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  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:40 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    No wonder you don’t want your beliefs examined. If I believed that foolishness I wouldn’t answer questions either.

    Ah, now I know! Avoid, avoid, avoid.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 04:47 PM
    jlisenbe
    You finally assess yourself accurately. Congratulations.

    What strange beliefs you have. A democrat gov is allowed to get away with virtually anything while you lose your mind about a conservative. Very sad. Perhaps it is best that you continue to demure.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 05:01 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You finally assess yourself accurately. Congratulations.

    How you twist people's words. No wonder we get weary of these exchanges with you.
    Quote:

    What strange beliefs you have. A democrat gov is allowed to get away with virtually anything while you lose your mind about a conservative. Very sad. Perhaps it is best that you continue to demure.
    Some night when you can't sleep, call me and I'll tell you stories about ... never mind. Where did that conservative end up? How many others of his ilk are there? Does being conservative affect his ability to make Court decisions?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 05:05 PM
    jlisenbe
    It's alright WG. You don't like to answer questions, so you reply with more questions. I understand. Don't worry about it.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:07 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It's alright WG. You don't like to answer questions, so you reply with more questions. I understand. Don't worry about it.

    No, you don't understand at all. Your questions are loaded. By asking questions in response, I'm attempting to make you clarify and simplify. You refuse and hope I'll tumble down the rabbit hole.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    Nah. Just slick evasiveness.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nah. Just slick evasiveness.

    Yep, that's you!
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:29 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Nah. Just slick evasiveness.

    Yes that is what you do all the time
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:39 PM
    jlisenbe
    See WG? Even clete sees it.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 06:54 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes that is what you do all the time

    Who is "you"? :-D
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:11 PM
    jlisenbe
    There’s only one who fits and it’s not me. Or perhaps two if we include Aussie land?
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:13 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    There’s only one who fits and it’s not me. Or perhaps two if we include Aussie land?

    Um, he was talking to you.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:15 PM
    jlisenbe
    About you. No one else fits the description.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/images...post-right.png
    Nah. Just slick evasiveness.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Yes that is what you do all the time

    Had 'clete meant me, he would have said "she" instead of "you".
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:18 PM
    jlisenbe
    Unless the reply was to you.

    Questions. Questions.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:18 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Unless the reply was to you.

    It was to you.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:19 PM
    jlisenbe
    Questions.
  • Mar 22, 2021, 07:56 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Who is "you"? :-D

    JL who else, by the way Jl, I don't spend my time deflecting
  • Mar 22, 2021, 08:10 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    JL who else, by the way Jl, I don't spend my time deflecting

    WG -1, JL - Zero.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 03:31 AM
    jlisenbe
    Unanswered questions. WG -101, JL - Zero.

    The present unanswered question. Why are you silent with liberal dem Cuomo's many sexual assault allegations when you were so vocal about conservative Kavanaugh's allegation? For that matter, why are you silent about liberal dem Biden's sexaul assault allegation, an allegation far more believable than the one against Kavanaugh? Is there a pattern there?

    Quote:

    by the way Jl, I don't spend my time deflecting
    No. You just spend your time talking about issues you know very little about.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 10:29 AM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why are you silent with liberal dem Cuomo's many sexual assault allegations when you were so vocal about conservative Kavanaugh's allegation? For that matter, why are you silent about liberal dem Biden's sexaul assault allegation, an allegation far more believable than the one against Kavanaugh? Is there a pattern there?

    Why are you so silent about the dozen and more sexual harassment, sexual assault, and rape allegations of Trump? Far more credible than either Kavanaugh or Cuomo. Is there a pattern there?

