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Hello smoothy, fuktard:
What??? I'm gonna explain myself you to you, a$$hole???? Who the fuk do you think you are???

excon

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I'm guessing you don't actually have your own business then?


I never claimed to.......

Hello again, tom:

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Seniors in NY in Medicare Advantage can't keep their doctor either

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I have Medicare Advantage. I'm keeping my doctor. My state has NOTHING to do with that coverage. Me theenks NY doesn't either.

excon

Okay wingers it's real simple NOBODY, not even the states can afford rising cost of making insurance company's RICH.

Until you face that fact, you just don't know what you are talking about no matter who you blame. Insurance companies have been doing this crap for DECADES, and now all of a sudden you are their best buddies and protectors.

If you ain't stupid and loud, then you are crazy and loud. Keep hollering, but its obvious you have no solutions, just more of the same.

And Tom, if we had the votes for single payer, we would have it NOW, but we will.

I see Koolaid has been doing a booming business in certain regions.

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Hello again, tom:
I don't know much about politics, but I don't think FAILING on their signature piece of legislation is a good strategy for achieving what they actually want.. Only in the minds of right wingers, would this be true.

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Since their signature legislation could not pass ;they muscled through what they could and threw in the poison pill that is sure to collapse the health insurance industry... leaving America little choice but to accept the socialist solution... It's the Fabian socialists way of doing things... When they can't get the whole enchilada ,they settle for incremental advances ;always keeping their eye on the ultimate goal.

Hello again, tom:

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leaving America little choice but to accept the socialist solution.

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What have you been smoking??

Look.. I dunno who's been telling you that, but if Obamacare FAILS, NOBODY will give the Democrats a second chance. That would be NOBODY. Ted Cruz will NEVER let that happen, and this time he'll have the backing of the ENTIRE GOP - YOU included.

We'll go back to what we had or WORSE, and Ted Cruz will BE the next president.

excon

Obviously this disaster we warned about coming to fruition is causing the true believers to come unhinged. Don't blame us, blame the morons that gave it to us. That's what you get when your signature accomplishment is based on an applause line and lies.

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And Tom, if we had the votes for single payer, we would have it NOW, but we will.

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The only votes you had was based on the big lie about being able to keep your insurance and doctor if you like them.

Okay he lied to 5%, and told the truth to 95%. Bet your average ain't as good as his.

He lied to 100%... and he lied about everything.

I think he lied about graduating college too... since nobody has seen his transcripts.

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Hello again, tom:
What have you been smoking??

Look.. I dunno who's been telling you that, but if Obamacare FAILS, NOBODY will give the Democrats a second chance. That would be NOBODY. Ted Cruz will NEVER let that happen, and this time he'll have the backing of the ENTIRE GOP - YOU included.

We'll go back to what we had or WORSE, and Ted Cruz will BE the next president.

excon

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During the emperor's September 2009 joint session address to Congress on Obamacare, he said that “I am not the first President to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last.” But when the bill passed, he insisted that it was only a critical “first step” to overhauling the system.

I wonder if the "True believers" hawk AMWAY products too.

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During the emperor's September 2009 joint session address to Congress on Obamacare, he said that “I am not the first President to take up this cause, but I am determined to be the last.” But when the bill passed, he insisted that it was only a critical “first step” to overhauling the system.

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He knew you would holler about ANY step and realizes he has to go slow with you guys and the facts dragging you along kicking and screaming was one HUGE project.

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He knew you would holler about ANY step and realizes he has to go slow with you guys and the facts dragging you along kicking and screaming was one HUGE project.

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This guy nails it.

How Obama went from bulls–t to dishonesty | New York Post

We're tired of being lied to by this guy.

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This guy nails it.

How Obama went from bulls–t to dishonesty | New York Post

We're tired of being lied to by this guy.

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You tired of being lied to by politicians? Start a revolution. Use those guns you have been storing for just such an occasion. You know why you won't do it, because you have too much to loose. Reality is things just aren't that bad, now are they? All right, you are being forced in a direction you don't want to go. When it happened here forty years ago I thought it was a bad thing too. Mind you we had a different take on it but the outcome was the same, someone was going to pay more for basic health care and those with lots of money were going to pay lots. Time resolved this and even the doctors grew to use it without whinging. The specialists are still outside the system doing what they do best, making money, but the poor have their needs taken care of.

We were lied to by one of our own in 1992 . GHW Bush made a very clear promise to not raise taxes . He lied . Because of that ,his base either did not show up ,or voted for Ross Perot . Had he kept his promise ,Bush would've had a 2nd term.Clearly Tal and the Obots support the emperor's deception.

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We were lied to by one of our own in 1992 . GHW Bush made a very clear promise to not raise taxes . He lied . Because of that ,his base either did not show up ,or voted for Ross Perot . Had he kept his promise ,Bush would've had a 2nd term.Clearly Tal and the Obots support the emperor's deception.

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Exactly.

Now you are blaming Bush in 1992?

Republicans lied, so surprise, surprise oh wait, politicians lied no surprise at all

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Republicans lied, so surprise, surprise oh wait, politicians lied no surprise at all

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Democrats actually have an adversion to the facts and to truth in general.