I understand that Biden is going to put a lot of thought into that very subject. He should be finished in ten or fifteen years.
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I understand that Biden is going to put a lot of thought into that very subject. He should be finished in ten or fifteen years.
back when Trump announced it critics scoffed at the idea that any vaccine would be approved before the end of 2020 . VP Harris said it was being developed in a dangerous manner and suggested on the campaign trail that she would not take the vaccine . Also the reason Quid can brag about how many Americans have already been vaccinated is because Trump went ahead and contracted with the pharmaceutical companies to secure US supply of the vaccine well before they were approved . Over in Europe they did not take those steps . Now European nations fight amongst themselves for supply .They call it 'jab wars ' . They are looking at severe lockdowns this week . Paris hospitals are at capacity . The Germans basically rebelled when Merkel planned tough lockdowns for Easter . She has resigned after her party got pummeled in the elections Sunday .
Here in the US restrictions are being lifted . Quid takes credit for what Trump achieved
Exactly correct, and a truth that is obvious to all but the TDS afflicted.Quote:
Quid takes credit for what Trump achieved
The Dufus Supporters. 8DQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It occurred to me today how to get all of these liberal dems to agree that the vaccine was developed during the Trump admin. If any negative side effects begin to show up in major numbers, they'll be all over it then as an opportunity to be critical.
There are already reasons to be critical of various vaccines
The ones here seem to be relatively uneventful so far.
I heard some criticism of the J&J product recently
not the vaccine The problem @ J&J was a human screw up. About 15 million doses in a Baltimore plant were mixed up . Doses from Netherland are being used. But the Baltimore doses were destroyed and that will delay April delivery . Emergent BioSolutions is the company that screwed the doses and this is not the 1st time their quality control has been an issue. They have been cited in the past by the FDA for poorly trained employees, cracked vials and mold around one of its facilities . J&J linked up with them last year to subcontract the manufacture of the vaccine. This is a big set back for the schedule of the vaccine that J&J projected . But they will still make their delivery goals ....a month later than scheduled .
Clearly Quid knew about the problem a month ago . Yet the problem did not n make the news until recently . Quid cancelled a visit to the Emergent plant the beginning of March . Now we know why. When asked why Quid cancelled Jen Psaki told the press “We just felt [the White House] was a more appropriate place to have the meeting” .So much for transparency .
Emergent was also the focus of controversy when it was revealed that for about a decade ,the priority of the national strategic reserve was purchasing anti-terrorism anthrax vaccine that was produced by Emergent. That left other covid related stockpiles low at the critical beginning of the pandemic. The government paid Emergent $626 million for the vaccines. That was close to half the budget for getting emergency stock piles . This was apparently due to Emergent telling the emperor's regime in 2016 that it needed more government $$$ to stay in business. So the government purchases $100 million more vaccine even though the reserve already had enough to vaccinate more than 10 million people. The anthrax vaccine has a shelf life of a couple of years . So most of the purchase over the last decade was trashed.
Keep in mind that the threat of anthrax attack so far has cost 5 American lives 20 years ago .
President Harris/Biden just doing a hunky-dory job with immigration. Setting records!!
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CBP projects 184,000 migrant children will cross border in fiscal year 2021. It would be the highest number of unaccompanied children on record.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cbp...border-fy-2021
Have you seen that they took over the San Diego Convention Center and are putting up hundreds of these children ? 82 of them already arrived at the Convention Center with covid . And they are being taught in person by teachers at the cost of $6,500 per child per day . San Diego teachers were given a choice .They could continue to teach their San Diego students virtually OR they could do in person teaching of the illegals at the Convention Center .
From https://news.yahoo.com/san-diego-tea...133759170.html
The educational program will include English language development and social-emotional learning opportunities,” the statement adds. “The teachers who are participating in the program are doing so voluntarily, and the program is following a COVID-19 screening protocol based on guidelines from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”
Yes . I already said they were given a choice .That doesn't explain the tax payer footing the bill ;and why should the illegals be given in person instruction when the children or San Diego are to be taught in Zoom school for at least another 2 weeks ;and even then the system will only be a modified in person teaching ?
Love the social distancing. There with 82 confirmed covid cases and more illegals arriving .
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03...7102291583.jpg
Have you ever taught English to children from a foreign country, especially if you don't speak their language? I have. With Zoom, it would be nearly impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Those children are here now. What would YOU do with them if you were in charge of the situation?
send them back . That is the only way to discourage this migration
Why not kill them? That would be an ever better way to discourage migration.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That is about as stupid as anything I've heard of. 6500 a day is like spending 2K for an oil change. Just ridiculous.Quote:
And they are being taught in person by teachers at the cost of $6,500 per child per day .
For liberal dem supporters of abortion, that should sound perfectly reasonable.Quote:
Why not kill them?
and this surge isn't an untenable humanitarian crisis ? Children are being killed crossing the Darien Gap .
Unaccompanied children crossing the Darién Gap | Forced Migration Review (fmreview.org)
Children are being thrown into the Rio Grande as a diversion by the cartels .
Baby rescued at US-Mexico border in Texas, officials say | The Sacramento Bee (sacbee.com)
Children are being abused ,raped ,forced to be drug mules .
Mexico drug gangs using more children as "mules" - CBS News
Families try crossing over and when they are denied ;they separate and send their children over the border with the promise to them they they will reunite later. because of the emperor's and SCOTUS positions on DACA
Some migrants now sending their kids across the border alone so the kids won't be expelled, say lawyers (nbcnews.com)
The tragedy is to continue to allow this to happen.
