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  • Dec 16, 2009, 07:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Sorry, that's not how it works. I posted the evidence, it's up to you to refute it. And you can't.

    I'm telling you there is no evidence in the website you read. The guy writes up but he has no evidence to back it up.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 08:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'm telling you there is no evidence in the website you read. The guy writes up but he has no evidence to back it up.

    Both sites are full of links to the evidence in their reports, you know how links work. The evidence is posted, you have no rebuttal, and I'm OK with that.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 08:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    You obviously don't follow those links. Lol!
  • Dec 16, 2009, 10:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You obviously don't follow those links. Lol!

    What are you, 12 years old?
  • Dec 16, 2009, 10:39 AM
    Synnen

    Wow... have we degenerated into insults instead of discussion?
  • Dec 16, 2009, 10:41 AM
    NeedKarma
    That seems to happen when I call them on some inaccuracies that they take as fact.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 10:53 AM
    Alty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Synnen View Post
    Wow...have we degenerated into insults instead of discussion?

    Sadly it's the norm.

    I think everyone needs a time out, separate corners.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 10:58 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That seems to happen when I call them on some inaccuracies that they take as fact.

    Strange how you accuse me of "making sh!t up," that I buy up incorrect information, that I'm "moving dangerously close to Glen Beck style of "opinionating" and that I base my opinions on "a pile of steaming crap," and I'm the one insulting you and have no answers? Only in your alternate reality...
  • Dec 16, 2009, 11:01 AM
    NeedKarma
    The website you link to is the pile of crap not you. As you may know Beck posits his craziness by saying "his just asking questions here". I already explained that your website offers no backup to the ludicrous things it and you are offering as fact.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 11:02 AM
    Alty

    Is it time to close down the thread before this gets out of hand or can we all play nice?

    Wouldn't it be interesting to have a religious based discussion without name calling and childish behavior?

    I'm sure we can do it. After all, we are all adults, nes pas? So let's act like adults.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 11:23 AM
    tomder55
    By his own admission and in his own book(One Teacher in Ten: Gay and Lesbian Educators Tell Their Stories) ;the "safe school czar " Kevin Jennings described an encounter he had with a student (originally it was a 15 year old ,but in later versions he changed the story to a 16 year old ) . The boy confided in Jennings, his teacher ,that he had gone home with a man the boy had met in a bus station rest room. Instead of using the story as a teachable moment to tell the boy about the dangers he was subjecting himself to ;so perhaps that behavior could be discouraged; Jennings told the boy "be sure to wear a condum" .

    This is who we want as a 'safe school czar '?
    All the controversies surrounding this guy could've easily been revealed in some basic vetting . But as in other cases ;it appears that the Obots don't do due dilligence and they end up spending their time initially defending the appointee before ultimately throwing them under the bus.

    Edit . I know some teachers .They have told me they are required by law to report potential abuse cases. I'd say the example above qualifies as one . Perhaps that is why he changed the story to a boy of 16 . That is the age of consent in Mass.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 12:03 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    The website you link to is the pile of crap not you.

    NK, that's not what I claimed. I was accurate in my assessment, you should read it again.

    Quote:

    As you may know Beck posits his craziness by saying "his just asking questions here".
    For at least the 3rd time, I don't watch Beck.

    Quote:

    I already explained that your website offers no backup to the ludicrous things it and you are offering as fact.
    Refute the links if you can, but simply repeating your claim doesn't make it any more true.
  • Dec 16, 2009, 12:15 PM
    Alty

    Okay, obviously we can't play nice.

    Mods, I think it's time to shut her down.

    Twelve pages. Not bad for a religious discussion. Sad that we can't do better. :(
  • Dec 16, 2009, 12:44 PM
    Synnen

    Closed.

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