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You're a NUT!

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You think his docs lied. I think they are telling the truth. You believe in conspiracies such as the editing of tapes to cover up a cough. I think that's a stretch. You think you know how his docs treated him. I kind of doubt that.

No, I don't think his doctors lied. They hedged: he "may not entirely be out of the woods". And watch the videos, please. More than once. You can see his chest move and head jerk with the cough, and you can see him trying to catch his breath once he reached the balcony.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

When you compare a million dollar income with a 50K income, the million dollar guy is going to come off looking better. Is that surprising?

Of course it's not surprising that the million dollar guy is going to come off looking better. That's the issue – how the the tax system favors the rich. You are inadvertently supporting our thesis. Thank you

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Turns out the rich guy bore a MUCH larger share of the burden,

In a progressive tax system, the richer always have a larger tax liability than the poorer. That's the nature of a progressive tax system. Our point is that, even though the rich pay more taxes, the work of the poor supports the rich getting those big bucks. That's why, when you keep harping on the tax paid by the rich, we know you are missing the point being made.

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Want to tax cap gains? Fine with me.

I'm glad you agree with treating capital gains with the same rate as earned income. How about taxing corporations' off shore profits at least as much as we tax their US profits.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

No, I don't think his doctors lied. They hedged: he "may not entirely be out of the woods". And watch the videos, please. More than once. You can see his chest move and head jerk with the cough, and you can see him trying to catch his breath once he reached the balcony.

The doctor (an osteopath!!!) also said he didn't tell the truth (or omitted the truth - can't remember) because he wanted to keep everything "positive". It was an important stat about lung test results. Also he skated on Trump's blood oxygen percentage. I'm sure Trump is telling them what to say and what to avoid. Now that I've read two books about Trump by people who knew him intimately, nothing Trump does would surprise me. .

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In a progressive tax system, the richer always have a larger tax liability than the poorer.

Finally. The truth has come forth! Thank you so much! It is not only larger, it is proportionally much larger as in the example we looked at. 20X more income, but 50X more tax paid.

The rich are better off than the not-rich, but no because of tax policies. It is because THEY ARE RICH.

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I'm glad you agree with treating capital gains with the same rate as earned income. How about taxing corporations' off shore profits at least as much as we tax their US profits.

I'm open to considering a lot of things as long as we have a balanced budget.

The docs said he had no symptoms when discharged. That's the statement we are discussing. Either they lied or they didn't. WG is trying to camp out somewhere in the middle.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

The docs said he had no symptoms when discharged. That's the statement we are discussing. Either they lied or they didn't. WG is trying to camp out somewhere in the middle.

I'm not. Trump's doctors are/were.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

I'm not. Trump's doctors are/were.

Why won't the doctors reveal when Trump last tested negative? They are playing Trump's game.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Finally. The truth has come forth! Thank you so much

You're welcome, but that was a given from day one. Nobody ever denied that.

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It is not only larger, it is proportionally much larger

As it should be - but not large enough. Trump dropped the rate to accommodate himself while promising a $4000 reduction for the middle class and a big jump in growth. His promises never came to be.

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The rich are better off than the not-rich, but no because of tax policies. It is because THEY ARE RICH.

Tax policies play a big part. The real problem is the redistribution of wealth from the bottom to the top. To say the rich are rich because they are rich deserves no comment.

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The docs said he had no symptoms when discharged. That's the statement we are discussing. Either they lied or they didn't.

That's a half-truth and the doctor knows it. They say it like it's all that needs to be said. There's much more.

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WG is trying to camp out somewhere in the middle.

WG is right on target. She keyed on asymptomatic which is a huge problem with COVID.

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Nobody ever denied that.

Sure they didn't.

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As it should be - but not large enough

We can argue how large it should be. I'm just glad we are no longer discussing whether or not it exists.

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To say the rich are rich because they are rich deserves no comment.

If anyone had said that, you would be right. Since it hasn't been said, then...

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That's a half-truth and the doctor knows it

So now you know what the docs know? Wow. Amazing. And half-truths are also known as lies.

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She keyed on asymptomatic

No, she didn't. She keyed in on the docs saying he had no symptoms when, according to her, he did. Remember the great, hidden cough conspiracy she brought up? You think the whole thing is tied to either UFOs or the Kennedy assassination?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

You think the whole thing is tied to either UFOs or the Kennedy assassination?

What I think is that you're an a**hole. I've been too good to you.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

No, she didn't. She keyed in on the docs saying he had no symptoms when, according to her, he did. Remember the great, hidden cough conspiracy she brought up?

The. Doctor. Said. He. "may not entirely be out of the woods.

Watch the videos!!! (Put on your glasses first!) The Republicans poorly edited out the coughing.

My husband had a cardio appointment this afternoon. His doctor remarked that people with diabetes, heart problems, lung problems, and kidney problems are fair game for covid, but it can affect anyone. AND too often they are without obvious symptoms even when they have tested positive.

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What I think is that you're an a**hole.

Well, so much for you dropping the name-calling, and you are plainly out of ideas. It's the number one indicator. You run out of ideas so you start the name-calling. WG is nicer, but she just disappears for a while.

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The. Doctor. Said. He. "may not entirely be out of the woods."

The same doctor who said he was symptom free? Why do you believe one statement but not the other? Oh well. Lying doctors and conspiracies. All I know is he is said to be symptom free. Why on earth that has to be debated endlessly is beyond me.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

WG is nicer, but she just disappears for a while.

Only when I get tired of being put down or if I have no interest in current threads.

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The same doctor who said he was symptom free?

Yes, you can be symptom free but not yet "out of the woods," as Dr. Conley said and as my husband's cardio doctor told him today. The next seven or so days of Trump's life will solve that mystery.

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Yes, you can be symptom free but not yet "out of the woods".

Sounds reasonable to me.

Thankfully you are courteous enough not to call dumb names. I will tell you, that gets old. It is such a low-class, non-thinking approach. I do appreciate you not doing it.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

Thankfully you are courteous enough not to call dumb names. I will tell you, that gets old. It is such a low-class, non-thinking approach. I do appreciate you not doing it.

Are you taking prednisone?

What?

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

What?

You're suddenly so charming and happy and even fun!

I have not ALWAYS been charming, happy, and fun??? 8D

Perhaps I should try that prednisone.

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Originally Posted by jlisenbe

I have not ALWAYS been charming, happy, and fun??? 8D

Um, no.

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Perhaps I should try that prednisone.

I have a month's supply. What's your address? :-D

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Um, no.

OK. Just for that, no more Mr. Nice Guy!! 8D