They are being lied to being told that the promised land awaits them at the end of their journey . The inhumane encouragement should immediately end.
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Why not kill them? That would be an ever better way to discourage migration.
That's what you're doing by sending them south. If they survive the walk back, they'll most likely die in their home countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I don't know how quid would do it But the US flies the deported back .ICE Air: How US deportation flights work - CNNQuote:
If they survive the walk back,
The only people who are eligible for refugee status is Venezuelans. All the others claim or are attempting to be escaping poverty and that is not a criteria for refugee status.
I thought Central America especially is rife with gang violence.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Build...a...wall.
Mr. Master Builder and Businessman couldn't get it done in four years ....Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Economic migrants are not eligible for refugee status by our laws ;and that is what the vast majority of the asylum seekers are really applying for . They in fact expose themselves to gang and cartel violence the closer they come to our border.Quote:
I thought Central America especially is rife with gang violence.
They have to prove they are the victim of past persecution or have a well founded fear of future persecution. In the case of past persecution, They must prove that they were persecuted in their home country. The persecution must have been based on grounds of race, religion ,nationality ,political opinion, or membership in a particular social group.
Complete...the...wall.
Forget the wall, they are poor, pay them to go home, quicker and cheaper. it doesn't take an economic genius to figure that out, or maybe it doesQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
and counter intuitive . You need disincentives from coming here .Rewarding them for the effort does not accomplish that .Quote:
pay them to go home, quicker and cheaper.
Quid created this crisis when he opened the border and invited them . When asked why they came now in interviews ,the illegals make it clear that they are here because Quid gave the green light to them .
Biden immigration policies cause a predictable border crisis. Why didn't he plan for it? (nbcnews.com)
This was a black swan event for Quid . This surge should've been an obvious consequence of his rhetoric to him and his policy advisors . (and no AOC ;surge does not mean we are accusing them of being inSURGEnts )
When Quid realized his error ,he modified his rhetoric slightly and said basically ..... come ..... but just not now ..
Incoming Biden administration to migrant caravan: Don't come, you won't get in immediately (nbcnews.com)
The administration is not serious about the problem. Quid appointed VP Harris to be the point person . She gives a stupid sounding laugh and chuckle when asked when and if she plans on even visiting the border . A week later we are still wondering what the plan is besides appropriating convention centers in the heart of down town San Diego ;where covid infested teen illegals(around 10% infected ) are given free in person education ;after the teacher's unions who represent those " volunteer" teachers (who by contract are still getting paid by the taxpayers of the city ) balked for months at opening up the city schools for in person instruction .They argued that teaching California students ,that have about a 0.002% rate of infection ,was too risky.
Go ask Mexican American parents of students in San Diego if they are happy with this as they stayed home from work because their children were at home getting fake Zoom education .
There is a large gathering of illegals at the San Ysido crossing in Tijuana into San Diego . The tent city is growing daily . Expect another surge any day now
I thought there was a wall at San Diego
There is . The San Ysido crossing is the busiest crossing point in the country . More than 10 million people cross back and forth over 'la linea' annually, American tourists go into Tijuana . Legal workers routinely cross it . Tons of commerce go through it . We do have a major trade treaty with Mexico , When sufficient numbers of illegals bum rush the check point will the government have the will to stop them ? Again ;the issue is that Quid sent out the signal that all are welcome.
The camp was established after the Biden administration announced on Feb. 12 that asylum-seekers waiting in Mexico for court dates could be released in the United States while their cases wind through the system.
Amid border surge, confusion reigns over Biden policies (apnews.com)
That makes no sense. They will take the money and then come back to get another payment. Build the wall.Quote:
they are poor, pay them to go home
On Friday Texas Department of Health and Human Services told ABC News that from March 1 to March 30, there has been a total of 647 COVID-19 cases in 40 out of 50 Texas HHSC Office of Refugee Resettlement operations. These are self-reported positive COVID-19 cases in migrant children in care.
Bus carrying unaccompanied migrant girls arrives at Houston shelter (msn.com)
So what Tom? We have treatments and vaccines for the sick.
Why should we take in illegal covid infected people ? When someone tried to enter the US LEGALLY there were screening and processing placed like Ellis Island . Those who had infectious diseases were deported .
You can't be serious . The city of San Diego is still in partial lock down over an infection rate that is miniscule compared to the 9-10% infection rate they are allowing in to the convention center . AND the taxpayer has to foot the bill and pay for the in person education for these illegals that is being denied to their own children ?
Many refugees are children and teens. What will you do with them? Make them face south, give them a little push, and say, "Go home"?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
sounds like a plan
something like that .Quote:
Many refugees are children and teens. What will you do with them? Make them face south, give them a little push, and say, "Go home"?
Why do liberals always want to act noble because they can ask what someone else is going to do about a problem?Quote:
What will you do with them?
of course there have to be rules, like no seconds, and but it was found a successful way of getting refugees to go home here, If poverty is the problem, solve it. The other factors you may not be able to do much about but it is a start. You want a wall but there isn't much support for it now and it is expensive and divisive. Look the War on Drugs is part of this problem, legalise drugs and solve the problem, destroy the market, control the market, for capitalists you don't understand business muchQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
In other words, you have no clue what YOU would do if it were up to you. And you don't even want to think about it. After all, there's nothing in the Bible about us helping foreigners and refugees!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
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