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Originally Posted by smoothy

Back to this race baiting by the left again.....plenty of statistics back the fact they (the blacks) commit crimes of all types in much higher rates of any other ethnic group...or is that YOUR racist side by pretending thats NOT the case?

In fact statistics prove it even around here on a local scale with PG county MD....and DC wheich have been majority plack for some time...also are the areas with the highest crime rates in this area...spread that ring outward to past 60 miles...and Baltimore...another Black majority city with a massive crime problem falls into the fold.

Chicagos crime issues are legendary.....As are those of Camden NJ. Both majority black cities coincidently.

Instead of pointing out the obvious, you might look for other reasons, like the level of disadvantage, or the level of unemployment. I don't doubt you have a problem with drugs and associated crime but Chicago for example had a crime problem long before black people gained the ascendency and you may find if you looked closely that some of these other areas might have too. You might ask who modelled lawlessnes for black people? You also have a high black population in jails. What this demonstrates is the system of law enforcement, etc doesn't work.. You know they say the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same things and expect things to change

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Your debates are more interesting we don't have the same problems you do in finding solutions, but smoothy just has to be taken on, his attitudes are too far to the right, he sounds like a closet KKK member and don't you find it disturbing he allegedly works for your government

If you'll notice I answer for myself, not Smoothy. See the P.S. on my last post.

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Originally Posted by excon

Good Morning, clete:

**greenie**

excon

I don't know what that means ex but I expect you are saying I'm further left than you are, not so, I actually have some very right wing attitudes about certain things but I'm not as far right as these fellows.

Where I come from a greenie is a tree hugging no hoper who thinks the environment must be preserved at the expense of the community whilst I don't think climate change is actually happening, not in the way it is being sold anyway, taking temperature and CO2 readings next to an active volcano , give me a break, please, but it has nothing to do with this discussion

Clete ,it's the AMHD silly rating system that they have to good sense to not employ on this board.

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Originally Posted by paraclete

Instead of pointing out the obvious, you might look for other reasons, like the level of disadvantage, or the level of unemployment. I don't doubt you have a problem with drugs and associated crime but Chicago for example had a crime problem long before black people gained the ascendency and you may find if you looked closely that some of these other areas might have too. You might ask who modelled lawlessnes for black people?. You also have a high black population in jails. What this demonstrates is the system of law enforcement, etc doesn't work.. You know they say the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same things and expect things to change

THose are lame excuses... people are responsible for their own action.

Black people are no less capable of civilized behaviour and success than any other group... despite the way so many of them appear to act... because that takes effort and work.. something that the criminal element has an adversion to doing... despite their ethnic background.

You on the other hand like so many other lefties... seem to believe they are inferiour and as such need estra help and assistance because you don't think they can do it on their own.

I on the other hand know they can if they got off their butts and made the effort. That would make you part of the racist element here... not me.

Nice rant smoothy as usual you ignore the obvious, it's a lot easier for a young black guy to go to prison than his white counterpart because the cops hang around the hood instead of the gated communities where most of the dope dealing goes on, have no lawyers, and get heavier sentences.

But like always you never address unequal circumstances and opt for the hardcore racist version of everything. If by a miracle the law was equally applied and enforced the kids in the burbs around the hood would be doing as much time as the kids on the corner unless daddy's lawyer get it reduced, or posts bail.

I bet you thought all the criminals were equal? Naw, I never heard you rail against the ones with lawyers and loot. Just the poor ones of color.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Nice rant smoothy as usual you ignore the obvious, its a lot easier for a young black guy to go to prison than his white counterpart because the cops hang around the hood instead of the gated communities where most of the dope dealing goes on, have no lawyers, and get heavier sentences.

But like always you never address unequal circumstances and opt for the hardcore racist version of everything. If by a miracle the law was equally applied and enforced the kids in the burbs around the hood would be doing as much time as the kids on the corner unless daddy's lawyer get it reduced, or posts bail.

I bet you thought all the criminals were equal? Naw, I never heard you rail against the ones with lawyers and loot. Just the poor ones of color.

That's pure leftist propaganda and you can't prove otherwise. The lefties are invested in the mentality that they and certain other groups are incapible of getting by much less succeeding without the help of the government.

Its all total BS.

Just like the other favorite lefty rant that someone can't get rich without someone getting poor as a result.

It might work that way in certain lefty neighborhoods like CHicago where crime is the major industry, but not in the real world.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

But like always you never address unequal circumstances and opt for the hardcore racist version of everything.

Such as the unequal circumstances created by LBJ when he set up the "War on Poverty" that he told two governors was designed to have blacks "voting Democrat for two hundred years?"

Blacks will vote Democrat. - What Liberals Say

There's your hardcore racism

I read the link but please elaborate on the unequal circumstances of the War On Poverty.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Clete ,it's the AMHD silly rating system that they have to good sense to not employ on this board.

Really Tom never seen it what does it mean?

Poor white people don't get the same benefits... Poor Asians don't either... nor do the poor of any other ethnic group.

So much for equality as far as Liberals are concerned... its handouts for our voter base and screw the rest.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Poor white people don't get the same benefits...Poor Asians don't either....nor do the poor of any other ethnic group.

So much for equality as far as Liberals are concerned....its handouts for our voter base and screw the rest.

Quite a claim now back it up with fact.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Quite a claim now back it up with fact.

Why should I bother... you don't.

Another wild claim you cannot backup.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Quite a claim now back it up with fact.

Here is a factoid for you. This is some of the poorest of the poor we have in the United States. And these people have a much different attitude then the ones that figure its owed to them for a lifetime.

Appalachia's War: The poorest of the poor struggle back

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http://www.app-pov-proj.org/igive.html

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Originally Posted by talaniman

I read the link but please elaborate on the unequal circumstances of the War On Poverty.

The main program of the "War on Poverty," AFDC, encouraged staying in 'unequal circumstances.'

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Typically, only very poor families composed
Of single mothers and their children qualified
For AFDC. This feature led some to
Argue that the program discouraged marriage
And work. To be eligible for AFDC, a
Family had to include a dependent child who
Was under age 18, was a citizen or permanent
Legal resident, and could be considered
Deprived of parental support—usually
Because no father lived in the home

http://www.futureofchildren.org/futu...s/07_01_01.pdf

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Another wild claim you cannot backup.

No less than your claim.

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Originally Posted by cdad

Here is a factoid for you. This is some of the poorest of the poor we have in the United States. And these people have a much different attitude then the ones that figure its owed to them for a lifetime.

Appalachia's War: The poorest of the poor struggle back

Added after post.

http://www.app-pov-proj.org/igive.html

And I can back that up because unlike the lefties here whose world perspective is what they are told through a lens of bias... I actually grew up around some of the Appalachia culture and people. As I grew up in the northeastern fringe of it.

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Originally Posted by smoothy

Appalachia culture and people. As I grew up in the northeastern fringe of it.

The ones I grew up around (NC hills) had illegal stills and drove over roads at night, delivering illegal moonshine and avoiding the "revenuers." And that wasn't the only illegal thing they did.

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

The ones I grew up around (NC hills) had illegal stills and drove over roads at night, delivering illegal moonshine and avoiding the "revenuers." And that wasn't the only illegal thing they did.

Didn't know any with stills... but that's not saying there wasn't any. Just nobody admitted to it.