    Quote:

    No. You just spend your time talking about issues you know very little about.
    Wow - Mr. Nasty raises his nasty head.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 11:54 AM
    jlisenbe
    For a guy who is supposedly ignoring me, you sure are seeking a lot of feedback. You even commented about my comment to Clete. Troll alert??
    Quote:

    Why are you so silent about the dozen and more sexual harassment, sexual assault, and rape allegations of Trump? Far more credible than either Kavanaugh or Cuomo. Is there a pattern there?
    I haven't been quiet. I say the same thing about those as for any others. They should be investigated and, if warranted, prosecuted. The same is true for Biden and Cuomo. They are not guilty because a charge has been made, but the women deserve justice.

    Do you agree with that for all three men? (Notice to everyone reading this. I doubt Athos will directly answer this question. He and WG generally don't.)
  • Mar 23, 2021, 12:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Do you agree with that for all three men? (Notice to everyone reading this. I doubt Athos will directly answer this question. He and WG generally don't.)

    Of course, there should be investigations done. That will include why these women waited so long, waited until the men were becoming important public/political figures.

    Please stop with the putdowns. They're a form of abuse.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 01:17 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Please stop with the putdowns. They're a form of abuse.
    Are you saying that to Athos as well?

    I am glad to see you call for investigations into both Biden and Cuomo even if I had to be the one to bring them up. And that is sincerely spoken.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 01:24 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Are you saying that to Athos as well?

    You constantly and consistently put down anyone you disagree with. I haven't read putdowns in Athos' responses to you or anyone else. Please list three.
    Quote:

    I am glad to see you call for investigations into both Biden and Cuomo even if I had to be the one to bring them up. And that is sincerely spoken.
    ...AND investigations into why the women waited (for years!) until now.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 01:43 PM
    jlisenbe
    You constantly and consistently put down anyone you disagree with. I haven't read putdowns in Athos' responses to you or anyone else. Please list three.

    1. "Wow - Mr. Nasty raises his nasty head." Spoken of me.
    2. "We've all taken the measure of you here, and know you have a deceitful nature."
    3. " I understand you thrive on getting replies like any troll, but this is really getting ridiculous." (He has called me a troll on a number of occasions. I am not a troll.)

    Should I go on??? Now I'll ask you to list three putdowns from me. Make sure they are not simply observations of truth such as the demonstrable fact that you don't like to answer questions.

    Quote:

    ...AND investigations into why the women waited (for years!) until now.
    Did you call for that with Kavanaugh???
  • Mar 23, 2021, 02:17 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Now I'll ask you to list three putdowns [of Athos] from me. Make sure they are not simply observations of truth such as the demonstrable fact that you don't like to answer questions.

    From the thread, Trump demands money from Republicans --

    * I can hardly wait. Maybe your honesty has improved since then.
    * 1. You are, for whatever reason, afraid to address specific texts (unarguable).
    * ...your idea, a proposition that would get you laughed out of many sixth grade classrooms
    * You are, for whatever reason, afraid to address specific texts.
    * I imagine everyone here but you gets it
    * It's because your non-replies are due to your fear.
    * Your memory is failing for sure.
    * Have you no imagination?
    * it only works when you actually are...right.
    * Once again, you are afraid (or unable?) to answer.
    * Is your memory always this bad???
    * You have really become predictable.
    * I have called you no names and have not insulted you.
    * I just don't pay attention to your view of it.
    * It is just amazing to me to see how fearful you are of even the most simple discussion of a Bible text. You always drop back into drama queen mode. At any rate, since you are afraid....
    * Oh stop with the drama queen routine. Try thinking a little bit.
    * Not relying on charity gets people like you off the hook.
    * Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
    * Now there actually is some Bible support for that, but you seem not to know it.
    * Interesting how he employs the Bible when it's convenient.
    * And given your checkered history of answering questions, I doubt an answer will be forthcoming.
    Quote:

    Did you call for that with Kavanaugh???
    Yup!
  • Mar 23, 2021, 02:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Did you call for that with Kavanaugh???


    Yup!
    I don't recall that, but if you say so, then fine.


    As to your quotes, which of them were untrue? These last six, for instance. Which were insults as opposed to being observations of fact?

