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  • Jul 23, 2012, 07:20 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    You're right. You can't make this stuff up.

    Guess what MSNBC dug up? Romney to Olympians, "You didn't get here solely on your own". And they didn't have take it out of context either.

    I wonder if they'll run it. Nahhhh.

    excon
  • Jul 23, 2012, 07:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    At least he didn't give government all the credit.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 07:58 AM
    talaniman
    Neither did the president. Thanks ex, I was wondering when the righties would jump on Romney like they did the Prez for saying the same thing.

    The double standard doesn't surprise me. The shame is I watched FOX NEWS to see if those stooges would get it! They didn't.

    I know I expected too much fair and balance. My bad!
  • Jul 23, 2012, 08:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    I didn't see where Romney said "if you got to the Olympics - you didn't do that. somebody else made that happen."

    And from your link, he praised their individual achievements as opposed to discounting them:

    Quote:

    “Tonight we cheer the Olympians, who only yesterday were children themselves,” Romney said. “As we watch them over the next 16 days, we affirm that our aspirations, and those of our children and grandchildren, can become reality. We salute you Olympians – both because you dreamed and because you paid the price to make your dreams real. You guys pushed yourself, drove yourself, sacrificed, trained and competed time and again at winning and losing.”
  • Jul 23, 2012, 08:53 AM
    Wondergirl
    ROMNEY: "You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities."
  • Jul 23, 2012, 08:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    ROMNEY: "You Olympians, however, know you didn’t get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. We’ve already cheered the Olympians, let’s also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities."

    This is the correct quote.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 09:24 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I didn't see where Romney said "if you got to the Olympics - you didn't do that. somebody else made that happen."

    Hello again, Steve:

    You're SOOO wedded to that position that you cannot see the error of your ways... Turn that FOX News OFF!

    excon
  • Jul 23, 2012, 10:45 AM
    tomder55
    http://spectator.org/assets/mc/carto...t-Build-It.jpg
  • Jul 23, 2012, 11:26 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    I don't know about you, but if it were proven, time and time again, that MY guy said the SAME thing that I've been complaining about Obama saying, I wouldn't post MORE of it..

    But, that's just me.

    excon
  • Jul 23, 2012, 11:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    This is the correct quote.

    And mine, from the same article, was incorrect how??
  • Jul 23, 2012, 11:49 AM
    tomder55
    No I think I will when I find them. They are hilarious. Besides ;Romney give a hat tip to family and community. . Obama gives it to government . Big difference . In fact ,the only thing the government contributes to the Olympics evidently is a critique on where they get their uniforms . When I was a kid there was an Olympian from my area who was employed by Grumman... but we knew he spent most of his time training to throw a shotput. He wasn't on the Government payroll . He was employed by a private sector sponsor.
    Obama on the other hand talks of government employed teachers ,or government built roads and internet . He says it to imply directly that without the government we would not succeed . Not only that ;he said business people are too stupid to do it alone.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 11:52 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Not only that ;he said business people are too stupid to do it alone.

    Hello again, tom:

    OMG.. You've fallen in with the Tea Party.. There's no coming back, you know.

    excon
  • Jul 23, 2012, 11:54 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And mine, from the same article, was incorrect how???

    It didn't speak to the question on the table.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 01:29 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    It didn't speak to the question on the table.

    What?? That's ridiculous, it's from the same d@mn article.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 01:44 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What??????? That's ridiculous, it's from the same d@mn article.

    Quit sputtering. You had said, 'I didn't see where Romney said "if you got to the Olympics - you didn't do that. somebody else made that happen.' " So I quoted the part where he said that.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 02:05 PM
    speechlesstx
    I repeat:

    Quote:

    I didn't see where Romney said "if you got to the Olympics - you didn't do that. somebody else made that happen."

    And from your link, he praised their individual achievements as opposed to discounting them:

    Quote:
    “Tonight we cheer the Olympians, who only yesterday were children themselves,” Romney said. “As we watch them over the next 16 days, we affirm that our aspirations, and those of our children and grandchildren, can become reality. We salute you Olympians – both because you dreamed and because you paid the price [B]to make your dreams real. You guys pushed yourself, drove yourself, sacrificed, trained and competed time and again at winning and losing.”
    What part of "you" did this as opposed you "didn't" do this don't you understand? And are you really equating “loving parents, sisters or brothers" etc. with the government made your Olympic dreams come true? Really?
  • Jul 23, 2012, 02:26 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What part of "you" did this as opposed you "didn't" do this don't you understand? And are you really equating “loving parents, sisters or brothers" etc. with the government made your Olympic dreams come true? Really?

    But that ("the government") isn't what President Obama said.
  • Jul 23, 2012, 02:58 PM
    speechlesstx
    You need to read his speech again. Deficit - government. Ask the wealthy to pay more - government taxes. Teacher - government. American system - government. Roads and bridges - government. Internet - government (so he claims). Fighting fires - government. What did Obama say that did not point to government?
  • Jul 23, 2012, 03:04 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    What did Obama say that did not point to government?

    Dear lord!! Or as my Tar Heel friends used to say, "Lawsy days!!!"
  • Jul 24, 2012, 05:46 AM
    tomder55
    http://www.johnbatchelorshow.com/sit...ublic/aaa3.jpg

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