Ask Me Help Desk - VP Paul Ryan

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

That would be toward business that FOUL our wetlands, SOIL our beaches, KILL the fish, RUIN tourism, and then ACT like THEY'RE the victim.

What I would NEVER do, is apologize to BP for f**ing up the ocean, like that wimpy congressman, Joe Barton did. You probably think they're a victim too. Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

So crucifying people as a preemptive strike is a good RESPONSE to bad behavior? You guys make no sense.

You know, and Tal repeats here every day, that when Obama actually talks policy it's quite often about keeping a clamp on corporations and striking fear into the hearts of people that Romney might loosen that clamp a little bit.

And quite personally I believe such threatening language as I highlighted is beneath the dignity of the office. I stand by my first comment.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

So crucifying people as a preemptive strike is a good RESPONSE to bad behavior?

Huh? BP made the strike, did the bad behavior, and then was put on the naughty char for a time-out.

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when Obama actually talks policy it's quite often about keeping a clamp on corporations and striking fear into the hearts of people that Romney might loosen that clamp a little bit.

Corporations are about money, not reponsibility. They are the ones that holler "feed me more", and whine when they don't get what they want. Which is MO MONEY!

If you don't make them they will poison the planet for a dollar, say oops, and poison it some more. Why are you down with that? Oh that's right, look at all the money they spent cleaning up their messes in Alaska and the gulf. Seen Alaska lately? Howmuch more time dowe wait for them to finish that?

Exxon Valdez oil spill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exxon oil spill in Mont. river prompts evacuations - USATODAY.com

Exxon spill today - Bing Videos

And you want Obama to coddle these fools?? That's okay, just another straw man argument!!

That won't cut it!

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

Huh? BP made the strike, did the bad behavior, and then was put on the naughty char for a time-out.

That was the boot on the neck incident. The other was an EPA dude's philosophy for enforcement...

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"It was kind of like how the Romans used to, you know, conquer villages in the Mediterranean. They'd go in to a little Turkish town somewhere, they'd find the first five guys they saw, and they'd crucify them.

And then, you know, that town was really easy to manage for the next few years."

That would be preemptive.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Corporations are about money...

Duh!

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That was the boot on the neck incident. The other was an EPA dude's philosophy for enforcement...

So bad behavior is okay?

P.S. And you think government is about responsibility? What rock were you born under?

Where is the responsibility in labeling Romney a tax dodger and slave master?

Where is the responsibility in Fast & Furious?

Where is responsibility in the New Black Panthers case?

Where is the responsibility in throwing taxpayer money at failed green corporations, trying to pick winners and losers?

Where is the responsibility in trying to block Boeing from South Carolina?

Where is the responsibility dumping on 20,000 non-union Delphi employees?

Where is the responsibility in the GSA?

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/...08_634x476.jpg

And now we have ICE chief of staff Suzanne Barr sexually harassing ICE employees.

Yeah, let's talk about responsibility.

P.S. Where's the responsibility in using personal email accounts to conduct official government business to conceal the cronyism in this administration?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

So bad behavior is okay?

No, that's why federal officials shouldn't be using terms like "boot on the neck." This isn't Nazi Germany.

I guess 8 years of Bush left a lot of messes to clean up.

Yes it certainly left behind a lot of mixed messages

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Originally Posted by talaniman

I guess 8 years of Bush left a lot of messes to clean up.

So Bush was behind all of those things I listed?

No he started all the crap, and you guys continued it! You asked.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

No he started all the crap, and you guys continued it! You asked.

Bush isn't responsible for any of this, your guy is.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Bush isn't responsible for any of this, your guy is.

Hello again, Steve:

I read your list. All, I got to say, is that the BEST you can do?? Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

I read your list. All, I got to say, is that the BEST you can do?? Bwa, ha ha ha ha.

Excon

That was for starters and thus far it seems to have stumped you and Tal.

P.S. Ryan is going to have a field day with Biden...

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Paul Ryan in Ohio just now: “As Joe Biden might say, it’s great to be here in Nevada!”

Now that was funny.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

That was for starters and thus far it seems to have stumped you and Tal.