    Oh stop with the drama queen routine. Try thinking a little bit.
    What prompted that reply??
    Not relying on charity gets people like you off the hook.
    Accurate statement
    Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
    Was another accurate statement
    Now there actually is some Bible support for that, but you seem not to know it.
    How is that insulting?
    Interesting how he employs the Bible when it's convenient.
    Was absolutely accurate.
    And given your checkered history of answering questions, I doubt an answer will be forthcoming.
    Another accurate observation.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 02:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    As to your quotes, which of them were untrue? These last six, for instance. Which were insults as opposed to being observations of fact?

    All listed were in ONE thread and were totally unnecessary. Far better would have been an intelligent comment supporting or refuting the topic(s) being discussed.
  • Mar 23, 2021, 02:41 PM
    jlisenbe
    The drama queen remark was said in response to this. "Thank you for posting this. It is good for all to see that your defense of the Bible is second to your love of Mammon. Like the Pharisees, you challenge the words of Jesus. You spin his words to mean something never intended. That is your nasty habit of twisting words rising again."

    Would you say that was, " totally unnecessary. Far better would have been an intelligent comment supporting or refuting the topic(s) being discussed."

    This statement by you was really strange. Do you still stand by it? " I haven't read putdowns in Athos' responses to you or anyone else." Well, you've seen them now, so are you prepared to tell Athos to, "stop with the putdowns. They're a form of abuse?"

    And then there is this from five minutes ago posted directly below your post. "Lol - he is amazing, N'est-ce Pa?" And you really want to say you haven't read putdowns from Athos???
  • Mar 23, 2021, 02:56 PM
    Athos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    From the thread, Trump demands money from Republicans --

    * I can hardly wait. Maybe your honesty has improved since then.
    * 1. You are, for whatever reason, afraid to address specific texts (unarguable).
    * ...your idea, a proposition that would get you laughed out of many sixth grade classrooms
    * You are, for whatever reason, afraid to address specific texts.
    * I imagine everyone here but you gets it
    * It's because your non-replies are due to your fear.
    * Your memory is failing for sure.
    * Have you no imagination?
    * it only works when you actually are...right.
    * Once again, you are afraid (or unable?) to answer.
    * Is your memory always this bad???
    * You have really become predictable.
    * I have called you no names and have not insulted you.
    * I just don't pay attention to your view of it.
    * It is just amazing to me to see how fearful you are of even the most simple discussion of a Bible text. You always drop back into drama queen mode. At any rate, since you are afraid....
    * Oh stop with the drama queen routine. Try thinking a little bit.
    * Not relying on charity gets people like you off the hook.
    * Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about.
    * Now there actually is some Bible support for that, but you seem not to know it.
    * Interesting how he employs the Bible when it's convenient.
    * And given your checkered history of answering questions, I doubt an answer will be forthcoming.

    Yup!

    Lol - a good laugh is always welcome. Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment. He and the new guy make a good pair.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 04:41 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Lol - a good laugh is always welcome. Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment. He and the new guy make a good pair.
    WG has had to give up her position as the civility police. When she considers you and says she's never noticed a putdown from you, then that is the ultimate good laugh. One has to look no farther than this. "Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment." So it's over. It's like someone trying to say they've never noticed Cuomo making a sexual remark to a woman.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 09:18 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    WG has had to give up her position as the civility police. When she considers you and says she's never noticed a putdown from you, then that is the ultimate good laugh. One has to look no farther than this. "Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment." So it's over.

    That's no putdown. Athos is speaking the truth.
    Quote:

    It's like someone trying to say they've never noticed Cuomo making a sexual remark to a woman.
    Have you made a sexual remark to a woman? Find me a man who hasn't. That's what men do. It's like male peacocks flashing their brightly colored plumage to attract a peahen.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 10:05 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    That's no putdown. Athos is speaking the truth.
    Sorry, but you are out of your position. There are questions you should answer and won't, so until then, you're just one of us rude people.

