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Originally Posted by excon

These charges would NOT have happened WITHOUT the public pressure brought by LEFT WINGERS, that you so decried..

excon

So is it now mob mentality law? Is it OK to make up law since the left wingers have made death threats and bounties against the man accused even without a trial? How far would you lke to go? The Special Prosecutor is a elected position. She was appointed to do something because others were making noise. It doesn't matter if the law is followed just so long as justice is served. This is a joke. They are doing it to relieve pressure from the extreme ends. Its not about law. What is going to happen and be said if he is found not guilty ? Will the left rise up and riot ?

So peaceful demonstration is now MOB MENTALITY?? While I agree some, on both sides may have gotten carried away, and they are the exceptions, not the rule, as its looney for a total of 6 guys to offer a million dollar bounty, and ridicules for some one to paint "long live zimmerman" on the Ohio State black student union building.

Both done by the stupid, and ignorant.

Ex ; I'm willing to give the special prosecutor the benefit of the doubt that she found new evidence that warrants a 2nd degree murder charge. It's evidence you and I haven't seen because with the evidence that is public knowledge,I don't see how that charge could stick. More likely however ,this is a charge brought about by public pressure,and not the evidence.

Also would like to see where Zimmerman could get a fair trial with the President and the Att General making public comment on the case... in the case of Holder... making them in front of an audience of an organization founded by Al Sharpton (National Action Network).

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Originally Posted by califdadof3

So is it now mob mentality law? They are doing it to relieve pressure from the extreme ends. Its not about law. What is going to happen and be said if he is found not guilty ? Will the left rise up and riot ?

Hello dad:

Couple things... If the special prosecutor is bringing charges for POLITICAL reasons and not LEGAL ones, and he's acquitted, there COULD be riots, and I'd SUPPORT them. I'd be PISSED off to be placated like that.

I HOPE that isn't her motivation. I HOPE she thinks she can get a conviction. I HOPE the law is more than a political tool. Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't know you were so calloused about it.

I have experience with southern cops. I believe, from the get go, the cops had NO intention of charging Zimmerman and they didn't. Case closed.

That is until some people took advantage of their Constitutional rights (which you call a mob), and let the government know about their displeasure. In my view, civil disobedience is the HIGHEST form of patriotism. And, you call it a mob. Fortunately, this is America. It worked. The case got a SECOND look with UNBIASED eyes. And, those eyes saw something the bunglers/racist cops didn't.

Now, I don't know how people are going to react. I don't speak for them.

excon

Guilty or not guilty the important fact here is the evidence will be tried in a court of law, not a kangaroo court of cops and public opinion and then justice will have been seen to be done

The point Clete, is this should have been done when it happened, then no public outrage would have been needed. Justice delayed, is justice denied.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

guilty or not guilty the important fact here is the evidence will be tried in a court of law, not a kangaroo court of cops and public opinion and then justice will have been seen to be done

Hello clete:

Nahhhh. That's not important.. Neither Zimmerman OR his guilt, is the issue here. What IS important, is that CIVIL disobedience WORKED to right a wrong. The ISSUE is the law, which allowed a killer to walk free, or the racist cops and/or prosecutor who let a killer walk free - or BOTH.

excon

I don't see where the 'stand your ground' law is relevant . It is either murder or self defense.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Just because Wal Marts has no union, doesn't mean Ford doesn't. A right to work state doesn't make unions illegal for anyone. The workers can decide if they want to form one or not.

Doesn't matter if a union exists or not and it has nothing to do with Walmart. In a right to work state the union can't force you to pay union dues. In nearly half the states they can. I thought you knew that.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I don't see where the 'stand your ground' law is relevent . It is either murder or self defense.

Exactly, she charged him with 2nd degree murder in spite of SYG, so ex's argument is out the window..

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Originally Posted by tomder55

I don't see where the 'stand your ground' law is relevent . It is either murder or self defense.

Hello again, tom:

So you say. His attorney will say 'stand your ground' DOES apply. I think the law gives killers like Zimmerman a pass. I think the judge will agree.

excon

Meanwhile in Chi-town this year... 120 killed and 500 wounded.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

meanwhile in Chi-town this year ... 120 killed and 500 wounded.

Hello again, tom:

In how many of those killings did the state brush their hands and say, nothing happened here??

excon

Wonder if the New Black Panther Party will put a bounty out for this drive by shooter ?
Mom, 1-year-old daughter shot while sleeping: 'A terrible thing' - chicagotribune.com
Wonder if Jesse Jackson will lead a protest march ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Wonder if the New Black Panther Party will put a bounty out for this drive by shooter ?

Hello again, tom:

Those 4 guys probably don't have $25 between them. Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello dad:

Couple things... If the special prosecutor is bringing charges for POLITICAL reasons and not LEGAL ones, and he's acquitted, there COULD be riots, and I'd SUPPORT them. I'd be PISSED off to be placated like that.

I HOPE that isn't her motivation. I HOPE she thinks she can get a conviction. I HOPE the law is more than a political tool. Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't know you were so calloused about it.

I have experience with southern cops. I believe, from the get go, the cops had NO intention of charging Zimmerman and they didn't. Case closed.

That is until some people took advantage of their Constitutional rights (which you call a mob), and let the government know about their displeasure. In my view, civil disobedience is the HIGHEST form of patriotism. And, you call it a mob. Fortunately, this is America. It worked. The case got a SECOND look with UNBIASED eyes. And, those eyes saw something the bunglers/racist cops didn't.

Now, I dunno how people are gonna react. I don't speak for them.

excon

Here is the deal. This woman is a rouge. She pushs buttons and tries to push herself into the news. She tries for what she can and then throws is lessor charges as many as she can to try to make something stick. Have you read her bio?

http://theobamacrat.com/2012/03/28/special-prosecutor-states-attorney-ms-angela-b-corey/

Another question I have is why circumvent the grand jury process if her evidence is so strong? Smells bad to me and she is grandstanding. That can only hurt the innocent.

Special prosecutors are assigned for one purpose only... to prosecute. All one needs to do is remember the screwing of Scooter Libby.

This is classic strategery.. She over charged and will settle for a lesser plea... that is if the mob will permit it.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

This is classic strategery .. She over charged and will settle for a lesser plea ....that is if the mob will permit it.

Hello again, tom:

I don't know. You sound positively sympathetic to the killer.. Ordinarily, as a card carrying right winger, you'd LOVE a prosecutor to over charge. Do you remember all those OTHER killings you keep pointing us to?? Probably wouldn't bother you one iota if those killers got overcharged. If one of 'em got off on a technicality, you'd be pissed. But, not this one.

You wonder why black on black crime doesn't bother the black community.. I wonder why white on black crime doesn't bother you.

excon

Poor Scooter Libby, took the bullet for his president. Like Ollie North, dope dealer, a right wing hero.

Show me the instance where I have been a cheer leader to prosecutors on these pages .