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Originally Posted by paraclete

No you will appoint women to positions and push men down

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We'll corral them and use them for reproduction purposes. (I think there is a dystopian novel about that.)

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

We'll corral them and use them for reproduction purposes. (I think there is a dystopian novel about that.)

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I thought as much

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Originally Posted by Wondergirl

We'll corral them and use them for reproduction purposes. (I think there is a dystopian novel about that.)

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I didn't think you needed men for anything.

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I didn't think you needed men for anything.

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I know it's been a while since you participated in the sexual reproductive process but c'mon! :D

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I know it's been a while since you participated in the sexual reproductive process but c'mon! :D

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Since my wife has been unable to reproduce for over 30 years you would be correct.

Seems conservatives get so wrapped upin what the church tells them that they forget what a female really needs forhealth and quality of life. Why can't they let females and their doctors decide what they need, and what must be done.

Unmarried with children, single, divorced, widowed, or unemployed females don't get much consideration from the right these days.

That makes you bullies.

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Since my wife has been unable to reproduce for over 30 years you would be correct.

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You forgot how humans reproduce?? Most people learn that in their teens and never forget it!
Playing the pity card is really low but I'm not surprised.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

You forgot how humans reproduce???? Most people learn that in their teens and never forget it!
Playing the pity card is really low but I'm not surprised.

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LOL, has nothing to do with pity. Just pointing out sometimes you should think before speaking.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Seems conservatives get so wrapped upin what the church tells them that they forget what a female really needs forhealth and quality of life. Why can't they let females and their doctors decide what they need, and what must be done.

Unmarried with children, single, divorced, widowed, or unemployed females don't get much consideration from the right these days

That makes you bullies.

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Another straw man followed by an insult. I'm not Catholic so I don't don't give a rat's a$$ what they tell their members. My argument is based solely on the right to practice their faith without government interference. The fact is no one is preventing women from deciding their health care needs, you just have this ridiculous idea that if the church doesn't PAY for it they're interfering.

What's even more ridiculous than that is you want to force the very institutions that do more to care for people in need than anyone else to cease doing their work in the process, then blame us for not caring about people. That takes a hell of a lot of nerve.

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What's even more ridiculous than that is you want to force the very institutions that do more to care for people in need than anyone else to cease doing their work in the process

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I don't think he ever said that did he?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I don't think he ever said that did he?

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In effect yes. If he supports the mandate then he supports religious institutions closing their doors to helping people.

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The fact is no one is preventing women from deciding their health care needs, you just have this ridiculous idea that if the church doesn't PAY for it they're interfering.

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That's my point, the church doesn't pay for contraceptives or band aids used by YOUR doctor. The insurance company does. Why can't you see the obvious difference?

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In effect yes. If he supports the mandate then he supports religious institutions closing their doors to helping people.

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Now who is making straw arguments and assignning positions I haven't taken?

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Originally Posted by talaniman

That's my point, the church doesn't pay for contraceptives or band aids used by YOUR doctor. The insurance company does. Why can't you see the obvious difference?

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Oh stop pretending you don't know how this works.The insurance company pays for nothing, it all comes from the policyholder's premiums, i.e. they just redistribute the church's money. You pretend the insurance company is just doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, which is quite an odd position to take coming from the guy who rants daily about corporate greed..

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Now who is making straw arguments and assignning positions I haven't taken?

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You do understand what "in effect" means don't you?

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Now who is making straw arguments and assignning positions I haven't taken?

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You aren't use to it by now? LOL It's the only way some people can discuss; by putting words in your mouth and then tearing them down.

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You do understand what "in effect" means don't you?

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No, please explain it.

Then point us to the post where he says

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you want to force the very institutions that do more to care for people in need than anyone else to cease doing their work

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You aren't use to it by now? LOL It's the only way some people can discuss; by putting words in your mouth and then tearing them down.


No, please explain it.

Then point us to the post where he says

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Sorry, but I've made my case clearly many times. Look it up.

I think you should apologize to him. What you do is intellectually dishonest.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I think you should apologize to him. What you do is intellectually dishonest.

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Coming from you? Bwa ha ha ha!!

You really need to stop assigning positions to people that they did not overtly take.

And those greedy bast@rd insurance companies have been raising those premiums and stopping them from providing certain benefits will save you nothing. And I ASSUME the church pays those premiums and doesn't deduct a part of a workers pay to support paying those premiums. All the companies who offer employer based insurance do but if the church DOESN'T you may have a point,but unless you can indeed verify it,you may have a belief,or opinion, but not facts so do your homework, and don't assume.

I guess that's why all the civilized countries have universal health care to keep the religions out of the health care process and NOW it makes perfect sense. Thanks Speech for making the case.

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You really need to stop assigning positions to people that they did not overtly take.

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ZZzzzzzzz... if you had any credibility someone might care.