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  • Dec 9, 2020, 08:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Fraid not, and not even when you count post 1 to post 159. The point is voting to raise your own taxes. You have not given any specifics on that.

    You're not paying attention again.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 05:04 AM
    talaniman
    You can spin it however you please but the factual case of the matter is your way of thinking is continually out voted. Of course that won't stop the protestations that have gone on since the New Deal by some. You are but the latest iteration of that sentiment.

    As long as you are outvoted then our opinions, arguments and actual legislation is more than just hot air. Additionally if you are so fascinated by my interest of where your head is stuck at, then you must also accept how specific that my observation is limited to you and your dufus cult leader.

    You are unique in that way as far as this forum is concerned.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 05:42 AM
    jlisenbe
    Yeah. It's just hot air. "I care so much for the poor that I'm willing to make some other guy help them." It's the motto of the liberal dems and describes a cheap form of charity that puts the burden on someone else and yet leaves you thinking you have somehow become more noble and holier than the other guy. It's like making someone else go fight a war for you, and then deciding to walk about crowing about how brave and courageous you are.

    If you care about poor people, you'll get off your axx and go help them. If you ever do, I can assure you that you'll learn a few things. If you want the feds to help them, then vote for someone who promises to raise YOUR taxes. If you ever do any of that, then you can begin to remove the "hot air" label from your forehead.

    Quote:

    You are unique in that way
    Nah. No one has any interest in it but you. It's your secret fantasy.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:43 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Yeah. It's just hot air. "I care so much for the poor that I'm willing to make some other guy help them." It's the motto of the liberal dems and describes a cheap form of charity that puts the burden on someone else and yet leaves you thinking you have somehow become more noble and holier than the other guy. It's like making someone else go fight a war for you, and then deciding to walk about crowing about how brave and courageous you are.

    If you care about poor people, you'll get off your axx and go help them. If you ever do, I can assure you that you'll learn a few things. If you want the feds to help them, then vote for someone who promises to raise YOUR taxes. If you ever do any of that, then you can begin to remove the "hot air" label from your forehead.

    Nah. No one has any interest in it but you. It's your secret fantasy.

    Nice spin in your own twisted words that have twisted the words of others with enough loony logic to evidence your maroonacy. I real don't care where you stick your head and I almost feel for the a$$ it's stuck in if not for the fact the dufus is such a big a$$hole to begin with. Just sharing an observation, and offering help with that, but if you like it I don't really care.

    Maybe you can follow his a$$ out the door.
  • Dec 10, 2020, 02:57 PM
    jlisenbe
    Hmm. It all makes me wonder about you and what you've been doing, but that's your business. This strange, sick obsession is weird beyond description. I'm going to abandon that discussion. Too, too weird.
  • Dec 12, 2020, 05:21 AM
    paraclete
    cut and run as you always do
  • Dec 12, 2020, 05:52 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    cut and run as you always do
    The return of Mr. Cheerful.
  • Dec 12, 2020, 03:30 PM
    paraclete
    Yes I'm never far away but there is so little going on here, nothing new at all
  • Dec 12, 2020, 03:36 PM
    jlisenbe
    It has been pretty quiet. We can agree on that for sure.
  • Dec 12, 2020, 09:52 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    It has been pretty quiet. We can agree on that for sure.

    Yes quiet in your neck of the woods but not in ours
  • Dec 13, 2020, 04:38 AM
    talaniman
    We are sort of celebrating the end of the dufus era with the upcoming marriage of capitalism, socialism, and hopefully the birth of common sense ism with the handling of the virus.

    Resistance may be futile!
  • Dec 13, 2020, 05:16 AM
    paraclete
    Resistance is certainly futile but only if you are being assimilated by the Borg
  • Dec 13, 2020, 02:03 PM
    talaniman
    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...=f&x=710&y=575

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f

    https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/...60&u=t&o=f&l=f

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Resistance is certainly futile but only if you are being assimilated by the Borg

    Or the dufus!
  • Dec 13, 2020, 02:58 PM
    jlisenbe
    TDS, pure and simple. Extreme case, in fact. I'm really worried about what you'll do when Trump is out and you have no one to hate.
  • Dec 13, 2020, 03:02 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I'm really worried about what you'll do when Trump is out and you have no one to hate.

    Love fests, 24/7/365!!!
  • Dec 13, 2020, 03:05 PM
    jlisenbe
    In the meantime, Hunter Biden has steadfastly refused to cooperate any at all with a Senate investigation of his business ties. That contrasts with the cooperation exercised by Trump's children. I'm sure the liberal dems on this site who were unceasingly critical of Trump's kids will be aghast at HB's refusal.