    Quote:

    Have you made a sexual remark to a woman? Find me a man who hasn't. That's what men do. It's like male peacocks flashing their brightly colored plumage to attract a peahen.
    It's surprising to find out that you approve of men making sexual comments to women, but at least it's a moment of honesty.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 10:32 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It's surprising to find out that you approve of men making sexual comments to women, but at least it's a moment of honesty.

    Where did I say I approve? I said, "That's what men do." It's called a statement of fact.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 10:36 AM
    jlisenbe
    OK. Well then, you disapprove, so it's hard to imagine why you even made the statement to begin with, and why you would compare it to, "...male peacocks flashing their brightly colored plumage to attract a peahen." So male peacocks are wrong to do that? You seem very confused. And remember that seeming putdowns are OK so long as you think they are true.

    One more thing. Athos stated, "Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment." You replied, "That's no putdown. Athos is speaking the truth." How could you possibly know that I was "steaming", or that I was projecting my, "anger onto whomever was available"? You weren't here, so how could you possibly know that was true? Isn't it really more of a situation where if Athos does it, then it's OK, kind of like Biden putting kids into cages is suddenly not worth you commenting on the way you did with Trump?

    Which of the many comments of mine you posted above were not true? If they are true (and they are), then why did you say they were putdowns? Is the ole double standard rearing its head again?
  • Mar 24, 2021, 10:51 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    OK. Well then, you disapprove,

    Now you say I disapprove? Please tell me how you know this.
    Quote:

    So male peacocks are wrong to do that? You seem very confused. And remember that seeming putdowns are OK so long as you think they are true.
    It wasn't a putdown and I'm not confused; it was a statement of fact. (Hint: biology)
    Quote:

    How could you possibly know that I was "steaming", or that I was projecting my, "anger onto whomever was available"?
    I saw steam wafting out of the back of my Kindle and figured it was from you.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 10:56 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    I saw steam wafting out of the back of my Kindle and figured it was from you.
    The usual nonsense, and that's not a putdown since it's true. You never want to have your beliefs examined. Fearful, I guess. And again, that certainly seems true.

    Quote:

    Now you say I disapprove? Please tell me how you know this.
    OK. Then you made the statement to give us all the stunning news that men are physically attracted to women. Or perhaps it was a completely meaningless comment? At any rate, just forget it. It's not that important. It never was.
  • Mar 24, 2021, 11:02 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    The usual nonsense, and that's not a putdown since it's true.

    Yeah, I figured Mississippi was where the steam was coming from
    Quote:

    You never want to have your beliefs examined. Fearful, I guess. And again, that certainly seems true.
    You've never honestly asked me.
    Quote:

    OK. Then you made the statement to give us all the stunning news that men are physically attracted to women. Or perhaps it was a completely meaningless comment?
    Trump is. Cuomo is. Kavanaugh is. You're not?
  • Mar 24, 2021, 11:21 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    You've never honestly asked me.
    Sure I have. I just did.

    Quote:

    One more thing. Athos stated, "Our friend is steaming by now. He projects his anger onto whomever is available at the moment." You replied, "That's no putdown. Athos is speaking the truth." How could you possibly know that I was "steaming", or that I was projecting my, "anger onto whomever was available"? You weren't here, so how could you possibly know that was true? Isn't it really more of a situation where if Athos does it, then it's OK, kind of like Biden putting kids into cages is suddenly not worth you commenting on the way you did with Trump?

    Which of the many comments of mine you posted above were not true? If they are true (and they are), then why did you say they were putdowns? Is the ole double standard rearing its head again?
    The only "answer" is just silly nonsense about steam coming out of your computer. Ridiculous. And then you just certainly seemed to lie and say I've never asked. What is it with you?

    And that's not to mention an unanswered PM.

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    Trump is. Cuomo is. Kavanaugh is. You're not?
    Are you?

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