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But, in his defense, how COULD you have a policy when everything changes in the blink of an eye?

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And are there any "good guys"? Really?

Dude, if I were that admin official and knew what he/she does I'd keep my name off the record, too. Although I agree this regime is full of talking heads - they're led by one - and as George Will put it, the purpose of this intervention will be "to rescue Obama from his words."

P.S. The Hill picked up on the LA Times blurb...

Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked'

As did the NY Post, NPR, FrontPage, Human Events... this is going to go down as one of the all time great foreign policy strategies, "just muscular enough to not get mocked."

Too late...

I am told that before the witches brew of jihadists entered the scene that there was a real national liberation /opposition force (that was early before Benghazi) . But now I say let them fight it out . Let's assume Assad forced did a cw attack. How much worse is that then the jihadists forcing a child to behead someone? (warning graphic video)
Syrian rebels use a child to behead a prisoner « Human rights investigations

How barbaric.

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P.S. The Hill picked up on the LA Times blurb...

Official: White House seeks Syria response 'just muscular enough not to get mocked'

As did the NY Post, NPR, FrontPage, Human Events...this is going to go down as one of the all time great foreign policy strategies, "just muscular enough to not get mocked."

Too late...

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I'm embarrassed that fool Obama is even considered an American...

Talk about a guy that's trying to compensate for something... what happened to just buying a Corvette... its cheaper and nobody gets hurt.

More from Senator Obama 2007 "
"I would meet directly with Syrian leaders. We would engage in a level of aggressive personal diplomacy in which a whole host of issues are on the table…but right now the only incentive that exists is our president suggesting that if you do what we tell you, we may not blow you up. My belief about the regional powers in the Middle East is that they don't respond well to that kind of bluster. They haven't in the past, there's no reason to think they will in the future."

A hopeful Obama before he was elected and things have dramatically changed in Syria, don't you agree?

Hell things have changed dramatically here as well. The WHOLE world has changed!

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A hopeful Obama before he was elected and things have dramatically changed in Syria, don't you agree?

Hell things have changed dramatically here as well. The WHOLE world has changed!

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For the worse.

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For the worse.

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Finally we agree the world has changed for the worse.

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Finally we agree the world has changed for the worse.

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Where we disagree is WHY... and I believe Obama , his words and his policies are a big driver behind making things worse.

He could learn a lesson from the Queen of England... you need to think long and hard about what you are saying in the public arena when you are a speaking for a nation... words alone have consequences. And once spoken can't be taken back.

Royalty means squat to me... but her public behaviour and how she carries herself is deserving of respect on its own merits. Unlike many of her relatives.

The world was going to crap before he got here. And its not crap for everyone, some of us are doing well, and some of us that are doing well are spitting venom on those that aren't.

The Syrian crisis is not Obama's fault and doing nothing about it is common sense. There seems to be some sort of paranoia about poison gas being transported over large distances but the reality is large quantities of pool chemicals pose equal threat within your own borders and yet no terrorist has sought to use them.

You have got to get beyond the idea that the average terrorist is more than a low level gun man. The men who carried out the greatest act of terror in your nation did not use explovises they used something commonly available and no one has yet said that what was used in Syria is not something commonly available. The evidence points to a weapon delived by artilliary but could have just as easily been artilliary hitting something that was already there. Perhaps there was a chemical weapons dump in Damascus

Meanwhile ;the UK ,that does not have a constitution that mandates it ,had a vote in Parliament .They voted to not attack . They then made a request to the PM to honor the sentiment of Parliament... and he agreed.

Here in the US there is a constitutional mandate that war is declared in Congress. That is why GW Bush ASKED Congress for resolutions of war for both GWOT and Iraq. There is an unconstitutional,or of questional constitutionality 'War Powers Act ' that in theory gives the CIC the ability to act under select conditions of national emergency and imminent threat.
The emperor flagrantly violated the terms of the law in Libya.
It appears that both Speaker Bonehead and Madam Mimi have laid down a gauntlet to insist that before the emperor acts ,that he get congressional approval. Lets see if he crosses that red line.

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meanwhile ;the UK ,that does not have a constitution that mandates it ,had a vote in Parliament .They voted to not attack . They then made a request to the PM to honor the sentiment of Parliament .....and he agreed.

Here in the US there is a constitutional mandate that war is declared in Congress. That is why GW Bush ASKED Congress for resolutions of war for both GWOT and Iraq. There is an unconstitutional,or of questional constitutionality 'War Powers Act ' that in theory gives the CIC the ability to act under select conditions of national emergency and imminent threat.
The emperor flagrantly violated the terms of the law in Libya.
It appears that both Speaker Bonehead and Madam Mimi have laid down a gauntlet to insist that before the emperor acts ,that he get congressional approval. Lets see if he crosses that red line.

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There is no imminent threat to the US, to suggest there is is fantacy. There might be an imminent threat to people in Syria, your CIC has no mandate to defend them without a UN sanction. Yes, laws have been broken, perhaps by the Syrian government but no one has given direct evidence, I think, that because there was an artillery attack in which gas was used that they have the responsibility, so do many others but it is opinion not fact. We all have bad memories of WWI and WWII, this may or may not be repeating those circumstances, to suggest there is a red line is nonsense since the number of deaths has already crossed a "red line". Unilateral action is not an option and to do so is a criminal act in itsself

This sums it up nicely:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-i...yria/syria.png

The only people that will benefit are Islamic knuckledraggers who will take over...

The red line statement was one of his "off TOTUS" moments. Now his credibity and the nations comes into play because of his foot in mouth disease.

Now the Lone Ranger war monger is prepared to go it alone.

Syria is not a signatory to the international treaty that bans the use of chemical weapon against people. So if her neighbors take no action, neither should we no matter how despicable her actions are or outraged we are.

So stop hollering about Iran having nukes too. Failure to act against one dictator, emboldens them all.