P.S. Ryan is going to have a field day with Biden...

Now that was funny.

Well you've got the circus all you need is the tent

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

P.S. And you think government is about responsibility? What rock were you born under?

P.S. And you think government is about responsibility? What rock were you born under?

The government is US, We The People! What rock were you born under? It needs some fixing though.

Where is the responsibility in labeling Romney a tax dodger and slave master?

He is a tax dodger and he has the overseas accounts, shelters, and lawyers to prove it!
Just because it’s legal doesn’t make that statement a lie. I never called him a slave master, but he likes to fire people, so he likes being a boss.

Where is the responsibility in Fast & Furious?

Probably the same place as the waterboarding, Wall Street debacle, and republican obstruction that led to a lowered credit rating, and a looming budget crisis. It’s an ongoing investigation.

Where is responsibility in the New Black Panthers case?

The same place the guys responsible for the economic disaster that threw million out of work. FREE! Those three guys really scare you huh? You tell me where they are, I haven’t seen them in years.

Where is the responsibility in throwing taxpayer money at failed green corporations, trying to pick winners and losers?

ONE company out of 145 that got loans and grants from the Energy Department? Come on.

Where is the responsibility in trying to block Boeing from South Carolina?

It wasn’t blocked, there had to be guarantees that opening a new plant in Carolina didn’t lose jobs in Washington St. They both are running now.

Where is the responsibility dumping on 20,000 non-union Delphi employees?

They all will be paid, so what’s the beef?

Where is the responsibility in the GSA?

You got some specifics in your straw man claim? Matter of fact, all your questions are straw arguments. If only you were as sloppy in managing your fantasy team. One can hope though!

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P.S. And you think government is about responsibility? What rock were you born under?

The government is US, We The People! What rock were you born under? It needs some fixing though.

You don't fix it with more bureaucracy, especially unaccountable bureaucrats like IPAB.

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Where is the responsibility in labeling Romney a tax dodger and slave master?

He is a tax dodger and he has the overseas accounts, shelters, and lawyers to prove it!
Just because it’s legal doesn’t make that statement a lie. I never called him a slave master, but he likes to fire people, so he likes being a boss.

The lie is Reid said Romney didn't pay ANY taxes for 10 years.

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Where is the responsibility in Fast & Furious?

Probably the same place as the waterboarding, Wall Street debacle, and republican obstruction that led to a lowered credit rating, and a looming budget crisis. It’s an ongoing investigation.

There's been almost zero cooperation from the AG's office.

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Where is responsibility in the New Black Panthers case?

The same place the guys responsible for the economic disaster that threw million out of work. FREE! Those three guys really scare you huh? You tell me where they are, I haven’t seen them in years.

Totally unrelated to my question.

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Where is the responsibility in throwing taxpayer money at failed green corporations, trying to pick winners and losers?

ONE company out of 145 that got loans and grants from the Energy Department? Come on.

I know you libs have trouble with math but come on.

Solyndra
Evergreen Solar Inc.
SpectraWatt
Mountain Plaza Inc.
Ener1
Beacon Power

And I'm sure I'm missing someone.

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Where is the responsibility in trying to block Boeing from South Carolina?

It wasn’t blocked, there had to be guarantees that opening a new plant in Carolina didn’t lose jobs in Washington St. They both are running now.

Obama's National Labor Relations Board, sued Boeing to try and force Boeing to stop production in South Carolina. Fact.

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Where is the responsibility dumping on 20,000 non-union Delphi employees?

They all will be paid, so what’s the beef?

The Treasury Dept. terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union Delphi employees. Exactly what are they getting paid?

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Where is the responsibility in the GSA?

[B]You got some specifics in your straw man claim? Matter of fact, all your questions are straw arguments.

Help yourself.

GSA scandal.

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If only you were as sloppy in managing your fantasy team. One can hope though!

It's going to take the majority of my team going on DL for me to lose. Better luck in football.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The lie is Reid said Romney didn't pay ANY taxes for 10 years.

You know he did all ten years?

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

You know he did all ten years?

The question is do you know he didn't?