as you like it, you won't get an argument out of me on that score
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as you like it, you won't get an argument out of me on that score
JL either, he has me blocked, but I'm a hard guy to ignore.
Ten days from yesterday. It's hard to imagine how he has a leg to stand on in this deal. Happy for Flynn.Quote:
a DC Circus 3 judge panel ordered Sullivan to explain himself . Be prepared in a couple of weeks for the panel to smack Sullivan down hard.
You must admit pleading guilty twice doesn't help him. We will see if the reasons the case was dropped does.
So now Biden gets to decide who is black and who's not? Hmmm. Imagine the uproar if Trump had said such a remark. As it is, Biden will get his usual free pass.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1263809957515988997
He doesn't need a free pass for a 5 second snippet of a much larger conversation.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...breakfast-club
I rest my case.
He plead after being illegally coerced into a confession . If Judge Sullivan is lucky he will be spared the indignity of being kicked off the case .
What case? Seems no big deal for the interviewer, so why is it a big deal to you? If the dufus had said it maybe it would be a big deal, maybe it wouldn't. Not like the dufus doesn't get free passes for his words, behavior and antics too, from his supporters, so what case are you trying to make?
I think he thought he was going to get a smack on the hand with his plea deal. jails are full of people claiming they were coerced into a confession. Didn't you once tell me that innocent people go to trial, not cop to something they didn't do? Of course Flynn has powerful friends in high places which the average guy doesn't have.Quote:
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We can hope that he will quietly correct his foolish decision, but probably he will not.Quote:
If Judge Sullivan is lucky he will be spared the indignity of being kicked off the case.
Foolish indeed would be doing anything the dufus and his ilk wants without proper verification.
definitely not me . Plenty of innocent people get hosed by the justice system . A false statement made to investigators is actionable only if it is material to the matter under investigation. If there was no basis to believe Flynn had committed a crime, any false statements allegedly made by Flynn when he was questioned were immaterial. The reason I believe his confession was coerced is because Mueller threatened legal jeopardy on Flynns son. That's all it took for Flynn to take the fall for his son. Not that his son necessarily did anything wrong. But he was Flynn's chief of staff and in that capacity attended meetings with Flynn and foreign actors .He was also an employee of a private intelligence firm Flynn headed , which Mueller was scrutinizing over its alleged failure to register with the government as a foreign agent . As You know this is a dubious allegation that was rarely handled as a criminal offense before Mueller’s probe. Mueller used it selectively as leverage in his investigations and as was proven ,used arbitrarily and capriciously . Note the slap on the wrist the Podesta brothers were given .Quote:
Didn't you once tell me that innocent people go to trial, not cop to something they didn't do?
I disagree, of course but the belief in the dufus and his cohorts is a fascinating study in drinking the kool aid you know has a turd in it.
well when you have no hope you have to believe in something
Not a matter of hope, or belief here Clete, it's a simple matter whether this blatant display of corruption and cronyism built on lies and conspiracies will stand further scrutiny.
The chick from Faux News delivery Fake News from the WH! Great lead to this weekends humor rant!Quote:
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Judge Sullivan has now hired a lawyer to 'defend' him in the DC Circus. He's acting like he's the one on trial .
"Federal judge hires high-powered D.C. attorney to defend his actions in Flynn case.” is the headline in the Compost.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...35f_story.html
He hired swamp insider Beth Wilkinson . So now he can explain to the panel why he needs a high power defense attorney to explain to them why he needs a high power former judge to receive Amicus Briefs he requested when the DOJ dropped the case against Flynn (against a decision made by a unanimous SCOTUS ruling a week ago and against a previous precedent decision by the DC Circus).
To refresh the judges memory from law school; the Sixth Amendment says that “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right … to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.” Is he declaring himself a criminal ?
I'm sure the panel wants him to explain his actions in his own words . He can certainly argue that Flynn had already pled guilty . He can disagree with the DOJ decision to drop the case .But the law requires him to drop the case and neither he nor Wilkinson can change that .
The law does not require he drops the case, it does require he review and render a decision. Nice spin right though. No doubt the dufus is pacing the floor awaiting his campaign conspiracy theory around this latest move by Barr, oh wait he already has started Obamagate.Quote:
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The law does not require he drops the case,
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcrmp/rule_48
“the government may, with leave of court, dismiss an indictment, information, or complaint.”
