You don't have a library card, right? Or a vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
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You don't have a library card, right? Or a vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
And your point is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What does he fear will be confiscated because of those databases? His library privileges can be rescinded and his driving privileges can be removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
It's pretty simple, if it's a gun owner database they would confiscate guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Do you also trust the government to never do evil with information compiled on its citizens? I mean seriously, the last few weeks should have boosted skepticism of the government protecting our rights but I guess since it's Obama you guys won't complain until the jackboots are kicking your door down.
Or as has been done in the past his personal information can be given out without his permission or authority. = Abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Libraries are excruciatingly careful about what information is collected and even viewed by staff (only certain people have the high-level password needed to view full patron records), and never by other patrons or police. What happens at the DMV, I have no idea. In today's paper was a short article about an idea of taking away Chicago drivers' licenses and vehicles if they are caught tossing trash out the window and onto the street or parking lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Never fear anyway, Obama has taken this privacy thing by the horns.
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Obama Administration Releases Nation's Phone Records To Public
'We Are Making Every Effort To Be Transparent,' Says President
WASHINGTON—On the heels of reports that the National Security Agency has secretly been amassing the private telephone records of Verizon's more than 120 million customers, President Barack Obama announced Thursday that his administration is releasing the entire country's phone records to the public in an effort to handle the situation with complete transparency. “Honesty and openness have always been the hallmarks of my presidency, which is why I believe that everybody should have free access to this essential information,” the president said at a press conference, encouraging the public to visit a newly created online database containing the time, duration, and location of every wireless and landline phone call made by all 315 million Americans. “We—all of us—are laying our cards on the table here. Now, everyone in the country will know who's calling whom, and when, and how often, and for how long. My administration doesn't have any secrets, and from now on, neither will you.” Obama noted that, for the sake of national security, personal emails, consumer reports, and medical histories will remain the exclusive property of the federal government.
Nope. You're saying it like it's a fact, but it simply the spreading of FUD.Quote:
if it's a gun owner database they would confiscate guns.
Hahahahahhaha... you took a satire article seriously. LOL!Quote:
Never fear anyway, Obama has taken this privacy thing by the horns.
You're an idiot, for once again not recognizing the sarcasm in my post. Are you really that dense as to believe I don't know when I'm on the Onion's site, I was there on purpose and it isn't the first time I've used the Onion here, dufus.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You changed the font after the fact.. and yes I absolutely do believe that you took it seriously - that's how clouded your judgement is. Idiot.
Of course I changed it after the fact, I noted that. The only one whose judgment is clouded here is yours as I have a history of referring to the Onion, you're blinded by some pathetic irrational hatred of me. Get some help, moron, you can't even let me try and lighten the mood with a little humor without being a freakin' killjoy. I bet you're great fun at birthday parties.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
This has to be the most telling line in the whole story:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Now, everyone in the country will know who's calling whom, and when, and how often, and for how long. My administration doesn't have any secrets, and from now on, neither will you.”
He can't really be that stupid can he??
Thanks, Dad, it's pretty damned obvious my comment was sarcastic and article is satire. NK just can't help being a jerk.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
It boasts YOUR skepticism, because that's what you guys are afraid of any way. Most are not. If they can't round up 11 million people how can they round up 360 million guns? Fear is what skews your logic which is loony to normal folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I think the dialog has began for things that's long overdue to inch our way forward though. Now if you guys weren't so paralyzed intellectually with fear we could move faster but we understand we have to take it slow with you guys. >sigh< but we are use to dragging your guys dead weight kicking and screaming into the great unknown future.
I actually respect your noisy caution... sometimes. Maybe the sky will fall someday. Who really knows?
Part of the problem in what your saying as "truth" really isn't. They can if they wanted to round up 11 million people. They choose not to. There is a difference. Isn't "choice" what your side is all about?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
The problem with your little rant is reality is validating our warnings (not our irrational fears, that was your side during the Bush years). Even the NY Times just scolded Obama and shredded his credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/07/op...anted=all&_r=0
You can join us in reality or keep your head planted firmly in the sand. Your choice.
Tal they haven't tried doing a house to house yet, that is the way you get both at the same time, Ah where to start?Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Well you guys live in fear and worry, but realize we can move to a better union as out founders laid out by facing our obstacles and challenges with courage, and thoughtful conviction.
Yes tal stop being at war with each other
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