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The acceptance of the idea that we can have more things from the feds and not have to worry about paying for them is a huge problem and goes right along with your "dumbing down" theory. The American people have completely accepted this, so both repubs and dems are completely invested in it. When the day of reckoning comes rolling around, it's going to be a shock to a lot of folks.
jlisenbe: What you said is unarguable.....and it transcends all party or political affiliations. This is the one subject that all of us on this forum are probably together on and the same page....we can't keep doing the stupid stuff and expecting it to work because it NEVER worked in the first place. Education is the key component: We don't have to be all PhDs but we need to stop accepting everything that is "fed" to us by the MEDIA and others as being gospel: We should CHALLENGE our leadership and see if they can truly support their positions: Everyone wants the easy answer but sometimes there are no easy answers and no ONE MAN can be more intelligent than a collaborative group of men.
Back in the day of 3 network media things were clear cut and easier because there just wasn't a lot of contradictory stuff and the news was just a few hour thing to break up the entertainment programming. That day left with the 24/7 cable news shows and the internet taking over. We must also recognize that before our eyes we have been in an extended period of transition from old norms to the new world order of things where factories are replaced by hospitals and high rise offices. It's effects on people is profound indeed and while we are making bucks in the new world order of things to denigrate and castigate those without the ability to keep up, or get left behind, or left out is despicable indeed. If Big Biz and charity can't do it then government is the only viable vehicle left, so to say it's okay to leave half the population hanging on their own devices and government should play NO role, amid this transition, is not even close to the high moral standards some espouse, but action truly belies.
So we either rise to the challenges this brave new world order presents, or drown in our own crap until we figure it out as a collective. Now we can blame the media, the liberals, the conservatives, the rich, the poor, young immigrants, and old immigrants, the dumb, the smart ad nauseum. Doesn't matter! What matters is we rise to the challenge as a COLLECTIVE. We got the right wing version of a solution with the dufus, because the other guys stayed home. So I see the collective society must do a better job of PARTICAPATION in the process of picking leaders and legislatures as a first step in the solution to the problem, or present leadership will run buck wild maintaining the status quo of MO'Money for themselves.
If you think in your wildest dreams you can maintain a great nation by leaving almost half the population out of it you're probably as loony as a broken cuckoo clock. Only correct about a couple of things twice a day if that. I check the accuracy of whatever watch we use for accuracy!
Talaniman: Whatever happened to the collective group "SYNCHRONIZING" their watches? That makes things run smoother!
Nanny Bloomy'd best debate moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK9odsWwfIo
Everybody has to have a good watch to synchronize don't they? Then you have to start with being able to tell time in the first place. Some people get stuck counting their own fingers, let alone trying to master a watch. Not saying they are bad people mind you, just challenged in this particular area. That's why I keep the standard for voting at participation. Maybe synchronizing can come later. Finger crossed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
LOL, I suspect you were looking for that clip instead of watching the debate! Hardly blame you.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Bloomberg is real short on charisma.....and long on $$$s!
That was hilarious.Quote:
Talaniman: Ha, ha: STOP IT! Be nice. Trump came into Office rough around the edges but he is softening those edges some over time. I am sure that in his 2nd Term he will be more mellow.
Geez Vac, you sound like Susan Collins when she said impeachment taught the dufus a lesson. Yeah right.
Take a guess ….which candidate owns this home ?
https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...rip=all&w=1280
What's your point?
Bolshevik Bernie? Isn't that too big for a Dacha?
that's one of 3 homes he owns . here is his modest lakeside home
500 feet of lakefront on Lake Champlainthey added the American flags for the photo op
https://s.hdnux.com/photos/50/75/52/.../3/480x480.jpg
https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...ll&w=782&h=517
A real advocate for poor people. If he really wants to help people, he would seriously downsize and give that money to charity. But then that would not qualify for liberal political thought.
How come that doesn't apply to the dufus?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It does, but the difference, to those who are paying attention, is that Trump does not claim to be the great advocate and protector for the poor in the way that Bernie does. It illustrates what I have said many times. Charity is when I help the poor with my money. Tyranny is when I help the poor with your money.Quote:
How come that doesn't apply to the dufus?
Makes some sense, and for once he isn't making a promise he knows he won't keep, because he sure is expanding the less than median income rolls. Wonder if they will say they are better off than they were before his regime?
https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f
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