to business administration. I do this to pass the time

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You kind of failed to mention that he has led businesses a couple of hundred times larger than anything you have led. Now I don't discount your skills, abilities, or accomplishments. But for you to say you knew more about economics than him was really out there.

No academics would disagree

Sure they wouldn’t. I do think they would agree that having the "equivalent of an MBA" is not the same thing as actually having earned an MBA.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You kind of failed to mention that he has led businesses a couple of hundred times larger than anything you have led.

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And he --tRump -- did a terrific job of destroying them.

I'd go to 'Clete with my econ questions before I'd ask tRump.

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Sure they wouldn’t. I do think they would agree that having the "equivalent of an MBA" is not the same thing as actually having earned an MBA.

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I have spent many of my years in study, Jl, far more than Trump, who "earned" an undergraduate degree, the only thing that didn't happen was the confiring of the degree because I took a different path also no organisation that I led or administered in ever filed for bankruptcy, they were all successful, can you say the same for Trump?

Wonder how many of those dufus companies are shell companies for hiding shady deals and money laundering? Not so far fetched since he cheated the government and got booted from rent subsidies, his charities disbanded and he was banned from any future charity activity, and his University endeavors had to pay back the students he cheated.

I doubt Clete has come close to achieving such dishonesty, and no doubt who I would trust with a few bucks.