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Originally Posted by talaniman

Wingers here are afraid and can't think of any other way to solve a problem than with a gun. They already have 300 million, and need MORE. So they have to find stories to justify their position. I mean how loony is it to sell a gun to a blind man, instead of a seeing eye dog?

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And Left wingers can't think of anything but disarm the public so nobody can oppose them when they continue to violate the law and the constitution... jext kile... Mao, Stalin, Hitler and any other dsepots have done throughout history.

The first actions of the leftists intent on oppression is always disarming their opposition.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Wingers here are afraid and can't think of any other way to solve a problem than with a gun. They already have 300 million, and need MORE. So they have to find stories to justify their position. I mean how loony is it to sell a gun to a blind man, instead of a seeing eye dog?

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More hyperbole and aversion to reality, especially since your VP thinks we need a shotgun. You know damn well responsible gun owners see a gun as the last resort to solving a problem but if comes down to protecting myself or my family I'd rather have a gun than a whistle.

And interesting that you're willing to discriminate against the blind.

And also how willing the Democrats are to hand guns over to Mexican Drug Cartels... and to arm Al Queda in Syria... while at the same time demanding American citizens have their rights denied.

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Give it a little thought... you speak english well enough. It will come to you.

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How come you can never answer a simple question directly?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

How come you can never answer a simple question directly?

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I learned it from you.

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If you can't see what you're shooting you shouldn't have a gun. That's simple common sense and has little to do with rights. By your logic, its discrimination not to sell a gun to a crazy person.

Never mind, my bad, I shouldn't expect logic or common sense from a winger.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

If you can't see what you're shooting you shouldn't have a gun. That's simple common sense and has little to do with rights. By your logic, its discrimination not to sell a gun to a crazy person.

Never mind, my bad, I shouldn't expect logic or common sense from a winger.

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And one would think it common sense to give the blind, and technology a little more credit.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

If you can't see what you're shooting you shouldn't have a gun. That's simple common sense and has little to do with rights. By your logic, its discrimination not to sell a gun to a crazy person.

Never mind, my bad, I shouldn't expect logic or common sense from a winger.

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They give democrats guns... and many of them don't have the cognitive capacity to know what they are shooting at...

Like Joe Biden recommending taking a shotgun and putting two shots through the closed front door of your house if you don't know who's knocking on it. Yeah.. like that is going to end well 99.9999999999% of the time.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

They give democrats guns...and many of them don't have the cognitive capacity to know what they are shooting at......

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I don't recall that a certain Republican vice president was any better

LOL, I don't mind a blind guy shooting at a range with supervision, but not walking the street with a gun.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

LOL, I don't mind a blind guy shooting at a range with supervision, but not walking the street with a gun.

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I think that should go for everyone Tal

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Originally Posted by paraclete

I think that should go for everyone Tal

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It just amazes me that you seem to think the only person that could possible handle a firearm is a person that wears some kind of uniform. I suppose in your opinion that when they are off duty they shouldn't be allowed to carry either?

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Originally Posted by cdad

It just amazes me that you seem to think the only person that could possible handle a firearm is a person that wears some kind of uniform. I suppose in your opinion that when they are off duty they shouldnt be allowed to carry either?

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Exactly, no private citizen has a need to carry a gun. There was a time when our police didn't need to carry guns and we were safer in those days, but there is no eveidence we are made safer by the possession of fire arms and certainly not when some macho idiot is allowed to carry a gun beyond the firing range

How many crimes do cops prevent every year by being somewhere at exactly the right time?

And if they are always there... then why is there a crime rate to speak of?

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Originally Posted by paraclete

exactly, no private citizen has a need to carry a gun. there was a time when our police didn't need to carry guns and we were safer in those days, but there is no eveidence we are made safer by the possession of fire arms and certainly not when some macho idiot is allowed to carry a gun beyond the firing range

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I guess Australia has a crime rate of zero then?

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Originally Posted by smoothy

I guess Australia has a crime rate of zero then?

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No thus our police are armed but it is much lower than the US and the single obvious difference is the availability of firearms

UNODC murder rate US 4.8 Australia 1.0

What we find is our crime is at a lower level and more associated with intoxication than with firearms

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No thus our police are armed but it is much lower than the US and the single obvious difference is the availability of firearms

UNODC murder rate US 4.8 Australia 1.0

What we find is our crime is at a lower level and more associated with intoxication than with firearms

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That's only because they never find the bodies.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Thats only because they never find the bodies.

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Now is that an allusion to Azaria? We find bodies, found one at the bottom of a cliff the other day, poor buggar had been missing for weeks, They found one not far from my place, fellow had been missing for months, but few of them are the result of crime.

Missing believed victim of foul play still counts in the statistics

What about the people who simply go missing?