The “leave of court” provision was meant “primarily to guard against the prospect that dismissal is part of a scheme of ‘prosecutorial harassment’ of the defendant through repeated prosecutions—a prospect not implicated by, as here, a motion to dismiss with prejudice "
“the principal object of the ‘leave of court’ requirement is apparently to protect a defendant against prosecutorial harassment, e.g., charging, dismissing, and recharging, when the government moves to dismiss an indictment over the defendant’s objection.”
It is not there so the judge can over rule the prosecution's decision to no longer prosecute the case . Sullivan has nothing . That is why he is hiring representation for his own defense .
The Obama FBI at work.
FBI documents unsealed Wednesday show that top bureau officials discussed their motivations for interviewing then-national security adviser Michael Flynn in the White House in January 2017 -- and openly questioned if their "goal" was "to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired."The handwritten notes -- written by the FBI's former head of counterintelligence Bill Priestap after a meeting with then-FBI Director James Comey and then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Fox News is told -- further suggested that agents planned in the alternative to get Flynn "to admit to breaking the Logan Act" when he spoke to then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the presidential transition period.
The Logan Act is an obscure statute that has never been used in a criminal prosecution; enacted in 1799 in an era before telephones, it was intended to prevent individuals from falsely claiming to represent the United States government abroad.
"What is our goal?" one of the notes read. "Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?"
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mic...-him-lie-fired
Oh well. I'm going to church this morning to worship the Lord with other Christians. It will be a little pocket of sanity in this corrupt environment we more and more live in, a light shining in an otherwise dark sky. Thank God for Jesus.
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Oh well. I'm going to church this morning to worship the Lord with other Christians. It will be a little pocket of sanity in this corrupt environment we more and more live in, a light shining in an otherwise dark sky. Thank God for Jesus.
Are we missing the obvious here? What if Flynn had just told the truth and been honest with Pence, and the FBI?
His honesty with Pence cost him his job. He was NOT dishonest with the FBI .
Andrew McCabe who was deputy director under Comey testified to Congress that the 2 agents who interviews Flynn did NOT think he was lying . We also know that the 302 submitted by the FBI of the Flynn interview was fabricated . The original written by agents Joe Pientka and Peter Srzok (you've heard of him ...... recall his hateful emails to Lisa Page about Trump).
FBI 302s, are supposed to be completed within five days of the interview. Usually, one agent is the main interrogator, another takes notes; one of the two is responsible for drafting the 302, which the two agents then finalize, making sure that between their memories and any notes taken,that the 302 accurately reflects the interviewee’s statements.
The Flynn 302 went through multiple drafts and were heavy edited . They were still being edited on Feb. 10, 17 days after the interview. And, we know from text messages, it was being edited by Lisa Page who was working forMcCabe and she was not present at the Flynn interview. She had no business editing what Flynn said. The 302 was not finalized until Feb. 15.
Pientka’s first draft, Strzok’s alterations of it, Page’s alterations of Strzok’s draft were never submitted to the judge . So any fair minded system would see that a miscarriage of justice was happening to Flynn . The most hardened criminal would be informed by the FBI that the interview being conducted was because he was the subject of an investigation . We have emails from the agents before the interview asking if their goal was to get him fired ,or to set up a perjury trap.
Has Beth Wilkinson retained counsel yet?
I don't know about Wilkerson, but even if Flynn gets off the damage is done to the administrations already fraying credibility. Get use to the crony ads from the dems as the election draws near, and the economy and the pandemic becomes the issue. The dufus will have more to worry about than just his buddies, if he doesn't take care of his electorate.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ju...?ocid=msedgntp
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The judge must evaluate Flynn’s dramatically different claims, Sullivan’s lawyer Beth Wilkinson told the court: “What, if anything, should Judge Sullivan do about Mr. Flynn’s sworn statements to the court, where he repeatedly admitted to the crime and to the voluntariness of his guilty plea, only to now claim that he never lied to the government and was pressured and misled into pleading guilty?”
https://www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-16000-pleas-federal-rule-criminal-procedure-11
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