    There is also now seems to be no doubt that JB lied when he told the American people that he had no knowledge of HB's business ties. Prepare yourselves for a backlash from the anti-lying crowd on this board. It is surely coming!!
  • Dec 13, 2020, 05:24 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    In the meantime, Hunter Biden has steadfastly refused to cooperate any at all with a Senate investigation of his business ties. That contrasts with the cooperation exercised by Trump's children. I'm sure the liberal dems on this site who were unceasingly critical of Trump's kids will be aghast at HB's refusal.

    There is also now seems to be no doubt that JB lied when he told the American people that he had no knowledge of HB's business ties. Prepare yourselves for a backlash from the anti-lying crowd on this board. It is surely coming!!

    Right wing loony spin and noise. Go FACKchek yourself.
  • Dec 13, 2020, 05:30 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    That contrasts with the cooperation exercised by Trump's children.

    *cough* *gag* What about all those Chinese trademarks and trade deals Ivanka lassoed in?
  • Dec 13, 2020, 05:55 PM
    paraclete
    https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.zuOf_N...pr=1.5&pid=1.7
  • Dec 13, 2020, 06:54 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Right wing loony spin and noise. Go FACKchek yourself.
    That is usually proof positive that you know my info is correct.

    Quote:

    *cough* *gag* What about all those Chinese trademarks and trade deals Ivanka lassoed in?
    What about them? Is doing business a crime now?
  • Dec 13, 2020, 07:08 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    What about them? Is doing business a crime now?

    Yes! When you're working as the U.S. president or, like Ivanka, serving as his senior advisor, it is unethical and even illegal (???) to gain financially because of your position.
  • Dec 13, 2020, 08:50 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Yes! When you're working as the U.S. president or, like Ivanka, serving as his senior advisor, it is unethical and even illegal (???) to gain financially because of your position.
    There is no law against the children of a sitting president doing business and making profits. If they used their president father to sway business in their direction, then you might have a point, but acting on their own is certainly allowable. Besides, they were investigated to the point of lunacy and charged with nothing. Let's see how HB does.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 02:32 AM
    talaniman
    Biden's kid is being investigated again...and so is the dufus and his business practices...AGAIN...and that includes the dufus's kids. Interesting the dufus and his kids are innocent, and the Biden's not, even with the dufus having been already subject to consequences of his bad business practices in the past.

    I got no problem with such investigations. As politically motivated as they may seem to be. Nothing new there.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 05:47 AM
    jlisenbe
    Who is investigating Trump and his business practices including his kids?
  • Dec 14, 2020, 08:06 AM
    talaniman
    New York authorities investigating millions in tax write-offs from the Trump Organization - CNNPolitics

    New York attorney general investigating Trump over financial statements | TheHill

    NY District Attorney Reveals Potential Trump Criminal Investigation (bipartisanreport.com)
  • Dec 14, 2020, 08:13 AM
    jlisenbe
    Well, let's agree together that the guilty should be brought to justice, be it a Trump or a Biden. Agreed?
  • Dec 14, 2020, 01:59 PM
    jlisenbe
    Here's some of your "fact checking" at work. Who turned out to be right?

    "President Donald Trump has suggested multiple times that a coronavirus vaccine could come within months, an accelerated timeline that prominent health experts and veteran vaccine developers say is unlikely absent a miracle."We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can, maybe before," Trump said Friday during in a Rose Garden event centered on his administration's efforts to fast-track a vaccine.

    “Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year,” Trump tweeted on Thursday."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...perts-n1207411
  • Dec 14, 2020, 04:03 PM
    talaniman
    Okay, but why was he also telling us the virus would disappear on it's own, and it wouldn't come back in the fall?

    trump say virus will go away - - Video Search Results (yahoo.com)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, let's agree together that the guilty should be brought to justice, be it a Trump or a Biden. Agreed?

    Of course.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 04:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    Trump has no monopoly on foolish remarks.

    1. 1. “If my opponent wins, they’re going to put y’all back in chains.” – Joe Biden during the 2012 campaign cycle referring to liberal darling and never-Trump ally, Mitt Romney
    2. 2. “Unless we do something about this, my children are going to grow up in a Jungle…a racial jungle” – Joe Biden on desegregating schools in 1977
    3. 3. If you’re having trouble figuring out if you’re for me or you’re for Trump then you aint black.” – Joe Biden in a May 2020 video interview with Charlamagne tha God
    4. 4. “Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.” – Joe Biden in 2019 to the Asian and Latino Coalition
    5. 5. “You cannot go to a 7-eleven or a Dunkin Donuts without a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking.” – Joe Biden in 2006 while bragging about how great he is with the Indian American community
    6. 6. “I do not buy the concept, popular in the 60s, which said, ‘We have suppressed the black man for 300 years.’” – Joe Biden again on integrating schools which he opposed vehemently in the LATE 70s.
    7. 7. “We [Delawareans] were on the South’s side of the Civil War.” – Joe Biden in 1987 in Alabama
    8. 8. “I mean you got the first mainstream African American who is articulate, bright and clean.” – Joe Biden on Barack Obama in 2008

    Don't you think it was really nice for JB to declare Barack Obama to be a "clean" African American? Is that what the liberal dems love, a good, "clean" African American?

    https://www.freepressfail.com/2020/0...iden-has-said/
  • Dec 14, 2020, 05:40 PM
    talaniman
    Everybody even Joe knows he ain't perfect, but it's official now, the Electoral College has just made Biden the president elect and the process moves forward to the congress.

    Electoral College Makes Joe Biden’s Presidential Win Official (msn.com)
  • Dec 14, 2020, 05:54 PM
    jlisenbe
    Funny how you can excuse Biden as just “ain’t perfect”, but there always has to be a sinister motive with Trump. Bias, you think?
  • Dec 14, 2020, 05:57 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    there always has to be a sinister motive with Trump. Bias, you think?

    No bias. Listen to his words! Read his tweets!
  • Dec 14, 2020, 06:07 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Funny how you can excuse Biden as just “ain’t perfect”, but there always has to be a sinister motive with Trump. Bias, you think?

    The dufus is a lying, cheating stealing bigmouth bully of near criminal proportions. Always has been, always will be. That's not bias, that's just reality without spin, or denial of the obvious. You may disagree and that's fine but that's my opinion.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 06:09 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The dufus is a lying, cheating stealing bigmouth bully of near criminal proportions. Always has been, always will be. That's not bias, that's just reality without spin, or denial of the obvious. You may disagree and that's fine but that's my opinion.


    Don't shout criminal too soon, it is all business
  • Dec 14, 2020, 06:37 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Don't shout criminal too soon, it is all business

    I've called him a criminal since he announced his presidency so what's changed?
  • Dec 14, 2020, 07:39 PM
    paraclete
    What has changed? where have you been? laying in a covid stupor? Trump is gone, it's what you wanted
  • Dec 14, 2020, 08:33 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    The dufus is a lying, cheating stealing bigmouth bully of near criminal proportions. Always has been, always will be. That's not bias, that's just reality without spin, or denial of the obvious. You may disagree and that's fine but that's my opinion.
    But Biden simply "ain't perfect"??? Yep. No political bias going on here, I'm sure.

    Quote:

    No bias. Listen to his words! Read his tweets!
    So you are one of those who applaud the existence of a nice, "clean", African American??? Yeah. Couldn't be any political bias going on here, either.
  • Dec 14, 2020, 08:52 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Couldn't be any political bias going on here, either.

    Nothing political. If my husband acted like Trump does and talked like he does, I'd file for divorce -- or, more likely, would never would have married him in the first place. The man (Trump) is a mental/physical/emotional/psychological disaster!
  • Dec 14, 2020, 11:06 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Couldn't be any political bias going on here, either.
    actually political bias is the wrong term, partisanship is what is happening here. We have assembled a company of partisans

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ca...11_2020_5_.jpg
  • Dec 15, 2020, 05:41 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    Nothing political. If my husband acted like Trump does and talked like he does, I'd file for divorce -- or, more likely, would never would have married him in the first place. The man (Trump) is a mental/physical/emotional/psychological disaster!
    Eight women have accused Biden of improper sexual behavior, and his racist comments are legend, but you'd evidently be happy to be married to him. So let's see. Do we see any evidence of political bias here?

    I understand that people voted for Biden because he is pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, will borrow and spend faster than a speeding bullet, and will risk destroying the economy to implement the GND, but to pretend you voted for him because he is, after all, a great guy is just ridiculous. He is every bit as scummy as Trump is, and if you don't see that, then you are completely self-deceived and possessed of a political vision dominated by a hatred of Trump. The real difference is that Trump actually has some competence. Biden is a boob.

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